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Since Thursday evening, Russia armed & belligerent crossed sovereign borders into Ukraine, it is getting air time & coverage on the news, radio & papers, but it doesn't seem as though people are really taking heed & life seems to be carrying on as normal.

This appears to my way of thinking as being somewhat foolish, the Brits, Americans & other NATO countries are supplying arms & weaponary to the Ukrainian forces, while others (in particular the western eu nations) are shoving thumbs up butts while humming & haaing, added to that the motheaten & somewhat befuddled "Bear" has the eus' energy plums nestled in its wopping great hairy paw with big claws ready to rip & tear.

Not a good place to be really! And when it's not grumpy Bear holding tight, "Pooh Bear" in the form of Xi & the yellow peril are out back eyeing the honeycomb of europe too, also with a ready paw. However did we let ourselves get into such a predicament?

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if the ruskies choose to nuke us, sod all i can do about that so i dont really give a stuff, the yanks say russia will put nuclear weapons on their armament agenda, can do sod all about that so no good bothering i say.

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It is a really big worry.
Putin banks on bully boy tactics and they have worked for so many years because he has been allowed to get away with it.
When a foreign power crosses borders with the kind of military vehicles that they are using…it is a blatant act of aggression.
The Ukrainians have been brave and have met the challenges with guts.
To see elderly ladies practicing with big guns says everything about what they think of Putin.
And an 80 year old man turning up at a recruiting centre wanting to register to fight put the politicians in a number of countries to shame.

All Russian Nationals should be deported, their assets confiscated…..sanctions are weedy and will worry Putin not one jot.
It is not him who will be disadvantaged…it will be the little people who suffer.
They need to rise up and crush this despot.
Will it happen?
I don’t know.
But if it does not then Estonia and some of the Nordic countries need to be a bit worried.

This has a strong feel of deja poo about it…….Same crap as 1939….that was a little Schaffler too.

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There are reports that peace talks will take place in Belarus…..why Belarus?
Belarus is a supporter of Russia and its president is a pal of Putin.
Might it just be a bit of window dressing to buy time for Russia to replace its depleted munitions ( by all accounts these are running low with very little opportunity for the munitions factories to make more….lack of raw materials ).
Will it be China that lends a hand ?

There has been a run on Russian banks and interest rates have soared to 20%…..the rouble is at an all time low and it is said that a thousand Russian troops have surrendered.

Who knows what this mad dictator will do next, but I fear that it will not be a peaceful solution.

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the russians are blaming truss for their nuke inclusion, just proves to me Putin aint all there,and i cant stand her,

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Cashy, whether you like Truss or not….she is not the reason that Putin is talking about using a nuclear option, there is more to it than that…not least that he is an unhinged megalomaniac who has never before been challenged.
That is the crux of it.
He is like a child who has never been told ‘NO’.

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i know well that PUTIN is a NUTCASE.

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The despot is desperately short of vitamin pb…..it needs to be given directly to the brain for it to cure the current situation

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send troops in under cover without corvid masks

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always wonder how popular putin is with the russian man or woman on the street. you could always add the russian forces into it. problem with countries like that is that we,ll never know until he eventually goes and when he does the MSM will slant it to their agenda as we know.

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Some support what he's doing, quite a few of them who are living here. That said there is also a groundswell in Russia itself as lot of the public weren't aware of what he was upto & now they know aren't best pleased but his thug police are crushing disent.


As to the military, lots of conscripts, young lads who don't want to be & are not inclined towards military life. Intense basic training as Infantry, point, shoot, stab, then a few days specialising as gunners & armour drivers, same principle, point & shoot but no indepth skills or knowledge, a half decent militia could break these youngsters.


Unfortunately the above are of no value to Putin & are simply the waves of destruction to take the brunt. Meanwhile while his "Hard core" professionals & fanatics are held back to roll over the resistance once its' used its firepower & limited munitions on the fodder.

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There are reports…admittedly in MSM that Putins popularity has surged in Russia.
However these polls are state sponsored so it is debatable as to how reliable they are.

There are videos of these young conscripts crying and saying that they thought they were just going on a training exercises….not killing innocent people.

