Personal Data.
 

I have not been on Accy Webb for a couple of weeks because of the obligation to have to accept the new Personal Data Thingy magig that keeps popping up before I can enter the site; What the ???? is that all about ? I have never needed too have to accept that in the years that I have been posting on here before. :confused:

Re: Personal Data.
 

I could explain but, you don't do tech'.
:mosher:

Re: Personal Data.
 

Correct Less, the only tech that I can bring to mind is the old Tech-ne-Colour films of Yesteryear, :hehetable

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy I’m not sure what the problem is that you are experiencing. I gave personal data when I joined Accyweb but haven’t had to give it since.

By the way, Less, Taddy was concerned enough to ask a question that deserved an answer and although you might have thought your reply was witty it did come across as slightly condescending and was of no help whatsoever. Did not answer his question. Disappointing. Taddy is too nice a person to tell you that but I’m not.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Having said the above, I'm sure Taddy would appreciate an answer to his question, as would anyone else who is experiencing the same difficulty.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy let me know in uncertain terms what he thinks of tech and smeared his thoughts all over a thread I started a few months ago. so I don't really consider him nice, more self demanding. (Only my opinion but I am allowed it so don't bother twisting your knickers in his defence it would mean nothing to me).




Taddy showed a lack of appreciation when people willingly and freely tried helping him with his 'quoting' problem, (still ongoing) so once bitten, don't expect me to put my hand forward again let him google for answers.
:mad:

Re: Personal Data.
 

Less, let me assure you that I do not get my knickers in a twist for anyone, and I am pleased to know that it wouldn’t mean anything to you even if I did. I will say though that Taddy has certainly rocked your boat. Oh, boy!

Without searching back through the threads I cannot comment about Taddy’s posts regarding the computing problems he had at the time, the posts that caused you to now write such scathing comments. I would respectfully suggest though that the way you interpreted his posts might have been different to how he had meant them to be read. It can happen, but not having read them I really don’t know.

Anyway I am not here to champion anyone’s cause, I just thought that the attitude shown to the question Taddy asked on this current thread was dismissive and unhelpful, and that others might have had the same query. That is my opinion, and (like you with yours) I think I am allowed it. Whether you answer the question is your prerogative, and yes there is always Mr Google.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Not everyone understands tech.
This is especially true of the older generations…of which I am one.
I would always try to enlighten someone if I know the answer to something…even if the person I am helping had been,what I considered to be unappreciative of my efforts.
Why might that be then?
Because for everyone who asks the question there are two or three people sat at home pondering whether to ask the same question, but perhaps not wanting to look silly.
And yes, there is always Google, but you still need some skill in finding out the right terminology to ask the question.
If you can’t be kind, then be quiet.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy this message has only bern coming up since Roy changed servers so it is to do with ‘cookies’.
Now these cookies are not those lovely chocolate chip things you can dunk in your tea.
Oh No….they are a different kettle of fish altogether. This what they are.

https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-c...itions/cookies

I get rid of them…I never click on the ‘Accept all’ button…I go in and manage them myself.
And I do not forget the vendors either…legitimate interest or not, they are ditched.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272194]Taddy this message has only bern coming up since Roy changed servers so it is to do with ‘cookies’.
Now these cookies are not those lovely chocolate chip things you can dunk in your tea.
Oh No….they are a different kettle of fish altogether. This what they are.

https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-c...itions/cookies



Thank you for the above information Marge, I have printed it out for future use, it seems that I may have caused a slight storm in a teacup with my Luddite ways but never mind eh, ;);)

Re: Personal Data.
 

Thank you Dotti

Re: Personal Data.
 

