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simon 10-02-2005 08:24

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Just announced they are to marry quickly :eek: April 6th ish??

What do you think? I personally do not like it, because this is the women that helped make Princess Dianna's life miserable. And how will the boys look at there new Step Mum?? After she split up Mum and Dad????

Lot of legal issues to sort out as well?? QUEEN???

Tealeaf 10-02-2005 08:30

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i don't think we've had a Queen Camilla before. I like the words "marry quickly". Do you think she's pregnant?

-pixie 10-02-2005 08:33

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Originally Posted by simon
Just announced they are to marry quickly :eek: April 6th ish??

What do you think? I personally do not like it, because this is the women that helped make Princess Dianna's life miserable. And how will the boys look at there new Step Mum?? After she split up Mum and Dad????

Lot of legal issues to sort out as well?? QUEEN???

They'll probably make her Kings consort if anything.
I personally don't see what the fuss is about. Or what Princess Di has to do with anything. Shes been dead for long enough and besides she wasn't exactly an angel herself was she?
All the bleeding hearts will be on parade till then and I suppose we will be stuck with the channels showing "Di" footage in protest.:rolleyes:

slinky 10-02-2005 08:40

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yep I have to agree with you pixie, leave em too it I say.
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Originally Posted by -pixie
They'll probably make her Kings consort if anything.
I personally don't see what the fuss is about. Or what Princess Di has to do with anything. Shes been dead for long enough and besides she wasn't exactly an angel herself was she?
All the bleeding hearts will be on parade till then and I suppose we will be stuck with the channels showing "Di" footage in protest.:rolleyes:


-pixie 10-02-2005 08:43

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I'm just not looking forward to all the Di fanatics that will be out and about till then. For goodness sake she was a deranged slapper, who was a bit posher than the rest of us allegedly, not a freakin saint.
I'm no big fan of Charles and Camilla either, just live and let live.

vorlon24 10-02-2005 08:45

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Well said Pixie!

Cafu01 10-02-2005 09:41

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well said pixie

Tinkerbelle 10-02-2005 11:50

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Well said pixie! Leave them to it everybody deserves happiness, nobody can help who they fall in love with. They say they are soul mates so good on them and congratulations hope it all works out fine and they spend many happy years together.

mez 10-02-2005 11:51

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WELL i must say i have to AGREE with you pixie, and i think its time they left him (charles) alone to have a bit of happiness, one would assume that the boys are quite well adjusted now to the fact that their dad has a woman. i wish them both all the best.

Tealeaf 10-02-2005 12:02

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Yep, this is the best news of the year so far....I've just been out and ordered my XL size Royal Wedding 2005 T-Shirt (Geddit!!!). I'll also be saving up to get my Royal Doulton 36-piece China set, with lovely piccys of the bride and groom, a special keepsake that will be treasured down the years to come.


I wonder.....do you think the AccyWeb should have a street party with balloons and trifle and similar things? I do hope the date is'nt Wednesday 6th April, because its daft having a public holiday in the middle of the week, unless, of course, they're going to give us the entire week off in celebration, which I doubt will happen, so a friday or a monday will be best so we can all have a long weekend.

God bless the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

janet 10-02-2005 12:37

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I am surprised the Queen has given her blessing after all this time.
Maybe she is thinking of giving up the throne in a couple of years and wants to see Charles wed first.

fireman 10-02-2005 12:39

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No Definately Not We Will As Tax Payers Be Paying Enough Towards The Wedding Ie. Policing, Bringing In And Bending Over Backwards For Visiting Heads Of State Why Dont They Just Do What Many Other People Do On The Second Time Round, B....r Off To The Register Office Without A Fuss And Spare Us All The Expence.

Margaret Pilkington 10-02-2005 14:45

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He should have married her in the first place and saved a lot of anguish for Diana.
But God, the kids would have been ugly!!!!!! I hope they don't make a big fuss about it. And I don't think the queen will ever abdicate in favour of weak kneed Charles.

accyplus 10-02-2005 15:06

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Whats the odds Diane,s family will be invited,?.

lettie 10-02-2005 15:19

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Camilla has been on the scene since way before Diana, who let's face it was probably an arranged marriage which everyone pretends doesn't happen but we all know it does. At least the kids inherited their mothers looks, I hope they didn't inherit her manipulative personality. I know Camilla isn't pretty but our Charlie is no Brad Pitt either is he......:D
I wish them well.

