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vorlon24 08-03-2005 10:23

Evil Dead
 
Apologies first of all if this is in the wrong section.

Did anyone watch the Evil Dead on Channel Four on Sunday?

It was banned for a number of years after its release in the early 80s.

I watched it and couldn't see anything particularly horrific about it - most of it just made me laugh. There are some horrible bits in it, but no worse than films like Hellraiser or Friday the 13th.

rockrabbit 08-03-2005 11:59

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the whole series of the evil deads are comedies , evil dead 3 army of darkness has me in stitches everytime i watch it lol They are doing in america at the moment due for release later this year . The scenes off films like saving private ryan are far more disturbing than anything in films like evil dead

vorlon24 08-03-2005 12:49

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The reason behind the opening post was really to gauge views on this film, and why it was banned in the first place.

I can't see anything about the film that would lead to it being banned. As you said Rockrabbit, there are more disturbing scenes in other films, and I am sure at the time Evil Dead was made, there were other similar films around that made it past the censors

WillowTheWhisp 08-03-2005 13:19

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I didn't see it so I can't comment on that particular film but it does puzzle me how some things are acceptable to censors whilst others of a very similar nature are banned. What similar films were there out at the time which received certificates? What was unacceptable a few years ago is often regarded differently these days.

vorlon24 08-03-2005 13:32

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I guess you're right.

Frankie Goes To Hollwood is a prime example. The BBC banned it at the time, but you tend to hear it a lot on the radio nowadays

janet 08-03-2005 13:48

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Evil Dead 2 was a classic, pmsl when the eye popped out and landed right into someone's mouth.
They don't make them like that anymore.

wayneyboy1942 08-03-2005 14:19

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I get mixed up with these films,does'nt the bloke go back in time to fight an army of dead thingy's? On Bravo channle they used to have some very funny horror films Chopper chicks in Zombie town was brilliant! Another good one is Repossed a spoof on the Exorcist.:)

lettie 08-03-2005 14:29

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I managed to see a banned copy of the Evil Dead back in the 80's. In my opinion there was nothing too bad about it at the time. I also managed a banned copy of Cannibal Ferox. I can see why that one was banned as it was totally gruesome, I highly doubt that Cannibal would make it past the censors even now..;)

p_headless_g 08-03-2005 15:53

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"How much longer will the Government dither and Parliament blather while our children can continue to buy sadism from the video-pusher as easily - and almost as cheaply - as fruit gems from the sweetie shop?"

- Daily Mail, 30th June 1983

Blame Mary Whitehouse, the Conservative government, scare-mongering media and the rise of the 'video nasty' in the public conciousness. Around the early 80's, spurred on by Whitehouse, the Director of Public Prosecutions released a list of 60 videos that had been labelled obscene and were to be confiscated from video retailers. Right at the top was 'The Evil Dead', presumably picked mostly for the shock value in its name.
It was even passed for release by the BBFC - admittedly with minor edits. There was a scene with a pencil in a leg that was apparently trimmed because the pencil was wiggled twice, and the scene where a zombie starts beating a character around the head with a metal girder was edited so that there were only *three* blows to the head instead of *five*. Ridiculous...
You know it was originally meant to passed completely uncut? It was examined by three people at the time - James Ferman (the head of the BBFC) and two other examiners. Ferman and one of the examiners were in tears of laughter by the end of the movie, but the other examiner found it 'nauseating' and insisted that her 'bodily integrity had been attacked'.

vorlon24 08-03-2005 17:52

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Isn't it weird that the woman was the only one with a problem.

Probably a stuffed shirt, buttoned up to the collar government type where the word 'hell' used in the wrong contest offends

My wife thought it hilarious as well...

-pixie 08-03-2005 18:35

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Look at some of the things that have been banned though...I mean The Exorcist?!:rolleyes:

p_headless_g 08-03-2005 19:02

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Originally Posted by -pixie
Look at some of the things that have been banned though...I mean The Exorcist?!:rolleyes:

Some of the first tapes to be confiscated from video stores by the police were taken just because of the title...
This is why "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" was banned in Slough during the early 80s.

rockrabbit 08-03-2005 19:53

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i didnt actually know evil dead was banned . I didnt see the exorcist till a few years ago but cant work out why the banned it it was boring apart from the few funny bits . Apart from the bit of gore they arent really disturbing .

shiny gem 08-03-2005 20:38

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the evil dead trilogy rocks!!!! they are soooo funny and bruce campbell is hot!!!! lol

rockrabbit 08-03-2005 20:42

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Originally Posted by shiny gem
the evil dead trilogy rocks!!!! they are soooo funny and bruce campbell is hot!!!! lol

army of darkness is the best i even downloaded that on here and bruce campbell hot ? lol

shiny gem 08-03-2005 20:51

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Originally Posted by rockrabbit
army of darkness is the best i even downloaded that on here and bruce campbell hot ? lol

what he is!!!!! lol

p_headless_g 09-03-2005 03:56

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'The exorcist' was banned because it made the mistake of involving children, violence, religion and sex in the same movie. A surefire combination to getting banned in those days.
And Bruce Campbell is God.
Anyone see Bubba Ho-Tep yet? Bruce as Elvis battling a cowboy mummy in a nursing home? :D

g78 09-03-2005 09:12

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Lots of films were banned back then. I mean take the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for example, the film has hardly any actual gore or violence shown yet it was banned here for ages. All the stuff was implied and not shown. As for Evil Dead, I saw it once years ago. Its not that bad but I can see why back then it was banned.

pendy 09-03-2005 14:02

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Funnily enough, one of the things I found most offensive was the kids' programme on TV, The A Team.

