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PurpleLass 26-03-2005 20:54
Jamie's School Dinners
 
As a parent I am concerned about the junk that our children are being fed at lunchtime. I know it's hard to persuade kids that a carrot is tasty but it's even harder when they are allowed to eat fish fingers and chips or chicken nuggets and chips every day at school. When I was at school our lunch consisted of the very traditional meat and two veg. If you are a parent, or even a grandparent, please sign your name to Jamie Oliver's petition. He has highlighted a real issue for the future of our children - see his website about it and sign the petition on www.feedmebetter.com. Thank you.

janet 26-03-2005 21:03
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Have signed the petition purplelass. Hope it does some good.

slinky 26-03-2005 21:04
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mmmmmmmmmm IN a way I know what you are saying.......but my kids were on pack lunches at school last year, and when it got to winter I was stuck on what to send them with......I wanted something warm in side them at dinner time but that is impossible on pack lunches, but at least I knew what they were eating. Anyway after along argument with myself I decided to put them on school dinners then at least they would get a good hot meal in side them. After the first day the kids were sent home with a menu that the school offer the children and, I have to say I was quite pleased to see some good healthy things on the menu the menu is by ''HOT POT'' if anyone is familiar with this.

Doug 26-03-2005 21:06
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Job done. Thanks for the link purplelass.

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slinky
I was quite pleased to see some good healthy things on the menu the menu is by ''HOT POT'' if anyone is familiar with this.
There are some good healthy things on the menu at my kids school but there is also some junk too! Most schools offer kids a choice - now you ask your kids what they are most likely to choose - hot pot or chicken nuggets and chips. My friend is a teacher, her school always has salad on the menu. Each day they make five salads, my friend eats one of them, one kid eats another and they throw three away.

West Ender 26-03-2005 21:11
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I've signed it. As the grandparent of a 19 year old who recoils in horror from any form of healthy vegetable (he's 6'3 and as thin as a stick but I dread to contemplate the state of his arteries) it really concerns me. My 5 year old granddaughter asks for carrot sticks and cheese as a treat, adores cucumber and tomatoes and has recently "discovered" lettuce - but with the prevalence of fast food these days, how long will this last?

It's time to re-educate the children - and their parents - where food is concerned.

slinky 26-03-2005 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleLass
There are some good healthy things on the menu at my kids school but there is also some junk too! Most schools offer kids a choice - now you ask your kids what they are most likely to choose - hot pot or chicken nuggets and chips. My friend is a teacher, her school always has salad on the menu. Each day they make five salads, my friend eats one of them, one kid eats another and they throw three away.

mmmmmmmm I didn't say thay had HOT POT i said the menu is made by a company called ''HOT POT'' which caters healthy meals and yes salad is high on the menu, just looking at it salad on the menu ever day, and not many chips on the menu.

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:16
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Originally Posted by slinky
mmmmmmmm I didn't say thay had HOT POT i said the menu is made by a company called ''HOT POT'' which caters healthy meals and yes salad is high on the menu, just looking at it salad on the menu ever day, and not many chips on the menu.
Sorry, missed the Hot pot thing. But can you be absolutely sure they always pick the good things on the menu.

grego 26-03-2005 21:17
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Signed the petition Purplelass, I do try to give my daughter healthy dinners, though the chicken nugget/chips option is very quick to do, only give in to it once or twice a week though. I dont think schools have any excuse for serving that though.

jason 26-03-2005 21:17
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Nothing wrong with the dinners at my middle eldest' school,different everyday and all the teachers have the dinners as well.
I think that he highlighted a few schools or menus and just exploited them...not all school dinners are bad.
I used to have sausage and chips practically everyday at secondary school and was still good at sport,was a good weight and competed in weightlifting competitions for 2 years (weightlifted for 6)
I admit i'm overweight now but that is down to consuming too much beer at university and never stopping,but i still work hard......what am i waffling on about...shut up jason!

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:19
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Originally Posted by grego
Signed the petition Purplelass, I do try to give my daughter healthy dinners, though the chicken nugget/chips option is very quick to do, only give in to it once or twice a week though. I dont think schools have any excuse for serving that though.
Totally agree it's really hard with kids. I've managed to convince mine that breaded chicken breasts and breaded fish fillets are big chicken nuggets and big fish fingers. I know it's not fantastic but it's a start.

jason 26-03-2005 21:19
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BTW i've signed the petition......i like to get around!

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
Nothing wrong with the dinners at my middle eldest' school,different everyday and all the teachers have the dinners as well.
I think that he highlighted a few schools or menus and just exploited them...not all school dinners are bad.
I used to have sausage and chips practically everyday at secondary school and was still good at sport,was a good weight and competed in weightlifting competitions for 2 years (weightlifted for 6)
I admit i'm overweight now but that is down to consuming too much beer at university and never stopping,but i still work hard......what am i waffling on about...shut up jason!
Yes, shut up Jason.... just joking. Some kids can live healthily on sausage and chips but let's face it, it's not really a balanced diet is it?