WillowTheWhisp 10-02-2005 15:33

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I wonder what on earth made them pick that date?
They've gone and upstaged us now! Ours isn't until May 14th.

I think people should stop having opinions and just let them get on with it.

lettie 10-02-2005 15:43

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
I wonder what on earth made them pick that date?
They've gone and upstaged us now! Ours isn't until May 14th.

Everybody will have forgotten theirs by then Willow. I'm sure that yours will be far nicer and not some media fiasco, which theirs is sure to be.:)

Busman747 10-02-2005 15:44

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I agree with Pixie on this subject, I used to be very much in favour of the monarchy but now I don't really care much either way.

Pixie, I loved your "deranged slapper" posting but the accyweb won't allow me to give you karma:( ....next time;)

vorlon24 10-02-2005 15:56

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Allow me, Busman!!!

Busman747 10-02-2005 16:01

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Thank you vorlon :D

Tealeaf 10-02-2005 16:03

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I think the wedding date should be 31st August, just to **** off all the Di fan club.

Margaret Pilkington 10-02-2005 18:53

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I was not a huge fan of Diana, but I think Charles treated her abominably, just used her to provide him with two sons....I don't think he ever loved her....he even said as much when they got engaged. Well, what goes around comes around.
I couldn't give two hoots for either of them. In fact if I said what I really think they would probably have me locked up in the tower!

fireman 10-02-2005 19:04

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hows this for name dropping i used to be a real royalist, having met prince charles and his father and been to lunch with the princess royal. i was also professionally quite involved with the duke of westminster . but i must admit since diana and the qheens reaction i honestly think that this country could get along fine without them. recent events have ruined the whole concept of a royal family.

Margaret Pilkington 10-02-2005 19:14

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Prince Charles is morally bankrupt......I am saying no more!

Margaret Pilkington 10-02-2005 19:16

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Willow, yours will be a much better event......no media circus......just family, friends and people that you love.

fireman 10-02-2005 19:17

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i just feel for his lovelly sons oh yes i know they have done a few stupid things but who hasn't

-pixie 10-02-2005 20:01

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Originally Posted by Busman747
I agree with Pixie on this subject, I used to be very much in favour of the monarchy but now I don't really care much either way.

Pixie, I loved your "deranged slapper" posting but the accyweb won't allow me to give you karma:( ....next time;)

I don't mind either way about the monarchy. I always think we could be much worse off, even if they are only a figurehead.

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Originally Posted by Busman747
Thank you vorlon :D

Thank you both!:D


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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
I think the wedding date should be 31st August, just to **** off all the Di fan club.

That would be tasteless. Funny, but tasteless.

-pixie 10-02-2005 20:17

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
I wonder what on earth made them pick that date?
They've gone and upstaged us now! Ours isn't until May 14th.

Mines on May 13th...















..2006.:D

WillowTheWhisp 10-02-2005 21:56

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OOh almost great minds think alike there.

-pixie 10-02-2005 22:04

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
OOh almost great minds think alike there.

I think you meant great minds almost think alike.:D

Theres absolutley no doubt about the great minds part.;)

WillowTheWhisp 10-02-2005 22:18

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I was being distracted by a phone call at the time. :D

Bazf 10-02-2005 22:42

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For some one hes been sha#@ing for 30yrs she doesnt wear well.http://www.luxweb.co.uk/%7Eaccringt/...lies/smile.gif

chav1 11-02-2005 01:11

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ok ive got £5 says she dies in a tunnel within 5 years

i just wish i had put a fiver on dirty slut box die :)

simon 11-02-2005 08:38

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I am AMAZED at how callous some people can talk of the dead!!!!. Considering such ones have never known the person, just built an opinion out of the gutter press :(

-pixie 11-02-2005 09:29

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Originally Posted by simon
I am AMAZED at how callous some people can talk of the dead!!!!. Considering such ones have never known the person, just built an opinion out of the gutter press :(

I'm sorry I didn't know you knew her on a personal level. :rolleyes:

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 10:08

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im sorry but im absolutely disgusted with the name calling of Diana, "deranged slapper" oh come on so you telling me that if the girl down the road was married to a man for years and he wasnt the best husband so they broke up and she found a man who makes her happy that in turn she has made herself worthy of the name "deranged slapper" i dont think so.