By the day the situation is getting more worrying…..the deputy leader has said that if ww3 happens, then it will be nuclear….and suggested that a nuclear warhead my be detonated near Britain.
Where Near Britain?
And am I wrong in thinking that radiation can be blown on the wind…..dropped in the rain onto crops that may be eaten.
Radiation sickness is not a nice way to leave the planet.

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Not at all Ma, as was seen after Hiroshima & Nagasaki, the testing at Bikini Atoll & more recently at Chernobyl & to a lesser extent Fukashima. Radiation knows no boundaries or borders, if one place gets it, various others will too.

I don't even think it'll be near UK, if the lunatic in the Kremlin does do the nuclear thing, we'll be directly targeted. All those years during the "Cold War", we were constantly drilled on the actions to take should a nuclear strike hit, even doing the drills we'd all pretty much cease to function due to short term, long term exposure, it was more a matter of how long after the initial blast.

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im sure his popularity has NOT surged going off the 2 generals that were listening to him on tv the other day, but nobody dare say it.

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Cashy, I did say that this info was from Russian government statistics….so not really to be trusted.
The demonstrations on the streets tell a different story, although we are not really being given much information about these…which is of course the way that Russia operates.

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Makes you wonder where all the climate change fanatics are now. Might have missed it but the greenies seem quiet at the moment. Surely a visit from st.greta would put vlad in his place once and for all till we can all concentrate on real issues like the vegan dish of the day and wind from cattle being a new heat source.

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Yes, and there don’t seem to be any extinction rebellion lot do not seem to be queuing up to get on a plane for Kyiv to set up a protest there…..wonder how much carbon footprint is produced by cluster bombs and vacuum bombs.

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well not a shock, that lot are like PUTIN off their heads.theres different levels of stupidity, but they sure come under that category.

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Yes, all this getting down to Zero emissions seems to be a bit useless if we are all going to be nuked out of existence.

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Not at all, considering the eu have decreed that "Nuclear" can go on the green fuels list ...... so all is right & proper. :rolleyes:

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just read on bbc sports page CHINA is supporting UKRAINE, that will put PUTINS nose out of joint myself i think its cos the money china makes around the world,selling stuff but who cares.

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Aah….well now I see…….it all makes perfect sense.
If Russia applies the nuclear option we will not need to worry about zero emissions….or how we will pay the gas and electric……the bombs will see to that.

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As for China…I would not believe what they say.(I bet they had their fingers crossed)

It is alleged that China asked Russia to delay the invasion until the winter games finished.
Of course China says this is nonsense…..but then they would, wouldn’t they?

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well money is more important to em i reckon cos they sell loads of stuff to the u.k yanks, and common market etc,

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Yes….that is true….but how good is money when your backside is kissing the stars on the shrapnel of a nuclear warhead?

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The tiddles are hedging their bets, they were bankrolling Russia, but they've now turned the taps off for Putin. Mainly so they don't get tarred with the same brush & the world starts taking out sanctions on them.

That said though, they are one of the few countries still prepared to trade with Russia for their oil & gas since everyone else is snubbing Russia. Of course this then means China can get the deals they want on their terms because Russia will be desperate to raise the lost revenue.

Then when Russia collapses in on itself the Tiddlies will be romping to the fore to pick up the pieces & double their trade with these countries now looking for someone able to fill the trade void.

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The Saudis are also supporting Putin by trading with Russia….although how they are paying for goods when the Rouble is worth around one cent.
The rouble is lying in the rubble of the buildings that Putin swears he is NOT bombing.
Now I know that technology can be manipulated, but when you can watch the scenes play out in real time……how does that compute?

This is not going to end well, for anyone.

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the saudis are a complete waste of space, and our money people love em.

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That my friend has always been the case, in reality they are an obnoxious, self serving, unlikeable shower, but seeing as the Camel jockeys sit on the bulk of the worlds natural oil & gas reserves which the rest of the world relies on ........

The West in particular will hold their collective noses, pucker up & kiss their wrinkly camel riding hoops regardless how distasteful, because,

(A) we need those "Cheap" resources.

(B) They're rolling in cash from the sales & will happily purchase Western luxury goods & military hardware they & all their oil haven't the nouse to produce.

In fact, I personally would class reason "A" as one of the most valid arguments for getting away from fossil fuels as expediently as possible. To see the abdullahs wallowing in all that oil & have nothing to show for it as they revert back to their tribal brutalizing of one another while the rest of us look on in smugness.