Oh Deary, Deary me, It seems that I have upset someone, possibly (the same someone) that I "supposedly" upset in earlier posts, if this is the case then I can only "sincerely" apologize, my post may have seemed flippant but that was not intentional.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=taddy;1272203]Taddy, if the question occurred to you, then there are others out there who could be in the same boat.
I am happy that I could help out.
There is no sin in not knowing, but it is crazy to find out you have a gap in your knowledge without trying to plug it.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272208][QUOTE=taddy;1272203]

Taddy, if the question occurred to you, then there are others out there who could be in the same boat.
I am happy that I could help out.
There is no sin in not knowing, but it is crazy to find out you have a gap in your knowledge without trying to plug it.

Marge, Although my two ounces of grey matter is 76 year's old, there are not enough plugs being made that can fulfill the gaps in my knowledge of all and sundry, my parents, Huncoat Junior School and Woodnook Secondary School did their best to put me on the right road but it is only life itself that can define how your life will work out.

Thank you to whoever (our) English teacher was at Woodnook, otherwise I would not have been able to compose this post, I cannot remember the name but I think it was Miss ?, I have know doubt that you will be able to remember Her/him.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Miss Croston…our form teacher was one of our English teachers.
I have had the same basic education, but I have never stopped learning.
There has never been a better time to learn, nor has there ever been easier access to knowledge.

Who knows what we would have made of ourselves if we had had these options when we were growing up.

I try to learn something new every year…this year it is brain surgery but I am having trouble getting participants to allow me to practice my new found skills :D

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272217]Miss Croston…our form teacher was one of our English teachers.

Ah yes, now I remember, I seem to recollect that she was straight out of Teacher training school, a very good looking young woman who stirred the loins of a lot of the young lads who had recently reached puberty, myself included.;);)

Re: Personal Data.
 

Yes, you are right.
She was just out of teacher training college.
I remember her being brought to tears by the antics of Patrick Varley and Roy Wallace.
They were in their element in being bad lads for her…a baptism of fire.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272226]Yes, you are right.
She was just out of teacher training college.
I remember her being brought to tears by the antics of Patrick Varley and Roy Wallace.

I think that they are both no longer with us, Maybe Cashy can help on that one, I seem to remember on an earlier post that he mentioned Pat Varley had died but whether he knew Roy Wallace, I don't Know.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I have just spent ten minutes deselecting the cookies that Accyweb wants to place on my machine.
When you logged out from the previous server you would get a message that all cookies were cleared.
There were well over a hundred vendors who wanted to place their cookies on my machine.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Oh Marge, I do wish that I had Your Tech Knowledge, Even with the information that you kindly supplied as to allow, remove cookies, I can not get my head around it, I have found the box that says "settings>Privacy" but I cannot find the option that says "Allow local data". It seems that I am going to have to ask my daughter to help me out once more, (sad I know but there it is).

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy if I can do it then you can do it too.
But for now get your daughter to show you how…..if you have a smart phone record how she did it and watch it until you have got it.
If you do not have a smart phone then you just have to get her to repeat the way she did it.
Persist, do not give up.
Winners are losers who never quit.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272492]Taddy if I can do it then you can do it too.
But for now get your daughter to show you how…..if you have a smart phone record how she did it and watch it until you have got it.
If you do not have a smart phone then you just have to get her to repeat the way she did it.
Persist, do not give up.
Winners are losers who never quit.

I shall do my best, we will just have see how it goes.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Yet again I have just had to opt out of those pesky requests for personal data.
That is unchecking more than one hundred toggles to prevent my computer having bits of info being put on my device.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I still have not got the know how to attempt that Marge, I am very envious of your computer skills, I shall have to remember to ask my Daughter the next time she calls if she can sort it for me.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy it is all learned by trial and error.
I used to yell for my daughter to help me out, but now she yells out for me….that must be something.
I am eternally curious.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272532]Taddy it is all learned by trial and error.
I used to yell for my daughter to help me out, but now she yells out for me….that must be something.

I am eternally curious.