At the end of the day maybe she wasnt the perfect angel but then come on who is?
I dont care what charles does its his life at the end of the day, and let him do what makes him happy if he wants to marry camilla that up to him hes the one who has to live with her!!

Talking ill of the dead should not be done, for one she cant answer back for herself and 2 would you like someone to call your mother a "Deranged Slapper".

Seems all of you knew her well to be able to pass judgement on her like that, well i didnt and i wont pass judgement on her or anyone else i dont know for that matter.

Well enough said on that topic and shame on you all.

-pixie 11-02-2005 10:23

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She needed a lot of men to make her happy then. I mean there was Hewitt, Will Carling, a couple of surgeons - all whilst she was a married woman. Maybe she was just really scared of the dark and couldn't sleep on her own.;)

As for deranged - lets see...anorexic, bulimic, manipulative, paranoid...the list is endless.

The lot of them could be on the front pages of Take A Break, never mind OK!

As for passing judgement - granted I never knew the woman on a personal level. Only through the media which she used to her full advantage.

Mick 11-02-2005 10:30

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So you think everything you read in the papers is true then ?

-pixie 11-02-2005 10:33

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Originally Posted by mick
So you think everything you read in the papers is true then ?

Where did I say that?

Diana gave numerous interviews, had millions of photos taken etc etc. Its hard NOT to build a certain image of someone when they are thrusting themselves onto your front pages every day.

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 10:36

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So what was you doing in the room while she had these men with her? if it declaired in ok mag that the world was to end tomorrow you would really beleive it would you?

Can you always trust what they say and if your no fan of dianas why even bother to read what they say so that you can pass judgement the way you have!!

If she wants lots of male company then that would be her business not yours.

As for the "Deranged" i think if a person has a few problems in their life people like you dont make it any easier for them i just hope you never have a problem in your life like that god forbid it would make you "deranged".

I hope nobody ever has the problems you describe because that would be trully awful and i certainly wouldnt call them deranged.

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 10:40

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Like i said you read it you believed it but at the end of the day it dont give you the right to call people these hurtful names.

Would you like it if people started calling you these names?

No it probably wouldnt bother you because you would be a stong kinda person but to people who have the problems you have just outlined do you think it would do any good.

Its like being bullied in the play ground.

chav1 11-02-2005 13:28

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diana was a ***** no doubts about it

the only thing thats different now is that she is a dead ****

yes she was the peoples princess

the peoples princess for a price , as long as you had money her knickers would drop when the price was right

if an every day woman acted the way she did she would soon pick up names like ******* , **** etc so why should she be any different

personaly i think the driver of her car only crashed because ******************

as you can tell i am no fan of the royal family or their hangers on :(

also i dont believe everything i read in the press but i sure believe what i see and hear like the phone recordings she made and letters she wrote

the press didnt record or write them and neither did the tv programs they only showed them to us

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 13:41

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Im sorry but for the language used i can tell your not very intelligent, so you dont warrent a reply!

Mick 11-02-2005 13:43

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So Chav 1
you have met her and talked to her have you ?
I HAVE as she came round the place i worked for
and i can tell you she is a very nice person

chav1 11-02-2005 13:59

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Originally Posted by mick
So Chav 1
you have met her and talked to her have you ?
I HAVE as she came round the place i worked for
and i can tell you she is a very nice person

public image all for show i would be smiling and stuff if i got paid thousands just to show up and be nice shes hardly going to turn up and start acting daft infront of the press is she


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Im sorry but for the language used i can tell your not very intelligent, so you dont warrent a reply!
you just did .. DUH

next time i dont warrant a reply simply dont bother

sorry guys and gals but everyone has somthing they cant abide and mine is the royal family , if you dont like bad things been said about the royal family try www.kissroyaltysbum.co.germany

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hang on i didnt swear once and if i did it would have been censored:p

-pixie 11-02-2005 14:38

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO
So what was you doing in the room while she had these men with her? if it declaired in ok mag that the world was to end tomorrow you would really beleive it would you?