It was full of violence, bombs, grenades, bullets flying, but in the end all the baddies were rounded up, slightly bruised, a little battered, but none the worse for virtually having World War III break out around them.

It wasn't the violence I objected to, it was the fact that it was violence without consequences - did a generation grow up thinking you could blast people with grenades and fire bullets at them, and nobody hurt? To me, that seemed far more worrying than them watching gory movies.

P.S. My daughter saw Deep Throat at a friend's house (nicked from her father's private store) at about 13, and couldn't see what all the fuss was about!

shiny gem 09-03-2005 15:33

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Anyone see Bubba Ho-Tep yet? Bruce as Elvis battling a cowboy mummy in a nursing home? :D[/QUOTE]
yeah i have!!! well most of it!!! very funny!!!

and the A team rocks!!! its just a bit of fun!!! comedy at its greatest!!!!

vorlon24 09-03-2005 16:31

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I used to love the A-Team - it was the highlight of Saturday night tv!!!

shiny gem 09-03-2005 16:34

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Originally Posted by vorlon24
I used to love the A-Team - it was the highlight of Saturday night tv!!!

i used to have a crush on face!!!! lol

vorlon24 09-03-2005 16:35

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Some of the women were quite hot - I guess it would look a bit dated now, though!

g78 09-03-2005 16:36

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Originally Posted by shiny gem
i used to have a crush on face!!!! lol

Oh dear.... how worrying this is. :p

Sparkologist 09-03-2005 16:44

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The film Evil Dead was very much tongue in cheek. The problem in those days was the Campaign for the Moral Minority, led by Mary Whitehouse, tried to impose their views on the rest of society, and deny us the chance to make up our own minds.

An equally funny horror film from the same era is George Romero's zombie film from 1979, "Dawn of the Dead". Hell's Angels with pump-action shotguns versus zombies, in a shopping mall; funny as ... :D

If you want to read more about the Banned Season on Channel 4, here is the link to their site: http://www.channel4.com/film/newsfea...ned/index.html

g78 09-03-2005 16:56

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I love Dawn of the Dead, its a classic.

rockrabbit 09-03-2005 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g78
I love Dawn of the Dead, its a classic.

the new version is better well the directors cut . shawn of the dead is class as well

g78 09-03-2005 17:04

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I liked the new version but it didnt't have that cool 70's vibe that the original has going on.

rockrabbit 09-03-2005 17:07

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Originally Posted by g78
I liked the new version but it didnt't have that cool 70's vibe that the original has going on.

they had a better sense of humour back then

p_headless_g 09-03-2005 17:08

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Originally Posted by rockrabbit
the new version is better well the directors cut . shawn of the dead is class as well

SACRELIDGE!
Shawn of the Dead was a fantastic movie, but I really didn't think too much of the remake of Dawn of the Dead. A bit too over the top for its own good and it threw away the cynical pphilosophy of Romero's movies in favour of making a quick gore movie. Not that any movie with zombies in it can ever really be a bad movie, but I can't see how it's better than the original.

g78 09-03-2005 17:13

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If you want a real gory film then you should watch Braindead. Its totally over the top and funny but extremely gory too. :s_sick:

janet 09-03-2005 17:22

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Have not heard of that one g78.

g78 09-03-2005 17:26

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Originally Posted by janet
Have not heard of that one g78.

It's either from Australia or New Zealand. It was released in the early 90's I think. Its about this guy who lives with his mum and she gets bit by a rabid monkey creature and turns into a zombie sort of thing, then the people who visit get bit and they turn into zombies too. So he keeps them in the basement. Lets say it ends up with a house full of zombies and him using a lawnmower on them. Very gory :D

rockrabbit 09-03-2005 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by p_headless_g
SACRELIDGE!
Shawn of the Dead was a fantastic movie, but I really didn't think too much of the remake of Dawn of the Dead. A bit too over the top for its own good and it threw away the cynical pphilosophy of Romero's movies in favour of making a quick gore movie. Not that any movie with zombies in it can ever really be a bad movie, but I can't see how it's better than the original.

surely with the special effects it adds to the quality of the film

p_headless_g 09-03-2005 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g78
It's either from Australia or New Zealand. It was released in the early 90's I think. Its about this guy who lives with his mum and she gets bit by a rabid monkey creature and turns into a zombie sort of thing, then the people who visit get bit and they turn into zombies too. So he keeps them in the basement. Lets say it ends up with a house full of zombies and him using a lawnmower on them. Very gory :D

