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sorry if this conflicts with any beliefs about karma or raises already talked about subjects but i realised a flaw today with the karma system

i watched my partner who is also an accy webber deduct karma from somone today and been the decent person she is she sighned it

now heres the interesting bit..

as i watched this process i said to her " hey you better not stick my name on there " jokingly but then it dawned on me that there were no measures to ensure that she didnt

i have heard well i mean i have read others mention that it would be a good idea to have the persons identity shown when both giving and deducting karma which would eliminate this from happening

yes i know sometimes i think too much lol but its my nature to notice things like that lol


please feel free to delete if inappropiate

i guess even when sighned we dont know for sure who did it lol

i would like to add ime not trying to tell people how things should be run ime just pointing out my observation as i have read a few topics about karma and people not sighning it but at the end of teh day it dosnt realy matter if they sighn it or not because of the reason above

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We have already banned 1 member for falsely signing karma. If anyone does falsely sign it then they risk being banned.

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Can we not have a vote on the whole anonymity issue? I really think if you decide to deduct karma from someone you should big enough[and mature enough!] to have your name next to it.

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The mods find it too much fun to change the karma system. Roy stated that here

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I have to agree with you lindsay. I had karma taken the other day, fine, that really doesn't bother me, people are entitled to there own opinion but, I would like to know who gave or deducted karma off me. At least then you can put your point across.

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I'm sure if the mods wished to do so they could tweek the system so it automatically showed who had given, or deducted, Karma. However, my own observations are that Karma is seldom deducted for sensible reasons ie. someone being insulting or coming out with racist remarks etc. Usually, it is deducted because someone does not agree with the point of view put forward. I have had them deducted for "Having a dig at Liverpool F.C." also someone deducted karma because I had ventured that a point of view I was putting forward may mean that I could lose some. "Only because you told us to" was the inane narrative. So, really, having access to the 'deductors' would probably only promote a tit for tat situation with the victim then going in and deducting some in return. All a waste of time really. Personally, I have never deducted Karma from anyone.

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yeah but if the name is added with the karma it may make people think twice about deducting karma for childish reasons etc

anyway i didnt start the thread to say how things should be run i was just pointing out what i noticed lol

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:D They try to do that already thinking they have worked out who deducted theirs. I got titted once when I'd never even tatted!!

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And it would stop people from pretending it was from someone else.

Maybe a poll should be set up to get peoples' feelings on this

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the tit for tat game would have to be played verry carefully lol

if i was to start a tit for tat with willow i would be up crap creek because i could deduct 2 but she could hit back by deducting 8 from me lol

nice lady btw :D

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i had 3 karma taken just once (anon of course )for saying what i thought about spam ,i would have had more respect for that person if they had signed their name ,,now if that person reads this they will take it off again ...:p but who cares ,,,,,.

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I'd like to give you some karma Chav because you have a partner! lf l find out who she is[ l might already as l recently had karma deducted signed by a lady,] l'll give her some as well, as l think she really is more entitled to a gold medal for putting up with you. :)

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I just had another thought about Karma.

Some people have the power to award more karma than others, so I thought it would be a good idea to be able to award up to your maximum.

So, for example, Willow (sorry to pick on you!) could award anything from 1 to 8 points inclusive, depending on how worthy she felt the post was, instead of a blanket 8 points each time.

I don't know how feasible this is, but as I said, it's only a suggestion

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hohum, here we go again! Karma - without a doubt my absolute total favourite feature of accyweb. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it - It is staying as it is. I love these threads, I love karma, it gives you all something to get at each other about and it gives the people who realise it isn't anything to be taken serious a chance to sit behind there screen and grin. The world has religion, and we will always argue about that, but we don't have religion here, we have something even better - The Evil/Good Karma System. :)

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Thanks for your reply Roy;you are very patient with us all squabbling like little kids! It's just so annoying when the same imbecile keeps doing it and thinks I don't know who they are!

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The thing you've got to remember about Karma is that what goes around, comes around... ;)

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roy have you heard the song karma by john lennon.....he was a very peacefull man.not like these accywebbers....lol..

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That was the sort of reply I was expecting Roy :)

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A nice touch might be the amount of karma you lost/gained in the list in you control panel.

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It would be a nice touch, but also it would give people extra leads to the taker/giver, and we wouldn't be wanting that. I suggest writing a program on your computer that interogates the accyweb server every minute or so and gets your karma total. This way you could have all that data and cross reference it with the time/date of karma given/taken thus using your own detective skills to find the culprit :)

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Blimey Roy;I can't even get all the text on screen at the moment let alone complex stuff like that!

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Is that what the power means then ie the amount of power you have is the amount of karma you can give? Dont want to appear daft, is that a stupid question?

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You're not daft grego - I didn't know that either!!! I think karma should stay anoymous (unless you choose to sign). I do believe you should always try to give a reason for good/bad karma - it lets people know where you think they went right/wrong.

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I worked some stuff out by doing similar. It says which thread you're being karma'd from so by looking at what power karma people have who've been posting on that thread it's more or less easy to work out who gave or deducted the karma. Haven't tried deducting any yet because no matter how much I disagree with someone I still think they have a right to an opinion.