Can you always trust what they say and if your no fan of dianas why even bother to read what they say so that you can pass judgement the way you have!!

If she wants lots of male company then that would be her business not yours.

As for the "Deranged" i think if a person has a few problems in their life people like you dont make it any easier for them i just hope you never have a problem in your life like that god forbid it would make you "deranged".

I hope nobody ever has the problems you describe because that would be trully awful and i certainly wouldnt call them deranged.

I never said it WAS my business. I was stating MY opinion of her public persona that Diana chose to portray. It was very hard NOT to notice anything that Diana did whilst she was alive as she always made sure she had a face full of make up and a camera crew whenever the mood took her to do something nice.
Diana had only a few problems? Blimey, if she was still alive she would have been a medical marvel with all the new mental problems they could have named after her.
And chav thank you for your comments. Although you need to look at that potty mouth.:D

chav1 11-02-2005 14:40

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It must be my "low IQ".;)

I do apologise.

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 14:45

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ok chav1 where in my post did i mention swearing? i said bad language, i certainly wouldnt want one of our younger viewers reading your post! I would say inappropriate and uncalled for.

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 14:52

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ok pixie yes you certainly are entitled to your opinion and i wont take that away from you.

This thread aint going nowhere a matter of conflicting opinions i think.

I suppose it will be someone else thats going to get in another thread.

Just a little reminder of a few words i heard throughout life: If you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all.

-pixie 11-02-2005 14:54

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Life would be pretty mundane if we all stuck that.

Tealeaf 11-02-2005 14:56

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Ya can't beat a good full and frank exchange of opinion!!!!!!!!!!

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 14:58

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so be it. But sometimes those few little words should ring through your ears.

-pixie 11-02-2005 15:04

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO
so be it. But sometimes those few little words should ring through your ears.

If they ever do I'll let you know. Until then I don't need you to preach morals and ethics to me dear.

-pixie 11-02-2005 15:04

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Ya can't beat a good full and frank exchange of opinion!!!!!!!!!!

As you would know !:)

Tinkerbelle 11-02-2005 15:08

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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO
ok chav1 where in my post did i mention swearing? i said bad language, i certainly wouldnt want one of our younger viewers reading your post! I would say inappropriate and uncalled for.

But it was also extremely funny :rofl38:

-pixie 11-02-2005 15:10

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
But it was also extremely funny :rofl38:

I'm glad I'm not the only one with a twisted sense of humour!:D

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 15:14

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sorry but reading chavs post did NOT make me laugh, chuckle, chortle, titter, and i certainly didnt crack a rib!! Twisted well lets say you said it.

chav1 11-02-2005 15:38

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although my language may have been close to the bone i can assure you there are 5 year olds in accrington who could teach us older folk a few new words

i wasnt looking to get into a slanging match and didnt think i was going to as i didnt launch a personal attack on anyone here where as i was called thick or words to that description

but..

if you are going to call someone out on their intelligence it would be wise to make sure you dont make spelling mistakes when doing so

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Im sorry but for the language used i can tell your not very intelligent, so you dont warrent a reply!
although you spelt warrant wrong the rest of your spelling was fine lol

ps:

i know my spelling is awful but i dont call other people out on their intelligence

can we still be friends despite our difference of opinion on how to treat the dead :hippy:

Tealeaf 11-02-2005 15:48

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Just think....it could have been far worse. It could have been Charlie that died in the tunnel and Di would be marrying Dodi in April!

MUMMIBOO 11-02-2005 15:50

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I was not calling you thick in any way i was just refering to the fact that you could have put your point forward in a different way no need for the terms used.

I have a 5 year old daughter and i know she certainly wouldn't know any of the words for sure but she would be able to read them then come asking me what they meant.

Hey i never fell out with anyone, like its been said before we are all entitled to our opinion, the only thing that did really bother me was, how do i put it the way you compiled your post.

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2005 19:56

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Charles can marry who he wants(and is doing) but he should not be allowed to be the King of this country, because as such he is the head of the Church of England. He should have to renounce his right to the throne.

simon 11-02-2005 20:18

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Chav-1 I have 3 children that use this messageboard and I don't appreciate your THOUGHTLESS language.......................they are 7,8,13 yrs and none use or think in that language. And I dont want them learning it THANKS...

