American state may legalise hunting domestic cats!
 

America just don't mess about do they :)

Wisconsin State Journal
Hunters across the state will be asked to vote next month on whether cats should be hunted. A La Crosse man who hunts and traps wants to make free- roaming domestic cats an "unprotected species" that could be shot at will by anyone with a small-game hunting license.

Mark Smith's suggestion will be placed before hunters on April 11 at the Wisconsin Conservation Congress spring hearings in each of the state's 72 counties. Smith, a 48-year- old firefighter for the city of La Crosse, said any cat not under its owner's direct control, or which does not have a collar, should be considered fair game.

"If I'm in the woods and see a cat that doesn't have a collar, then I could shoot it," Smith said. "It gives people some leeway if they want to remove cats."

He added, "I get up in the morning and if there's new snow, there's cat tracks under my bird feeder . . . I look at them as an invasive species, plain and simple."

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/loca...=31029&ntpid=3




What do you think everyone? We have just banned hunting foxes and it looks like the American's are thinking of going the other way!

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typical. only in america. they'd all shoot us limeys given half a chance. but we're too quick witted and could escape easily.

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How big are these cat's collars going to be? And what is to stop a hunter shhoting a cat with a collar and then removing the collar? I think this is despicable......when can we declare open season on hunters?

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hell yeah i hope it catches on here

if you want your cat to be safe keep it indoors or walk it on a lead

otherwise its vermin and fair game

what can you say you either love cats or hate them

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As someone who is often kept awake by the late night yowling of neighbours cats and is inconvenienced by their using the garden as a toilet and as a witness of their depradation of the local bird population I can well understand and even applaud this development. If I permitted Acrylic-biff to cr*p where he pleased and failed to clean it up I could be fined. Similarly if he caused a noise nuisance or attacked the wildlife of the area my neighbours would be up in arms. I care enough about my dog and my responsibilities as a good neighbour not to let that happen. How come cat owners expect everyone just to swallow it and say nowt? I don't see the owners of horses out and about armed with bucket and shovel either!

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Walking a cat on a lead just isn't feasible. Cats aren't like dogs. They like to climb and jump.

Excluding cats with collars is all very well but at a distance who is going to see a collar on a long haired cat? Also, cat collars are not like dog collars. They have to be able to break away under stress because cats climb and could get caught on something. If the collar didn't break away the cat could be strangled.

How are they going to distinguish between pet cats and working farm cats who are roaming free there to keep down the mice?

Another cat related subject which surprised me when I was told - it's normal procedure over there to remove cats' claws so they don't scratch furniture.

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This is fantastic news. I shall be checking on the Wisconsin tourist wwebsite to see if they will be doing weekend mini-break cat shooting holidays.I can't wait to go!

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DOn't see why anyone is surprised - in the States they do this sort of thing. Wasn't there a case recently when one hunter shot another dead, having mistaken him for a bear? - fat chance him noticing whether a cat has a collar or not!

Check out Tom Lehrer's hunting song - he got it right!

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think how many women will be worried what their partners are upto when they tell them they are going to be late back from work because they are going out with their friends to look for some pussy :D

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Keep the claws remove the cat, then it can't go roaming free & sh*tting in your neighbours childrens sand pit!

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None of my neighbours children have sand pits. Are they deprived? Mine don't have one either. We have nowhere to put one. Is this going to affect my children's development into well rounded adults? :p

P.S. My cat is an indoor kitty. She doesn't like the big cruel world outside of Chez Willow. The furthest she has ever been is our shed.

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I'm afraid the only chance for you children to become well rounded adults would be to become well rounded children by going to America and existing on a diet of double mac d's, they can use the claws as tooth picks! (I had to add this last piece of bad taste to stay on thread otherwise Thoth would have been down on me like a ton of bricks).
:rofl38:

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But that's what cats do. It's their way of being clean, bury the mess. :D Unless it's our neighbours cat which uses one of my large plant tub thingies as its kitty litter but just leaves the deposit on top. At least I see it and can remove it.

BTW is there anything more pongy than cat pooh?