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Sainsbury’s is the first supermarket to rebrand Chicken Kiev as Chicken Kyiv.
Well whoopi do!
Should we be impressed?
Well I am not.
I would be far more impressed if the supermarkets got together, filled containers with food and drinking water and warm clothes….and transported the stuff to the people of the Ukraine.
Now that would really be something worth clapping for?

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Will it happen?
Who knows?

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the song, Money Makes The World Go Around, should be their antham.

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Well, blow me down….Asda are sending a million pounds worth of goods to help displaced Ukrainian families….now let’s see if any other supermarket follows suit.
Do you think they read my post?

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Vlad the bad has warned the Uk that it needs to dust off it’s old Cold War articles and to prepare for a nuclear strike.
Why?
Because he says the instigation of sanctions is ALMOST a declaration of war.
Is that the same ALMOST a declaration of war that is the 40 mile convoy of military vehicles on Ukrainian soil.
Or is it the ALMOST declaration of war that saw non military targets being bombed….not just bombed, but illegally cluster bombed?
Or maybe it is the ALMOST of using illegal thermobaric bombs?
Or the ALMOST offering corridors for evacuation purposes and two hour cease fires, then firing on civilians?
Or is it the ALMOST of using inexperienced conscripted soldiers, telling them they are going on a training exercise then asking them to kill civilians?
Oh but wait…..Putin is not bombing The Ukraine……well, those are not meat pies that are destroying lives and buildings.
Someone in Russia needs to wake up and organise a revolution.
When authorities in ANY country stop the population from knowing the truth, speaking the truth….when authorities suppress information, shut down media sources then you know that there is something nasty going on.
War? What war?

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Most of Russia's Nuke's are on submarines and no one know where they are.

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Not directly to do with the war, but anyone noticed how the border farce has suddenly become active by sending back ukrainian refugees fleeing from a war zone. They should have got intouch with some of us overhear for info in getting into the country illegally. Throwing all forms of ID away for a start with brown die on their bodies being a must.

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Well, I'm confused, is this war a diversion so we don't notice the hike in utility bills or is the hike in utility bills a diversion to take our minds off the war?
Whichever it is I wish the greens would find something happier to occupy their time remaining with rather than wandering around chanting 'We're all DOOMED I tell ye, DOOMED'.
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Less…you might just be right.

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i completely ignore the GREENS they are as thick as 2 short planks.

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Rusting away at disused naval bases & the bottom of various seas & oceans.

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and more annoying than a ten mile traffic jam where you are stuck for hours on end.

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And guess what?
Extinction rebellion are planning to blockade fuel depots in the coming weeks.
You could not make it up.
Here we are looking into the jaws of a nuclear abyss and this is their response,a pox on their houses.

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Aye and today Russia has bombed a CHILDRENS HOSPITAL and PREGNANT WOMENS HOSPITAL. PUTIN IF I SAY WHAT HE IS I will get BANNED. although extiction rebellion are gonna start again. if PUTIN got shut of them i would not complain.

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I would not argue with that either….I just wonder where these people’s brains are…..that the people of the UK are being asked to pay stupid amounts for fuel and these protesters want to make their lives even harder.

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i would exterminate the scum.

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I might not go quite that far, but I would certainly disable their ability to disrupt the lives of people who are trying to keep the cart on the wheels.

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oh i certainly would.

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Well, in a Democratic Country anyone has the right to protest against anything, but I do hope the organisers of this keep in mind that if those that turn up to make life awkward for others, did not use absolutely 'green' transport they should be disallowed to protest as hypocrites.

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If they start glueing their heads to roads then, clearly, these people won’t be able to drink and risk severe dehydration.
So I’d suggest that drivers carry a plastic bottle of “natural, 100% human water” so they can pour it over the heads of protestor they come across.

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You have a right to protest as long as the protest is one certain way. Ask nigal farage as his event at bolton, which is basically anti net zero, has been cancelled. organise anything pro lockdown, blm, green, trans or promote dinghy divers then you,ll be fine with every organisation helping you. do the opposite where we might protest then you,re snookered.

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There is protesting and there is extinction rebellion protesting……I like Exiles idea of how we should treat them for dehydration.