ANNE 11-02-2005 23:23

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Your post didn't make me smile either chav.
I'm proud of MUMMIBOO.
I couldn't have put what she said better my-self.
I'm sick and fed up of hearing about it.
if no one is getting hurt then what does it matter?
Diana isnt here and should be kept out of it.

Acrylic-bob 12-02-2005 04:49

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I think that "Deranged Slapper" was quite amusing, a little shocking but amusing none the less and certainly no worse than anything seen in the press.

However, I do have to agree with Anne and Simon, that we should all be mindful of the fact that children have unrestricted access to the site and we should try, where ever possible, to moderate our language. If you cannot immediately think of an alternative to the word you wish to use there is always the option of using asterisks (*) in place of some of the letters.

WillowTheWhisp 12-02-2005 13:37

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Originally Posted by chav1
hang on i didnt swear once and if i did it would have been censored:p

I think you'll find that when it had been seen by a moderator it was censored, it was subsequently censored even further. 'Nuff said?

Alice 16-02-2005 13:10

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Well said Margaret. IMHO most of you are missing the point.
It's not about Diana's virtues or lack of them. It's not even about Camillas "striking" looks.
Marriages do sometimes fail for lots of reasons and those who are to blame do sometimes get a second chance.
However Charles shouldn't expect to have his cake and eat it. If he really loves Camilla why can't he give up his right to the throne just like his great uncle (I think that's what he was)Edward did? It's not as if there is a shortage of others who could step up. This would go some way, at least, to repair the damage done to the Monarchy by the "suit yourself" attitudes of some of the family members.
As King, Charles would be head of the Church of England and if he was to take over after this he would damage both the Monarchy and the Church. Church and the Monarchy might not be considered very trendy in the popular view but they are both important to a lot of people.

Gosh I sound all grown up!!!

accymel 16-02-2005 13:32

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Lets put things in perspective here, Is Charlie doing anything that another normal person does ?? OK not gone about it totally right n no im not a Royalist, but he's human like the rest of us least we all know now that royalty are not much better really. How many have divorced then re-married or living with someone in oo-err sin lol whatever circumstances a bet quite a few in same boat as Charlie eh? How many kids in this country are in step - parent families....lots? .... n nobody makes a huge fuss as long as they are happy n doing things for right reasons then what the heck!


So why is it diff for Charlie?? least at last he's gonna marry the woman he's been with secretly for sooo long ok she aint a patch on Diana for looks n heart. But least he is marrying her for right reasons well hope he learnt lol, even at the expense of his mummy dear. When Charlie n Diana married i think it was forced n they were no way ready also being young n naive they learnt the hard way like the rest of us do. Those young lads will never forget their mother n Diana did well in raising em to be humans than royal robots, she was a good mother n patron to this country n ppl wont forget that, so why prolong things further n let Charlie get on with it n all the best to him cos he'll need it lol n braver than me i dont think i could imagine to walk down the isle again...cept for me furneral lol:rolleyes:

Take away the big mansion, taxfree money etc n you'll find the Royal's absolutely no different to any family in the country at the mo.

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2005 19:39

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But, remember Charles is NOT a normal person. He is a member of the Royal Family and one day if he becomes King, he will be head of the Church of England.....a church who sees Camilla as still married......so in effect not able to marry into the church.....hence the civil ceremony, with only a church blessing ( which is not the same as marrying into the church). Princess Margaret fell in love with Peter Towsend(who was divorced) and although there was only a very slim chance that she would become queen, was told that if she married Peter Townsend then she would have to renounce her right to the throne. I have NO problem with Charles marrying Camilla, but everything comes at a price, and the price would be that he cannot be King.

accymel 16-02-2005 20:01

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Oh blaming eckers it doesn't matter to me whether he's king or not, but really having the ole fashion view of the church of England - whom no doubt have married a few divorcee's themselves, but really is his marital decisions anyones bizz will it truelly effect the way the country is run n the way normal ppl are as long as he does his royal patronship to this country properly! N to get polictal mmmm wonder how the church of england started wasnt it so Henry the 8th could have many marriages cos many of his ex wives lost their head literally, now that isnt a nice example of the head of state is it, so what Charlie is doing is rather tame n the difference bet him n his uncle is that in those days...u stayed together, married an all cos it was the done thing doesnt apply to this day n age unfortunately...ahh i found that so romantic that Edward gave up his throne to marry his lady....gosh would u find men today giving up all football for his woman - not a cat in hell chance ... but nice while dream lasted all of 5 secs ... unless lol