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:) It depends where it is, sometime it can be more pongy than you would normally expect. I suppose that's what you get when you garden without gloves........:o

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Cats don't pooh willow, :rolleyes: pooh is to nicer word for what they do. When they do, do doo's, doo's they S*** .:eek: Its postivly more offensive then a little "Pooh".:p

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The number of ferral cats in North America is mind boggling. On my one small crescent alone there can be group of 15-20 cats screaming and fighting all night. These are usually disposable cats left behind when people move. I love animals and while I am not a cat owner I like them but something must be done, their breeding is way out of control. The smell around our homes is awful and Humane Society will not do anything about cats. There are all kinds of laws, legislation and bans on dogs but nothing is done about cats.

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Now that foxhunting is "banned" (don't make me laugh), what about urban cat hunts? Obviously, we could'nt ride around the back streets of Accy, Church or Ossy on horseback so we'd have to follow on foot. Nevertheless, there would still be the thrill of the chase and I reckon a good pack of 20 or 30 cathounds would probably kill the same number of mangy moggys in a day. Just think - within 2 weeks we could clear the streets of Hyndburn of this pestulance and have an awful lot of fun in doing so.

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kill my cats and i kill you. capiche?

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your cat comes onto my property its fair game


dont worry about waking up with a horses head on your pillow when kittys will do fine

capiche? :D

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What is this vendetta people have against cats? I hear so much drivvel from cat-haters about how they dig plants up, mess in gardens, etc., etc., ad nauseam. I have a cat and there are lots of cats around the neighbourhood. Sure they come into my garden, much to our cat's annoyance, but they do no harm. The cat next door visits me every morning, has her chin tickled and goes home again. Our cat glares at her and looks "put out" and our dog gives one of those "Oh no, not you again" looks but my garden's fine and I am, believe me, a very keen gardener. There is the occasional bit of latrine-digging but, hell, I use a spade and a hoe or at least a trowel. I put horse manure round my roses, I'm not too worried about a bit of cat manure in the flower beds.

Most of the people I know who don't like cats haven't ever had much to do with them. Their parents didn't like cats so, well, it's what you do, innit? They little realise they are slaves to historical superstition that equated cats with witchcraft and the supernatural. They'll tell you they like children and dogs and squirrels and rabbits but, oh no, not cats.

As for the ardent bird lovers who hate cats because they kill birds, if there were no predators we would be knee-deep in birds. Oh and don't forget the mice, you'd love a few thousand of them on your property, wouldn't you? What about when you go to the zoo, or watch a wildlife programme? Mrs. Lion leaps on a pretty little gazelle (or a butchered one in the zoo). Dreadful isn't it? All lions should be killed, right? Well they're just big cats. It's all Nature, red in tooth and claw, all part of the food chain just like your bird lover when he sits down to a nice chicken dinner or a delicious bit of baby lamb.

Cats are affectionate, intelligent animals. I know, I've had cats all my life. They don't have the blind devotion of dogs. Throw a stick for a dog and he'll fetch it back because he wants to please you. Throw a stick for a cat and he says, "You threw it away, you fetch it back". But sit down by the fire with a cat and stroke his silky fur while he purrs and rubs his head on you. He loves you because he wants to, not because he is your slave. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs and I've had them all my life, too. Different species, different relationship, same affection.

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as i type this my childs ball tent is in the back yard with cat crap on it

i should be able to leave stuff in my back yard without fear of OTHER peoples pets crapping on it

if i ever get lucky enough to catch the damn cat in the act and it has a collar on it i will shove what it drops in my yard through the respective owners letter box


does that sound fair or should i just execute persistant offenders :flamethro

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Do not let children play in areas where cats and dogs go to the bathroom. Roundworm (Toxocara) larvae in cat and dog droppings can cause blindness and other health problems

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so my OWN yard is not safe for my child because people cant control their pets

source of quote

http://www.99main.com/~charlief/vi/eyesafty.html

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I have two cats.....one pedigree, one moggy.....they are both litter trained and they both use their tray.....however they do like to go out for a roam around.....but they come in from outside and go straight in their litter tray......not in someones garden.
One of my cats is long coated and you would be hard pressed to see his collar, even at close range. I would be very upset if someone were to shoot my cats for fun.

