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Dean 14-04-2005 21:00

Being charged for marching on St George's Day
 
this is scandalas.... i am with the scout's and find it disgracefull that the councle are charging us to march on the day of our saint is this another scam to gain money???????


are they going to charge for us to march on rememberance sunday as well????????

Neil 14-04-2005 21:19

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Can you explain a bit more please Dean so we understand better

Busman747 14-04-2005 21:23

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Exactly who is being charged, by whom ...and for what reason Dean? Is the march organised by the Scout movement, the district or just one troop and are the church involved ie: Does the march terminate at a church?

This is something I have never come across before and I wonder if it is even legal to charge an organisation for a march.

Tell the council (H.B.C.??) that it is NOT a march but a demonstration by a minority group complaining about the lack of respect shown to St. George!! You might get a grant from the community fund then instead of paying out:rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 14-04-2005 21:28

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Come on Dean;give us the details.My daughter's Brownie Pack have marched on several occasions like this and never been charged to my knowledge>

WillowTheWhisp 14-04-2005 21:38

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Yes please explain more Dean. How on earth can they charge you for marching? Is it supposed to cover costs of policing the route or something?

Neil 14-04-2005 21:56

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We scared him off in chat. :D

lindsay ormerod 14-04-2005 21:57

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This is very interesting;having been in Venture Scouts and little one is a Brownie,I have heard nothing about this!

Neil 14-04-2005 21:58

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It is a money making scam for Peter Britcliffe's County Councillor campaign.

WillowTheWhisp 14-04-2005 22:02

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Maybe he's trying to raise enough so they can afford to take the Christmas lights down.

Busman747 14-04-2005 22:06

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Originally Posted by Neil
We scared him off in chat. :D

Don't worry Dean, if you are right, it is quite scandalous and if you misheard a conversation or maybe mis-understood, no harm done:cool: We all like to get our hackles up given the chance,especially against the H.B.C. :D

Acrylic-bob 15-04-2005 06:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean
this is scandalas.... i am with the scout's and find it disgracefull that the councle are charging us to march on the day of our saint is this another scam to gain money???????


are they going to charge for us to march on rememberance sunday as well????????

Clearly Dean has not won his spelling badge yet.

Seriously though, this probably has more to do with the council wishing to avoid paying the police to shepherd the parade through our busy, bustling town centre. One would think that the council would be falling over themselves to encourage organisations such as the Scouts which help keep the little darlings occupied and out of trouble. Or perhaps it is felt that such a blatant display of nationalism might upset the sensibilities of our ethnic bretheren and so every effort is being made to discourage the parade.

Dean 15-04-2005 06:15

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thank's for that bob and i'm proud of it

Dean 15-04-2005 06:26

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sorry i couldn't reply last night i was in bed ready for getting up at 5.40 this morning

i'm not fully sure wat is going on but i have heared that this year we are not going to march we are just walking it to the church for the service there seem's no point in traveling to the location of the march (i don't know where it is this year) for just a church sevice. all i have heared is that the council in that area are charging the scout group as the Nothern West Section's to march on the road and i find this awfull esp. as i am ment to be gaining the highest award in scouts on this day (THE ST GEORGE AWARD) whiuch i have worked very hard for.

i think the council are charging us for police patrol???????

don't know wat for they only stop traffic but if we're walking on tyhe road in the first place traffic is going to stop any way

hope that's some help if u want to know more just ask, but i'll be away untill monday as i'm not in college all today and not in college all weekend so can't be fully accessible to the net.

will try get on at home though

DEAN

Dean 15-04-2005 06:27

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
Maybe he's trying to raise enough so they can afford to take the Christmas lights down.

May be LOL

WillowTheWhisp 15-04-2005 06:57

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I presume that even if you are marching along the road and traffic is waiting behind you, you will also need to cross other roads and perhaps the police stop traffic at such points so that you get chance to get across all in one.

We had an experience at the last Carnival crossing Eastgate going up Whalley Road. We just got across in fits and starts and had to rush to catch up with each other which was quite a challenge for people playing instruments. It was an absolutely roasting hot day too which didn't help. The group we were in was quite far back and the cumulative effect of all this "catch up dashing" meant that we ended up charging up Whalley Road at full tilt and by the time we got to the hospital it's a wonder we weren't admitted!

Neil 15-04-2005 07:31

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Originally Posted by Dean
i think the council are charging us for police patrol???????

I dont think it will be the council.
As far as I know HBC does not fund the Police.

garinda 15-04-2005 08:22

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Well done for your Award Dean, congratulations.