So am I but with me being a male of the species I don't have the same patience that the Female's of the species possess, as Hazel (often), comments "Mick, slow down and think about things before acting on them", or some other (put down). Only jesting, I love it really.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I HAD SUMMAT SIMILAR. had a large square across accyweb telling me i had to accept adverts so i stopped using it for a couple of weeks, hoping it would go,was only on accyweb.i thought i had been hacked had to take my laptop into a shop when it did not go,the guy in the shop told me i had not been hacked but he got rid for me,for next to nothing it cost.never been as glad in my life, i asked a few people about this who are on here twas only me that had this.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Cashy, I know the feeling.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I am going to stay logged in because I am fed up of deselecting 117 toggles to dent access to my personal data.
I get this request every few days and I am fed up of doing this.
The only way I can think I can save myself from this frustration is to stay logged in.
So my button might be green, but it doesn’t mean I am here.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272933]I am going to stay logged in because I am fed up of deselecting 117 toggles to dent access to my personal data.
I get this request every few days and I am fed up of doing this.
The only way I can think I can save myself from this frustration is to stay logged in.
So my button might be green, but it doesn’t mean I am here.

Marge, with me being the ultimate Luddite I am sorry but you will have to explain that to me.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy, I wish I could explain it in a way that you would understand it.
But I would need to take pictures to show you.
It is getting a bit ridiculous when after a few days I try to log on and I am yet again asked to consent to my personal details being stored by all these companies or organisations.
Now my iPad is insisting on logging me out after each visit.
So my ploy to avoid having to deal with the data consent requests may not work.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I have, again today, been faced with those pesky requests for personal data.
So have spent time cancelling something like 117 toggles to deny access to companies who would want to use me details.
My ploy not to log out of the site seems to have been in vain.
It seems only a few days ago that I completed this chore…but it had to be done again.
Why doesn’t the site save my preferences for longer?
Perhaps if I keep having to do this they will think I might get fed up and accept all requests.
Well, I won’t, but it might stop me from logging on.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1272938]Taddy, I wish I could explain it in a way that you would understand it.
But I would need to take pictures to show you.

Thank you anyway.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Just had to do the bloody personal data thing again…so my choices last only one week.
I ask myself if it is worth it….because I am beginning to doubt it.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Another week has passed and again I am being badgered for my personal data.
Why am I needed to do this on a weekly basis?
I have not changed my mind…if I did I could easily change the settings.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I cant understand why yer being asked for them? the wife never has been and she buys most stuff online?

Re: Personal Data.
 

No Cashy, the personal data request is for this site and it has only happened since the server change, and it is only on my iPad. My desktop has not thrown up this request.
It is for third parties to use my data and some of these companies want to leave their cookies on my device for 730 days.

I have had to uncheck all those toggles today to come on the forum...there are 117 in total and it is tiresome becuse t takes about ten minutes to do it

Re: Personal Data.
 

the sites gone crazy i think.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Well, it is not what it once was, that is for sure.
Despite efforts to get people to engage and to post…it still seems like it is fading.
Yet the other day there were more than 200 people reading stuff in General chat…they read, but do not contribute and recently there have been some threads that should have been of interest.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Margaret,
Do you clear your browsing history on your iPad regularly?
I do, and the next time I go to the Accyweb it requires me to log in and up pops the ‘cookie’ option request.
What I notice is that, other than ‘legitimate’ interests, all the annoying toggles options (personal ads, etc) are defaulted to not accepting.
So I click on ‘confirm’.
Are you also trying to untick the ‘legitimate” toggles too?

Re: Personal Data.
 

yes I deny legitimate interests and the biggest task is in the 'Vendors' section.
It doesn't seem to matter whether I close my browser of not...i can leave the tab open but if i go back to it i need to log in again.
I thought that not logging out on my iPad would mean that i did not get these irritating requests, but it seems that since the change of server i am logged out automatically.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1273359]yes I deny legitimate interests and the biggest task is in the 'Vendors' section.
It doesn't seem to matter whether I close my browser of not...i can leave the tab open but if i go back to it i need to log in again.
I thought that not logging out on my iPad would mean that i did not get these irritating requests, but it seems that since the change of server i am logged out automatically.