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i am refering to those cat owners who buy a cat coz their kids think they are cute and let them run wild crapping all over the place

i have had cats pee in my kitchen because i dared to leave my back door or a window open in the summer but i guess thats my own fault for wanting to be able to have my widows open on my own property how stupid of me to expect other peoples pets not to crap and pee in my home

ime sorry but if you dont want cats to be killed keep them indoors or if you must have a pet get one that dosnt insist on crapping on other peoples property

i know dogs can also offend but they are less likely to scale my yard wall to take a crap in my yard

cats are vermin the only thing keeping them been classed as vermin is that people find them cute

people say oh but cats are natural roamers well dosnt this tell you that by their own nature they are not meant to be kept as pets

i wonder how many cats these new wheelie bins can hold ...?

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My dearest Mrs Pilkington. I for one would not want to shoot at your big pussy and miss. I dread to think what it could do if it was needlessly upset, that is one monster kitty, and a beautiful one at that. I can’t really believe anyone would want to hurt it. Most of us would be to bloody frighten.

Joking aside and the same for our friends Willow, Lindsey and West Ender, I am sure that the majority of us would never want to see any harm befall such regal creatures and in our criticism we refer only to those who chose to keep a cat and show no regard for their pets or their neighbours.

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kudos to those that control their pets but ime affraid most dont :(

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I am a responsible pet owner. There are a few of us about. Like there are responsible parents and irresponsible parents. I take the ownership of my animals very seriously.
One of my cats is very large and a bit fierce looking, and though he likes to go out he rarely ventures far, and I am glad of that because he has absolutely no road sense.
My moggy rescued my hubby from very deep depression after he had a stroke, she too likes to wander but there is a bit of 'wild' in all domestic pets.

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Must have missed this thread, as I'm not allowed legally to shoot cats with bullets/pellets I have a paintball gun which is great for keeping the local vermin cats off my property. Chav and Tealeaf you really should invest in one it's great fun watching them run with an orange explosion on their fur and it's not often they come back, for extra humour when you spot one in the street with the paint marking still there it gives extra satisfaction.
I for one don't want it legalised in this country it's much more fun using a paintball gun.

Once it's on my land it's an intruder and it's fair game.

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:) My friend, I take your statement at face value and I look forward to seeing you strike foot on my land….I refer with humour to your unfortunate choice of name and avatar. :p That said, what a cracking good idea. It’s even humane

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Far from being vermin cats keep vermin away. We were plagued by mice when we had a dog. The house next door was empty and food had been left in there by the previous inhabitants mice moved in. (We finally traced the nest after we got access to the property thanks to the owner) When they ran out of food in there they invaded my house! It was a nightmare. We even borrowed a friend's cat for a day in the hope of catching them as all we did failed and even the council exterminator people couldn't get rid of the wretched things.

Once when we came back from hoilday there were oodles of them in a cupboard.

When our dog died we got a cat of our own and we haven't seen a single mouse since. I know which I prefer.

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Agreed Willow cats may have a use and they are a friend to their owners but the problem is that when they are let out to play they sometimes become a problem for other people.

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The timing on this story is almost too good to be true. The cat lovers among us should enjoy this and perhaps those of the opposite persuasion can at least appreciate the irony. The following item is from the Fox News website.

Michigan Cat Shoots Owner

BATES TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — A man cooking in his kitchen was shot after one of his cats knocked his 9mm handgun onto the floor, discharging the weapon, Michigan State Police said.

Joseph Stanton, 29, of Bates Township in Iron County, was shot in his lower torso around 6 p.m. Tuesday, the state police post in Iron River reported. He was transported to Iron County Community Hospital.

Michelle Sand, a spokeswoman at the Iron River hospital, said Stanton was treated there before being transferred to Marquette General Hospital for further treatment

But Marcie Miller, a representative of the Marquette facility, said there was no record of the hospital receiving a patient by that name.

State police said Stanton was cooking at his stove when the cat knocked the loaded gun off the kitchen counter behind him.

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see you cat killers......

i want to come to your gardens and dig them up and s*** and P*** on them and then get your heads and rub it in there.

ther is no need to kill the cats. by the way chav i don't think you'd be stopping me from s******* on your garden.