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hey Willow;it's a big screen but some people's post just go missing off the end! All those after you posted on this thread were fine but it seems to be just random ones that lose the last word in every sentence! And I have tried the bar thing at bottom,it makes no difference!

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I tried to make sure my two signature banners weren't wider than the minimum width of the board. At their original sizes they would have been so I shrunk them a bit. On my screen I actually have a lot of space at the left side of them but if I shrink the board width to the point just before the sidebar overlaps the white they just about fit.

Sometimes if I do that and people have posted a large photo it sends the text off the end.

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What if the person who gave/took karma did not post in the thread?

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On Burnleyweb you can see who has given you bad or good karma.
A good idea in my opinion.
At least the person has to be honest about why they are giving good or bad karma as they cannot hide.
I've had bad karma on Burnleyweb,just like here,but at least i know who it was and didn't take offence........and i haven't done anything back to that person as he will know its me.
That is the best thing about seeing who has given it you......they/you cannot hide.

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Exactly same thing happens for me as well ive just got firefox and it doesnt do it on that so i think it must be a setting in IE thats doing it????

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oh dear now i have egg on my face ,,,,,,,,,,
someone has given me karma (anon)thankyou very much ,but i wish i knew who it was ,,,its like when you have a present under the xmas tree,you shake it and prod it but you dont know what itis ,,,,,,:confused:

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l have the same problem as Lindsay, isn't she the lucky one. On every thread Willow has posted in l have to scan across the screen to read the text. This has only happened in the last week or so. l thought it was just my laptop, l'm glad l'm not alone.

Re: Karma. Roy said that karma is staying as an integral part of Accy Web, and he enjoys the mischief it causes as do l, but it seems a bit unfair to ban someone because they altered someones karma and signed it with someone elses name. This seems more like extreme mischief making and not worth a banning, and no l have never done it!!! :)

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If my posts are the ones causing you problems I'll change the layout of my signature. Can you tell me if it still happens after I've done this? I don't know how many people it happens to and I did actually try to ensure that the two images wouldn't stretch beyond the width of the board so I'm puzzled that this has been happening. I only need to scroll across when someone has posted a large photo which isn't very often.

This applies with either Firefox or IE.

Can I ask those of you who needed to scroll if you'll look at the words at the top of the page where it says "HOME FORUM ASFC ACCYCHAT ARCADE JOURNAL GALLERY". Do those words sit neatly within the blue bar or do they bunch up with most of them sitting on top of the bar and only the last one or two within the bar?

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Willow this ones fine!!!!!!!!

Thank you, xxxxxxxxxxx

You've saved me going cross eyed!

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Oh I'm so glad. :) I'll work within that minimum range as my maximum from now on.

How does that toolbar thingy look from where you are Garinda?

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Garinda I am guessing your screen resolution is set fairly low, maybe 800x600. Right click on the desktop and click properties, then click settings on the Display Properties window. The resolution is shown in the bottom left hand side.

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Garinda isn't the only one Neil. I think Lindsay was the first person to mention it. If I squish mine up so that my banners/buttons side by side were too wide then I got the text in the blue toolbar all out of place as well.

I've reverted back to non squished but remembering not to go wider with anything for the sake of those who remain squished.

:jam1: :hippy: :jam1:

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I think that Lindsay will have the same problem due to her screen resolution being set low. It means you don't have much screen width, irrespective of the monitors physical size.

I dont know what physical size monitors Lindsay and Garinda have.

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Oh l don't know? About the same size as a portable tv, 14 inches?

lt's just an ordinary lap top, l just know it's fine again now thanks.

Does size matter?

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When it comes to monitors, it certainly does for me!

I have a 17" flat screen, and it makes a lot of difference, especially when I am playing games

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How do you find the flat screen when playing fast moving 'if it moves kill it' type games. My wife would like a flat screen but I am to impressed with the quality of my 21" CRT. It is amazingly heavy though.

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I play GTAIII and Vice City.

On both games I have the highest available graphics settings.

I can't fault the monitor at all. I took the frame rate limiter off on Vice City, but the graphics card couldn't quite handle it - there was the odd occasion where the action paused for a split second, but that was down to the card, and not the monitor.

I thought my crt screen was fine - that was quite big as well, but my new screen is much nicer looking, and the graphics are much crisper and more clearly defined. I am sure you would notice an improvement.

I used to have to sit almost with my nose to the screen, but I can position it further away now, due to the space saving.

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Thanks a lot mate. :rolleyes:

You were supposed to say it was a pile of poo by comparison.
When she reads this she will be forcing me to get out the plastic :D

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OK, it's a pile of poo by comparison.

The crt screen, that is!!! :D

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I have followed Neil's tip to adjust my resolution and it's amazing!The resolution was set low and now it's up full whack,my screen is a 14" flat screen [Mermaid ventura if it helps!]and now all the text fits on! Hurrah!

Karma coming your way Neil!:)

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Oh go on;be a devil!;)

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