All this leaves me in absolute bewilderment.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Taddy it is just a bleeding imbuggerance.
I just wonder if these companies who harvest our details, make it that way so that we will click on ‘Accept All’.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Of course they want you to accept all, but they also have to give you a way of not accepting all their buscuits, so they just make it as hard as possible not to accept them. You can blame the EU mostly for this. A lot of websites, at least EU/UK based ones give you the option to only accept necessary cookies and reject none essential ones and that info should be permanent. I think the forum software on Accy web uses 3rd party ads and therefore also biscuits, sorry cookies....

Re: Personal Data.
 

You do need to understand how the internet works, the internet is a none persistent state, which means that anytime you visit a website it treats you like that's the first time you've ever visited. Hence biscuits, sorry cookies, came about to help websites know if you've visited before and therefore remember you are.

Alas cookies were exploited, so they weren't just tracking you on one website but across multiple sites. Hence the ICO got involved ( ICO = Information Commissioner's Office) and then we had the EU implementation of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Which has a clause that all websites need to tell you about what biscuits, sorry cookies, they are collecting, how they are using them and also give you the option to deny. Most websites are implementing this wrongly, a website cannot say by using this website you consent to having cookies.

The new law says unless you consent, and consent cannot be implied by using a website, no cookies (unless they necessary for the running of the site) can be placed on your computer.

In order for a website to remember that you said no to biscuits, sorry cookies, they have to put one on your computer so that the website knows not to ask again the next time you visit.

My guess is every time you click that you don't want to have cookies there's a cookie on your computer that expires after 7 days. When websites create cookies there's also the option to have them expire after a certain point in time.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Ryewolf, thank you for the very good explanation of cookies. It will help Taddy…I hope.
I understand these bits of information (or at least I think I do because I knew all that is in your clear explanation)….which is why I do not want them.
It used to say when you logged off ‘all cookies cleared’.
I would be happy if the current server had an option to select only ‘essential’ cookies, but there isn’t.
So I am left with the job of unchecking all these toggles every seven days.

It isn’t as if there is a lot on the forum that warrants going through this process once a week.
I am getting close to the point of not bothering because it hardly seems worthwhile.

Re: Personal Data.
 

I think they called them ‘cookies’ so that we associate these things with something pleasant.
And who would reject a lovely cookie?
Well, not me if it is well baked and full of white chocolate bits….but the other sort can bu883r off.

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1273395]Ryewolf, thank you for the very good explanation of cookies. It will help Taddy…I hope.

Marge, After reading Ryewolfs well put together post I am no wiser and to be honest I am not particularly bothered, I will just carry on tickling the keyboard and see what (if anything) pops up.
By the way, I hope that Dave is improving, please give him Hazel and my best wishes.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Thank you Taddy.

Re: Personal Data.
 

Well it seems obvious that the forum isn't implementing a good cookie policy, not sure how you get around it. It should be unless you accept all cookies none should be the default. There should be two options Accept all and Decline all and even that is wrong

Re: Personal Data.
 

On Friday I went through that irritating ritual of denying access for those pesky cookies.
So yesterday I was again asked to permit these odious bits of crap.
I managed to use my back button and avoided the blasted request….but this morning I was asked again and could not dismiss.
What the hell….? Four days…..will it be every day soon?
It isn’t as if there is much to come here for….I am getting very close to kicking this place into the long grass.

Maybe I won’t be missed seeing as I know bu88er all about football!

Re: Personal Data.
 

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1273796]
It isn’t as if there is much to come here for….I am getting very close to kicking this place into the long grass.

You and me both Marge.

Re: Personal Data.
 

again today I have been faced with the request for permission for this personal data stuff.

so I am not going to use my ipad anymore to look at Accyweb.
My ipad logs me out every time i leave the site.
My desk top doesn't.
And I have told my Desk top when it asked for this info the 'Buzz off'(or words to that effect.
Save my temper for things that are more important to be mad at!