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
BTW i've signed the petition......i like to get around!
Thank you, and thanks to everyone else who's signed already. Every little helps as they say!

jason 26-03-2005 21:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleLass
Yes, shut up Jason.... just joking. Some kids can live healthily on sausage and chips but let's face it, it's not really a balanced diet is it?
I agree,and i make sure that my kids eat wisely,but i dont stop the junk food completely as it is not every single day.
Meals in this house consist of....

Homemade spag bol
Homemeade sausage casserole (sausages grilled first)
Homemade sheperds pie
Homemade sunday roast dinner (pork,lamb,beef or chicken etc)
Homemade waldorf salad.......or fresh leaf salad.
Frozen meal (maybe once a week)
mac d's (maybe once a week)
Plus other meals,but these are the main.

I do all my meals myself........as a single dad looking after 3 girls,and i think i do ok!

slinky 26-03-2005 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
I agree,and i make sure that my kids eat wisely,but i dont stop the junk food completely as it is not every single day.
Meals in this house consist of....

Homemade spag bol
Homemeade sausage casserole (sausages grilled first)
Homemade sheperds pie
Homemade sunday roast dinner (pork,lamb,beef or chicken etc)
Homemade waldorf salad.......or fresh leaf salad.
Frozen meal (maybe once a week)
mac d's (maybe once a week)
Plus other meals,but these are the main.

I do all my meals myself........as a single dad looking after 3 girls,and i think i do ok!
yes I agree you do well jason and, you will find that fresh home made meals are cheaper to make than frozen meals. you get more out of one meal if home made.

jason 26-03-2005 21:33
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That is so true.....and the kids appreciate it more because they have seen the effort you have put in.
It makes it all worthwhile!

slinky 26-03-2005 21:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
That is so true.....and the kids appreciate it more because they have seen the effort you have put in.
It makes it all worthwhile!
Home cooked meals are far better than something than has been sat in a freezer for 10 month anyway.

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
I do all my meals myself........as a single dad looking after 3 girls,and i think i do ok!
I wasn't getting at you personally. You seem to give them a varied menu, it's the schools that I'm talking about.

jason 26-03-2005 21:39
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Oh i know that P.L..........i was just making my point (and looking for sympathy....lol)

slinky 26-03-2005 21:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleLass
I wasn't getting at you personally. You seem to give them a varied menu, it's the schools that I'm talking about.
No i think jason was pointing out that if he can find the time as a single parent then schools should find it even easier.

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slinky
No i think jason was pointing out that if he can find the time as a single parent then schools should find it even easier.
A lot of it is down to budget. I pay £1.60 per day for my kid's lunch. That has to be divided between ingredients, overheads and staffing. I pay over £3 a day for my own lunch (a sandwich or a salad), I'd quite happily pay more for my kid's health. Plus, it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fill them up so much. I prepare fairly good meals at night but because she's filled up with junk at lunch she won't eat the good stuff I prepare.

Doug 26-03-2005 21:46
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Good for you Jason, maybe next time I'm over Colne way a few of us could come to lunch. Many respects to you for your efforts Jason, I know a lot of people that wouldn't make the effort.

jason 26-03-2005 21:47
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The meals at my daughter' schools are...........

Eldest,secondary........ £1.70 - £2.00

Middle eldest.............. £1.50

Youngest....................Starts in august

jason 26-03-2005 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug
Good for you Jason, maybe next time I'm over Colne way a few of us could come to lunch. Many respects to you for your efforts Jason, I know a lot of people that wouldn't make the effort.
Welcome anytime......i love cooking!;)

PurpleLass 26-03-2005 21:48
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Again, I'm not getting at you personally Jason - stop going for the sympathy vote! Perhaps we can start a recipe thread.

jason 26-03-2005 21:49
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Originally Posted by PurpleLass
Again, I'm not getting at you personally Jason - stop going for the sympathy vote! Perhaps we can start a recipe thread.
LOL............That would be a good idea!

Busman747 26-03-2005 23:56
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I am slightly confused by my step-daughter-to be's comments about school meals. She goes to Moorhead school and pays her money each week which gets put onto a credit card.

According to her, the main meals have gone by the time she gets to the school canteen and all that is left is junk food or Indian which she hates. She also says that "proper" meals are put aside for the teachers.........I have mixed views on this, is it a teenager who is too fastidious over what she eats? or is what she says the truth and she has very little choice in her dinner selection!