New Zealand. For those who don't know, Braindead was one of Peter 'Lord of the Rings' Jackson's first movies. He keeps going on about how at some point he's going to go back and do a cheap gore movie again...

p_headless_g 09-03-2005 19:06

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Originally Posted by rockrabbit
surely with the special effects it adds to the quality of the film

Better special effects never really help improve the quality of a movie below the surface level.
Didn't help either of those new Star Wars movies, did it?

rockrabbit 09-03-2005 19:18

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Originally Posted by p_headless_g
Better special effects never really help improve the quality of a movie below the surface level.
Didn't help either of those new Star Wars movies, did it?

the new star wars are a whole new story though and not a remake as im sure war of the worlds when its released will be an improvement, fair enough evil dead wont be unless they have bruce in it again

g78 09-03-2005 19:29

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Hey no slandering of the Star Wars movies.....

keith 09-03-2005 19:33

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Important click on and look if you dare http://tinyurl.com/4yx2z

vorlon24 09-03-2005 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g78
Hey no slandering of the Star Wars movies.....

I agree - number 3 is out this year, and should be a good 'un!

p_headless_g 09-03-2005 23:14

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Originally Posted by vorlon24
I agree - number 3 is out this year, and should be a good 'un!

Should be, but I've learnt to be jaded because of the first two.
Jar Jar Binks in Ep1 and that bloody romance scene in the field in Ep2? I'm about ready to kill and eat George Lucas.

vorlon24 09-03-2005 23:19

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I wasn't keen on Jar Jar either, but you can't have it all.

This is the one where he turns to the Dark Side - that makes it unmissable!!!

-pixie 10-03-2005 06:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vorlon24
I wasn't keen on Jar Jar either, but you can't have it all.

This is the one where he turns to the Dark Side - that makes it unmissable!!!

Even I am looking forward to it. :)

lettie 10-03-2005 07:23

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Haven't seen the re-make of Dawn of the Dead, but I loved the original, thought it was dead funny and pure class. :D

janet 10-03-2005 07:44

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The remake was rubbish lettie, the original was much better.

rockrabbit 10-03-2005 09:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g78
Hey no slandering of the Star Wars movies.....

proud owner of them all including originals and the limited edition box set still thought the phantom menace was a bit of a let down but think the new one will be a big improvement

wayneyboy1942 10-03-2005 15:32

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When ch4 first started they used to show films with red triangles in the corner,they got huge ratings for some films that would normaly get five people watching,one was a film about a trade union in Russia!

Veecore 10-03-2005 17:48

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My boyfriend bought me the triology for christmas. Its ace.

g78 10-03-2005 17:52

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Star Wars rules..... I know how sad that sounds but I don't care...... Star Wars Geek and proud of it :engsmil:

vorlon24 10-03-2005 18:47

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I saw the first film in the cinema when I was 5 years old.

20 years later, and the parents were taking their 5 year olds to see it!

Mine wasn't even born then, so I couldn't!

rockrabbit 10-03-2005 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vorlon24
I saw the first film in the cinema when I was 5 years old.

20 years later, and the parents were taking their 5 year olds to see it!

Mine wasn't even born then, so I couldn't!

i remember when return of the jedi came out the flicks at brierfield where showing all 3 of them in a row so went and watched them all must have been mid 80 s or earlier when was jedi released

g78 10-03-2005 20:56

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I remember going to see Return of the Jedi, I was 5 and I remember going to Accy Cinema on Broadway and when Jabba the Hutt came onscreen I was petrified as he seemed massive. Needless to say 5 minutes later me and my mum were on our way home.

rockrabbit 10-03-2005 21:01

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Originally Posted by g78
I remember going to see Return of the Jedi, I was 5 and I remember going to Accy Cinema on Broadway and when Jabba the Hutt came onscreen I was petrified as he seemed massive. Needless to say 5 minutes later me and my mum were on our way home.

would give you stick apart form i also left half way through a film watching indiana jones and the temple of doom when they got covered in spiders and beetles :o

g78 10-03-2005 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockrabbit
would give you stick apart form i also left half way through a film watching indiana jones and the temple of doom when they got covered in spiders and beetles :o

LOL, at least mine was a big scary alien slug monster not some tiny little beetles hehe :D

rockrabbit 10-03-2005 21:06

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Originally Posted by g78
LOL, at least mine was a big scary alien slug monster not some tiny little beetles hehe :D

lol having a fear of beetles etc is very common having a fear of slimy big aliens isnt lol

shiny gem 10-03-2005 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockrabbit
would give you stick apart form i also left half way through a film watching indiana jones and the temple of doom when they got covered in spiders and beetles :o

you big softie!!! lol anything else your scared of??

rockrabbit 10-03-2005 21:11

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this maybe a good time to add it was dark in the cinema and it was also dark where indiana was getting covered in beetles :( and thats all im afraid of

shiny gem 10-03-2005 21:12

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Originally Posted by rockrabbit
this maybe a good time to add it was dark in the cinema and it was also dark where indiana was getting covered in beetles :( and thats all im afraid of

lol not even cute 22 year old, red headed lasses...who beat you all the time at pool???


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