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2005 20:09

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Yeah, you are right about Henry the 8th.....so he's the one to blame for all this.
And while it might be an old fashioned view of the Church..... it was the Church who made these rules. Everyone has to live by rules, and the message that Charles is giving is.....well, it is Ok to do anything you want. What Charles should have done was marry Camilla 30 years ago, but he did not have the b***s to stand up to his mother.

Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2005 20:14

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Edward the 8th(or he would have been) renounced the throne so that he could marry Wallis Simpson who herself was divorced......he could not marry a divorcee and become King.......and he was forced into exile......Not many men would give up their country and their crown for the woman they loved.....but he loved her enough to do that and he should be applauded because he did the right thing.

accymel 16-02-2005 20:17

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Pmsl Margaret dont want to think of charlies b***s yuky LOL but you're right about him being whimsical. Trouble is that does the Cof E stand with all the multi religious in the country, doesnt quite have the desired effect as these days one rule cancels out another, but TBH i dont think anyone really cares that much atm probably all sick of this camilla thing been happening for centuries [feels like it lol] n i dont think our Queen is ready to give up on the throne yet n chances could be that Wils gets it... who knows:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Yeah, you are right about Henry the 8th.....so he's the one to blame for all this.
And while it might be an old fashioned view of the Church..... it was the Church who made these rules. Everyone has to live by rules, and the message that Charles is giving is.....well, it is Ok to do anything you want. What Charles should have done was marry Camilla 30 years ago, but he did not have the b***s to stand up to his mother.


Margaret Pilkington 16-02-2005 20:21

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I think you are sooooooooo spot on there...... think the Queen knows what a milksop Charles is and intends to hang on in there til the last gasp. And you know what, the thought of Charlies b***s has fair put me off bull's eyes.

accymel 16-02-2005 20:24

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Lmao Margaret it has for me too lol

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And you know what, the thought of Charlies b***s has fair put me off bull's eyes.

accymel 16-02-2005 20:26

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Aye Margaret that man is a gentleman n a half what a huge gesture of love n commitment is that ..... an applause he gets off me ...respect!

WillowTheWhisp 19-02-2005 22:46

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Why does the suggestion of the Queen giving up the throne come into it? Charles should only inherit the throne when his mother dies. That is the normal way. There has been talk on and off for years of her abdicating in favour of her son or grandson but why?

It would be normal procedure for Charles to become king on his mother's death.

Why should the monarch be the head of the Church of England? As we've already said this C of E stance on divorce is rather hypocritical considering the reason the church was created was in order to grant Henry VIII a divorce and the freedom to remarry.

I just think it's rather amusing now that they can't marry at Windsor but have to go to the local Register Office.

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 13:15

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And now it looks like that may not be legal either.

I don't know why the Monarch is head of the Church of England Willow, that is just the way it is......and even though Diana is deceased Charles is still a divorcee and so is his intended......apparently the High Church of England requires the Monarch at the crowning to take Holy Communion and divorcees are banned from taking Holy Communion........again, don't ask me why, that's the way it is.

Personally I don't care what they do, as long as they don't expect me to chip in for the celebrations.

WillowTheWhisp 20-02-2005 13:39

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
the High Church of England requires the Monarch at the crowning to take Holy Communion and divorcees are banned from taking Holy Communion.

This will be an interesting point when it comes to Charles' accession to the throne. He and Diana were divorced but in the eyes of the Church that would not be recognised so that technically would they be regarded as still married? If that were the case then the fact that Diana is no longer alive could technically make Charles a widower, so would that then mean he'd be able to take Holy Communion following his coronation?

One for the boffins to ponder over.

It's so ludicrous because in the past the rules have been changed to suit the monarch of the time but now it seems that the monarchy has to change to suit the rules. What a crazy country we live in.