With Willows permission, I would like to look into this further especially as top price seems to be paid with no allowance for any discount through government subsidy!
Does any other parent have the same problem?

jason 27-03-2005 00:04
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My eldest goes to primet high in colne and they have a card where you credit it,as and when......obviously a monday or as and when we can afford.......I can ask my daughter later when she gets up if she has the same trouble.
I would suggest contacting the school and finding out exactly what is going on,that is what i do at the earliest opportunity!!

WillowTheWhisp 27-03-2005 00:07
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Just as a follow-up to that. My youngest daughter still goes to Primary School until the end of this school year. The meals there cost £1.50 per day (that is for those of us who actually pay - there are a heck of a lot who get them free for various reasons) paid by me on a weekly basis.

The older one at Moorhead takes £2.00 a day for her "credit card" but ends up with far less to eat than her younger sister. Some pupils spend £3.00 a day there. I do not believe it should be so. I believe that they should be able to obtain a decent meal for the same price as the ones who go to a school which operates the conventional system.

-pixie 27-03-2005 05:58
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If you don't offer junk food as a choice, a child has not got the choice to eat junk. My 16 month old lad loves fresh fruit and veg. He wouldn't know what a Happy Meal is because I have never taken him to McDonalds - even I don't eat there. Its not a treat for kids really when you look at the amount of fat and the unhygenic way things are cooked there.
I intend to start early on encouraging him to eat healthily as I don't want to have him turn six and be dragging him off to weight watchers. He has treats in the form of chocolate etc but they are in moderation. I see kids that expect a bar of chocolate bought for them every time they leave the house and its disgusting.

wayneyboy1942 27-03-2005 11:48
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I've sighned it purplelass, I think kids should get a proper meal at school,it could be the only cooked meal they get!:( Is it alright for me to put it on Burnley web? as I know people may want to sighn up on there as well?

PurpleLass 27-03-2005 12:31
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Originally Posted by wayneyboy1942
Is it alright for me to put it on Burnley web? as I know people may want to sign up on there as well?
Yes, of course it's all right, spread the word please. And actually you've made a good point about it being the only good meal that kids have in a day. Earlier in the thread we digressed a bit about the food that kids get at home and how responsible parents do try to feed their kids less junk these days (talking about you here Jason). Some kids aren't lucky enough to have home cooked meals every evening so it's even more important to get school lunches right. Thanks for your help wayneyboy1942

chav1 27-03-2005 12:36
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there was a film released a short while ago called supersize me about a man who eats nothing but mcdonalds for 1 month

if people who feed their kids mcdonalds constantly watched this movie and what it did to this at first top shape in health man they would probably never go mcdonalds again

PurpleLass 27-03-2005 12:42
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Originally Posted by chav1
there was a film released a short while ago called supersize me about a man who eats nothing but mcdonalds for 1 month

if people who feed their kids mcdonalds constantly watched this movie and what it did to this at first top shape in health man they would probably never go mcdonalds again

I agree, although I'm not against junk food per se. I frequent McDs and KFC myself. The guy who did supersize me had a very restricted diet for a month - if someone was to eat only carrots for a month they'd probably turn orange so it wasn't particularly fair film. Everything is ok in moderation. The issue is that some kids don't get the balance and that's because they eat junk at home and then the same at school. We can't influence what parents feed their kids at home but we can influence what they're fed at school.

chav1 27-03-2005 12:52
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but like he said in the film there are people who only eat mcdonalds or mcdonalds and other fast food

they also popinted out that the new mcdonalds healthy options were worse than the bugers lol

if it wasnt true the film would have not have been allowed or at the very least he would have been sued

all that happened was that mcdonalds no longer do the supersize meals i gues it was damage limitation by mcdonalds

i also eat mcdonalds but not very often , i would say 2 bacon cheese burgers every 3 weeks or so

grannyclaret 27-03-2005 12:53
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signed and delivered

park381 27-03-2005 13:22
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Yep, signed.


On the subject of school dinners, I think cut backs in budgets and staffing levels have played a great part in the quality of meals on offer. Old days there was alway delivery of fresh produce to the school kitchens, but now most of it is frozen, and the kitchens use regen ovens.
With the sec/high schools I think local chippys do very well at lunch time, they do in ossy anyway, always full.

jason 27-03-2005 13:27
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I will also post the link on Max and Paddy as well............I never take the kids to mac d's more than once every 1-2 weeks,My menu earlier in this thread was just what my kids normally eat.
You cant stop them eating what they want when they get older,if they want to sneak off to mac d's when they go down town with their mates then they will do it,i did when i was 13-14.
We need to install about healthy eating from an early age like pixie said earlier.
I do mac d's as a treat for when they have been good,they at least deserve something different than dads cooking!
lol

Sara 27-03-2005 14:37
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Have signed it too.