In response to A-b's attempt at humour, if Dean feels too afraid to post because of spelling, as one of our younger members l think thats a shame. Calling the scouts 'little darlings' also seems off the wall? Lots of us have berated the younger generation's lack of interest in the community at large so it seems a bit off to critisise Dean's scouting.


Thick skinned Rindy, whoses spelling/grammar is sometimes off the wall- but who doesn't give a damn. :)

vorlon24 15-04-2005 08:31

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Clearly Dean has not won his spelling badge yet.

Seriously though, this probably has more to do with the council wishing to avoid paying the police to shepherd the parade through our busy, bustling town centre. One would think that the council would be falling over themselves to encourage organisations such as the Scouts which help keep the little darlings occupied and out of trouble. Or perhaps it is felt that such a blatant display of nationalism might upset the sensibilities of our ethnic bretheren and so every effort is being made to discourage the parade.

Nor have you, A-b.

Only one, but what's sauce for the goose...

Neil 15-04-2005 08:32

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Originally Posted by garinda
Thick skinned Rindy, whoses spelling/grammar is sometimes off the wall- but who doesn't give a damn. :)

Well said my friend. My spelling and grammer is not always perfect. Often due to getting my fingers tied in nots, it does not and will not stop me expressing my views :D

Doug 15-04-2005 08:45

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If by chance theirs a non issue and I’ve picked up the wrong end of the stick, I would like to apologise unreservedly now…………..if not then Dean, neither be worried nor put off by your spelling. It’s something you can work on if theirs a real issue. We have to take in to account that you maybe rushing and making errors or you might just not give a S***.

Just to make a point. Generally I have to write everything in word first because I can’t spell. I do have a problem but it hasn’t really stopped me. I’m 45; I earn a large income sitting at this computer writing important documents. I’ve had to learn other skills to compensate, but I do very well. I think the point I’m making is there is always ways around situations. Never be afraid to seek help and advise and be proud of who you are. We can’t all be eloquent spellers, writers or conversationalist.

Acrylic-bob 15-04-2005 08:49

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Originally Posted by vorlon24
Nor have you, A-b.

Only one, but what's sauce for the goose...

BU**ER! That'll teach me.

Dean 16-04-2005 21:58

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can we stick to the point it's not HBC it's the Law it has recently changed and we have to pay any extra 500 quid public liability to march on the road for 30 min

i was wondering if anyone knew who i could write to to get more info on why this is happening.

keep posting on the subject thank's DEAN

Bagpuss 16-04-2005 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean
can we stick to the point it's not HBC it's the Law it has recently changed and we have to pay any extra 500 quid public liability to march on the road for 30 min

I bet they wouldn't charge if it was a muslim day march, as Busman said in an earlier post, "Tell the council (H.B.C.??) that it is NOT a march but a demonstration by a minority group. You might get a grant from the community fund then instead of paying out".

Doug 16-04-2005 23:26

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It’s just another “Nanny State” paranoia trip, trip being the key word. Public Liability Insurance is requiresd to indemnify HBC should one of you get a little boisterous and trip over a raised kerb stone and hurt yourself, or possibly to prevent undue claims against HBC should one of you be run over by a speeding taxi out side of the Town Hall.

Dean. I beg your forgiveness if I sound condescending, however the truth of the matter is that no local authority wants to take a “normal” risk anymore. Unless that is, you are prepared to cough up a nice lump sum to pay for any lumps that you are your mates might acquire. It’s sad, but it’s true.

Dean 18-04-2005 09:05

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maybe but we already have payed our insurance and Public Liability Insurance so why do we have to pay more????

Acrylic-bob 18-04-2005 10:29

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Just a thought, have you considered asking the council??
If I remember rightly, you said that your mum works for HBC, why not get her on the job.

wayneyboy1942 18-04-2005 11:48

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If you think that's harsh what about this one! Over here in Cleveleys we have a group of painters who show off their pictures to the public by hanging them on the seawall near the beach huts,they were told they must now have over £4 million in injury cover just in case of a claim! They have had to get help from private sponsors to carry on! We,ve gone from the "We'll fight them on the beach's" to "We'll sue them on the beach's" it's a sad sighn of the times!:(

Dean 18-04-2005 12:24

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Just a thought, have you considered asking the council??
If I remember rightly, you said that your mum works for HBC, why not get her on the job.

when did i say that?????

well she's not she's a midwife far far away from the council

Dean 18-04-2005 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wayneyboy1942
We,ve gone from the "We'll fight them on the beach's" to "We'll sue them on the beach's" it's a sad sighn of the times!:(


i know it's ridicule.........................

Acrylic-bob 18-04-2005 13:12

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My mistake, I had you confused with someone else - sorry!


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