Maybe they'll end up getting married in Scotland after all and then if Scotland gets independance from England they could get crowned King & Queen of Scotland, then when Queen Elizabeth II dies Charles can inherit her throne and Bob's your Uncle.

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 13:44

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Apparently is doesn't work like that......again, I do not know the reason why..... it is buried in Royal protocol........but Scotland is the only place that they could have a civil ceremony....and if you remember that is where the Princess Royal married her husband......that was again because it was not legal for them to have a civil ceremony in England.

Personally, I don't want Charles to become King......if he was too weak kneed to stand up to his mother 30 odd years ago, he is too weak to become King.

WillowTheWhisp 20-02-2005 13:46

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But why does a king need to be strong? It's not like he has to actually rule or anything. All he would have to do is rubber stamp parliamentary bumph and be a tourist attraction.

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 19:34

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Of course you are right, which in effect says that the Monarchy is out dated and is only there to draw the tourists........ but again personally, I would prefer it if he looked strong.

West Ender 20-02-2005 21:01

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And the latest news is that they are both in therapy because of the stress of the wedding preparations. Aw - bless!

I find it hilarious that the Sunday Express quotes a palace source regarding Princess Michael's "tacky" book-signing deal at Windsor Guildhall. If this farcical wedding isn't "tacky", then what is?

So we have the head of the C of E , successor (though very indirectly) to Henry VIII who set the institution up so that he could grant himself the divorce he required, unable to marry within the C of E because it has changed its policy since Tudor times. He can't marry in Windsor Castle because, if he does, so can everyone else for at least the next 3 years. He wishes, if and when he succedes his mother, to be not Defender of the Faith but Defender of Faiths because he doesn't want to offend anyone (and he knows on which side his bread is buttered) and he's marrying the woman he has "kept" for the last 30 years because he couldn't be bothered to marry her when it was all legal and, lucky for him, he was able to have his cake and eat it too, where Mrs P-B was concerned, when it was necessary for him to produce the "heir and a spare".

Talk about the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson? A prim and proper affair compared to this sordid little lot.

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 21:08

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A weak kneed, lily livered custard. I may now be headed for the tower.......or I may now be beheaded in the tower. It is turning into a real dogs breakfast.
According to the Daily Mail.....if you believe all you read...... the Queen does not wish to see CP-B until the wedding......and the party has to be over by 6pm.

West Ender 20-02-2005 21:26

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If the late, lamented Princess Margaret (20 fags and a bottle of gin for breakfast) were still with us, the party would last until 6 p.m. - the next day. Of course, the guests would have to curtsey and call her "Ma'am darling" before they slid under the table. :p

(Margaret, is there room in the Tower for both of us?)

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 21:27

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I suppose we could share a cell.

Margaret Pilkington 20-02-2005 21:29

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I find all this wedding stuff really tedious......if Charlie had done the right thing some 30 odd years ago we could all be spared the indelicacy of the whole charade.

pendy 21-02-2005 12:44

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Keep a space for me in the Tower, as well! The whole thing is an absolute farce.

Is it true that Earl Spencer is marketing a "Royal Wedding Souvenir Dartboard" with Charles and Camilla tastefully represented?

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2005 13:14

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It maybe that the Spencer family turn up and object to the whole thing.......now wouldn't that be an embarrassment for C&C.
At this rate I think we are probably going to have a better party in the tower than they will have out of it..........and if you look on the upside we won't have to put up with any televisual images (yes,I know it isn't going to be televised, but it is being held in a public place so what is to stop Joe Public from going along with his video camera??????)

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2005 13:16

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Do you think the Special Branch will be sent out to buy up all the bad eggs and the soft tomatoes on the morning of the wedding.......I wouldn't throw soft ones...... mine would be in tins! I know......I know I am a self confessed cynical old baggage!

THOTH 21-02-2005 14:19

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington]I find all this wedding stuff really tedious......

My word Margaret, for someone who finds the subject tedious you are doing a fair amount of posting.

Margaret Pilkington 21-02-2005 14:22

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Well, you have to if you find you'd like to make a return comment! And that's what Accyweb is for.

garinda 23-02-2005 03:34

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Will all school children get commerative Royal wedding coins like last time? lf any one hears of bunting going up, or shops trimmmed up, call the republican hotline quick!


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