My daughter goes to Mount Carmel and only has a school dinner once a week. The rest of the time she has packed lunch. The reason why she only has a school dinner once a week is because on that particular day they get to go into the dining room first, therefore they have a good choice. The rest of the tweek by the time they get to go in, there is only junk and rubbish left.

wayneyboy1942 27-03-2005 16:33
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I've put the link on Burnley web purplelass,I hope it does some good! kids if you don't want a body like mine eat your greens!!!;) :D

lindsay ormerod 27-03-2005 17:02
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Peel Park have the "Hotpot"menu too;I think it's a county council thing.My daughter quite liked most of choices but got bored and is now back on packed lunches.The good thing about them is the dining room staff make the kids put everything back in their lunch box so you can see what they have eaten or not!School dinners have just gone up as well;now £8 a week.

Bazf 27-03-2005 17:26
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3567529.stm

park381 27-03-2005 17:52
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Originally Posted by Bazf
Would be an alternative to the chav uniform :D

jason 27-03-2005 17:55
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oh no...............is this the new advertising campaign for mac d's??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...dsfatty203.jpg

PurpleLass 27-03-2005 18:08
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That's ten of us signed in less than a day - thanks everyone. Plus, thanks to you for adding it to other forums, the more the merrier.

lindsay ormerod 27-03-2005 19:09
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My daughter says that most of the dishes on the menus are fairly tasteless;perhaps the stuff is just too bland for the kids.I don't think kids get to taste enough spicy/herby foods and thats partly why they smother everything in ketchup!

park381 27-03-2005 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod
My daughter says that most of the dishes on the menus are fairly tasteless;perhaps the stuff is just too bland for the kids.I don't think kids get to taste enough spicy/herby foods and thats partly why they smother everything in ketchup!
Think they may, if Jamie's school dinners get off the ground :D

jason 30-03-2005 09:32
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JAMIE HANDS IN PETITIONhttp://www.sky.com/x/x.gifhttp://Celebrity TV chef Jamie Olive... <br /> <br />But the Government insisted the timing was pure co-incidence.

Mr Oliver's 'Feed Me Better' internet petition was signed by 271,677 people.

Before handing it in, he told reporters he wanted to see the amount spent on primary school dinners increased from 37p to 50p.

To provide secondary school children with a proper nutritional meal, the amount needed was 60p, he said.

Ms Kelly has promised to meet both these demands.

Mr Oliver responded: "It's 20 years too late, but we're talking about the right sort of money."

His petition also calls for qualifications for dinner ladies and more time for catering staff to prepare meals.

It was raised after a TV series in which Mr Oliver exposed the poor quality of school dinners.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/jamie.1.gif

accymel 30-03-2005 11:00
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The government have offered another £280m towards school meals. Which is over 3 years. Equates to about £3.50 extra per child per year, or less than 10p a week or 2p per day. Big fat hairy deal! And they think it's going to be an vote-grabber for parents!

accymel 30-03-2005 11:05
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Its so commendable what Jamie is doing n im glad for it cos its something that has been overlooked for a long time n getting worse till he stepped in n has even made me look at myself as a parent [oh dear bad un but least i dont do the turkey sisslers n nuggets cos they are yuk lol] Tho hopefully food in supermarkets n products will be looked into cos a lot of the ingredients are additives n preservatives which is harmful in big doses n is contributory to ADD & ADHD n it is true that cutting down on even E numbers makes a diff to behaviour tho finding some stuff on budget rare again hopefully this will be looked at.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason
JAMIE HANDS IN PETITIONhttp://www.sky.com/x/x.gifCelebrity TV chef Jamie Oliver has delivered a petition to Downing Street calling for better food standards in schools.

It came as Education Secretary Ruth Kelly prepared to unveil a £280m package to improve the quality of school meals.



But the Government insisted the timing was pure co-incidence.

Mr Oliver's 'Feed Me Better' internet petition was signed by 271,677 people.

Before handing it in, he told reporters he wanted to see the amount spent on primary school dinners increased from 37p to 50p.

To provide secondary school children with a proper nutritional meal, the amount needed was 60p, he said.

Ms Kelly has promised to meet both these demands.

Mr Oliver responded: "It's 20 years too late, but we're talking about the right sort of money."

His petition also calls for qualifications for dinner ladies and more time for catering staff to prepare meals.

It was raised after a TV series in which Mr Oliver exposed the poor quality of school dinners.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/jamie.1.gif

PurpleLass 03-04-2005 10:47
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When I first posted this thread, Jamie's campaign had 249,000 signatures on it. Four days later when he presented his petition to the Prime Minister he had 271,000 signatures on it. Thanks to everyone who took part.

Margaret Pilkington 03-04-2005 21:06
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What would really make a difference would be giving kids in school cookery lessons...........It is going to take a generation for any improvements to have any impact on the health of the nation.

Most schools now do not have their own kitchens...when I was at school the food was cooked on the premises.......from fresh produce........that is what should be aimed for.


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