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lol

American state may lega...13-03-2005 09:15cat killer


prove it :D

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I saw that story about the man who was shot by his cat. I don't believe a word of it. I think he shot himself, by accident, or his wife did it and he's too embarrassed to admit it. Surely, if by some freak chance the trigger were activated when the gun fell, he would have been shot in the foot or leg? "Lower torso" says to me that he was cleaning it while it (or he) was loaded or he'd been playing away and his wife got her aim right. :D

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this kitty was found deliberatly messing in peoples yards then shooting his victims when they went to clean the foul creatures mess

rover until yesterday the prime suspect in these murders was quoted as saying

" i always maintaned my innocence throught my interigation but never would have thought kitty was behind them i thought our differences were behind us "

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for anyone that is actualy going to take action in eliminating cats that crap in their yards please follow the correct procedure for the removal of dead annimals or the council will not remove them

please see photo below for correct procedure

hope this helps

http://www.orangeride.com/newcontent/deadcat_box.jpg

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You don't say wether they should put it out with their wheelie bin or if it can go with the blue box for re-cycling.

:confused:

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actualy i think they get collected seperatly and distributed amongst accys finest curry houses :eek:

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I would chuck it on the compose heap myself.Just think of all those big juicey worms.Ideal for the fishing.

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Cut out the middle man just stick it on the hook.
;)

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:) Brilliant idea Less, specially if your after Catfish. :p

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I know that many of you on here live in the traditional Accy 2up/2 down terraced house and are as such are well used to the endless parade of ferral cat vermin on your backyard walls.Some of these animals may well pocess a domestic collar, their owners under the somewhat farsical fantasy that these flea-spreading, pi**ing, sh*ting, bird exterminating machines are some sort of domesticated animal. Others do not, simply living wild and interbreeding with their Whiskas-pampered cousins.

If, like me, you are unavailable most of the day to blast these little monsters away with a good .22 air rifle, may I recommend a cheap wire snare? For the cost of a few pence and 5 minutes of your time you should have no difficulty in rigging up one of these simple contraptions on your backyard wall.The good thing about them is that once the cat gets it's head entangled in the wire noose it usually panics and slips off the wall, usually slowly choking on the end of the wire. At the end of a busy day at work, it's simply a case of popping outside and cutting the wire, with said dead cat dropping into black bin liner for disposal. It should take no more than a minute to knot your new noose and attach to the top of the wall.

Simple, but effective.

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Oh yes, could we have a diagram to work off please, although I'm having fun with my paintball gun your solution does have the final say.

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I've read the posts by the cat-haters in this thread and they have confirmed that Mankind just isn't progressing at all.

What a bunch of blood-thirsty, sadistic people you are. You can't beat your wives any more and you daren't belt your children in case they sue you. Bull baiting was outlawed over a century ago and it's hard to find a venue for dog fighting. Ethnic minorities are a no-no too but you've got to have an outlet for your blood lust so, hey, let's torture the domestic cat. Well, there's always the excuse that Pussy did/has/will/messed on your lawn/strayed on your property/eaten your favourite sparrow.

The attitude of some people who have added their comments to this thread, frankly, disgusts me. I have no quarrel with anyone who chases a cat off their property. What I find offensive and sick is the attitude that says "Kill it, hurt it". No doubt you are going to come back at me with all kinds of reasons for your vicious propensities but you will only be reinforcing my impression of you as latter-day playground bullies with a predeliction for violence, finding an outlet in a small animal.

Grow up, you ignorant lot, and realise that there is no place for you in the world of rational, caring, decent people. I don't ask you to love cats but I would appeal to the less nasty side of you in understanding that a cat is a sentient being that follows its nature and feels pain just as much as you do. I wouldn't torture a disease-carrying rat in the way you, so-called, civilised human beings suggest doing to a cat.

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OK you're disgusted and you've appealled, you don't want any come back as to why so I won't, you are correct I'm a bully and the cats must be exterminated, it's the law of my property.

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Yes, but what about the pythons?

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Bagpuss, dear, I don't mind come-back. I just spoke my mind (a few posts had got "right up my nose").

I'm sure on any other subject you and I would get along great but, having done a lot of work at the RSPCA kennels/cattery, I do get rather angry at the thought of cruelty. I've seen the results.

Just had to sound off!