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quickjet71 22-09-2008 20:09
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Just moved into area and taken over at the Calder, and wondered if anyone had any view about the pub i just taken over

cashman 22-09-2008 20:12
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probably one of the "Few" with n even money chance.

emamum 22-09-2008 20:12
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would be much better if we could take the kids in to eat......good food nice place but a shame kids cant have any.

lindsay ormerod 22-09-2008 20:14
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Used to use at least twice a week but then it had a bit of a refit and the food wasn't as good , plus it was getting a bit expensive.

quickjet71 22-09-2008 20:25
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well on the Food Subject we now do a wrap or sandwich and a drink for £3.95 and with a new chef and so new systems, the food is looking far better, and introducing a 20 % loyalty Card ..... coming in next few weeks

quickjet71 22-09-2008 20:26
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The Kids subject is one we are discussing and debating at the moment...........

Lilly 22-09-2008 20:28
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Originally Posted by quickjet71 (Post 633769)
The Kids subject is one we are discussing and debating at the moment...........
Keep it as it is.

lindsay ormerod 22-09-2008 20:31
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 633770)
Keep it as it is.
If I am in town with my well behaved 12 year old we use the Black Horse, think that's where it makes it's money over the Calder.

quickjet71 22-09-2008 20:31
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Lilly you come in to the Calder much ???

Lilly 22-09-2008 20:44
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Originally Posted by quickjet71 (Post 633774)
Lilly you come in to the Calder much ???
I don't go in the Calder much because we're not going out much at the moment due to money being tight. :(

Decent people with well behaved children seem to be offended when I say I agree with the no children policy.....however, I don't think the rule was made because of these people.

The rule was made to keep out those who go in at lunch time with their children and are still there at 5pm as drunk as skunks whilst the children roam around bored and unchecked. :(

BERNADETTE 22-09-2008 20:47
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It is not the children who are the problem, it is the parents letting them do as they please:( If you are serious about letting children in the staff are going to have to be up to confronting parents of the badly behaved ones:)

Lilly 22-09-2008 20:53
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 633787)
It is not the children who are the problem, it is the parents letting them do as they please:( If you are serious about letting children in the staff are going to have to be up to confronting parents of the badly behaved ones:)

It is the children and the parents who cause the problem.

This is why the current rule is great....it keeps both out. :mosher:

I agree with you when you say that if they are going to start letting people take children in they will have to be ready to take a very tough stance with the all-dayers. :(

BERNADETTE 22-09-2008 20:59
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 633790)
It is the children and the parents who cause the problem.

This is why the current rule is great....it keeps both out. :mosher:

I agree with you when you say that if they are going to start letting people take children in they will have to be ready to take a very tough stance with the all-dayers. :(
Yes and these sort of people are not exactly known for their friendly ways:eek:

Lilly 22-09-2008 21:15
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 633791)
Yes and these sort of people are not exactly known for their friendly ways:eek:
No they're not......this is why I say keep them out. ;)

Wynonie Harris 22-09-2008 21:27
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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633758)
would be much better if we could take the kids in to eat.
Personally, I'd rather eat them outside. They taste much better in the fresh air, especially with salt and vinegar.

jaysay 23-09-2008 09:42
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 633798)
Personally, I'd rather eat them outside. They taste much better in the fresh air, especially with salt and vinegar.
Ah but I bet you couldn't eat a full one Wynonie:D

onlyme 23-09-2008 09:59
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To be honest with you, anywhere that refuses me when I have my son, will not get the benefit of my custom when I dont have him.

I appreciate the need to keep a good atmosphere without screaming kids, but that should be up to the parents, and ultimately the staff to maintain.

Less 23-09-2008 10:01
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The Railway allows parents with children in, if the owners of these little dears paid as much attention to them as they do to their texting, the place would be much better, the Broadway however has a no children rule which makes a child free adults visit much less disturbed and troublesome.

Stick with the no children rule there are enough places that cater for parents ignoring children.

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flashy 23-09-2008 10:05
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i have one of these little blighters and i say NO KIDS PLEASE, people go out to enjoy themselves without the kids so why should they have other peoples kids annoying them

there are restaurants for parents and kids, keep them out of the pubs

Neil 23-09-2008 11:51
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 633891)
i have one of these little blighters and i say NO KIDS PLEASE, people go out to enjoy themselves without the kids so why should they have other peoples kids annoying them

there are restaurants for parents and kids, keep them out of the pubs
I agree with you Shaz. If you have the kids go to the kiddie pubs. If you don't then go somewhere peaceful like the Calder

Tealeaf 23-09-2008 13:17
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Why is this establishment being referred to as a pub? It regularly maintains doormen and employs a dress code to restrict admission. Therefore it is not a public house. Maybe it is a bar or a restaurant but I do not particularly care, as I have never entered the premises and I have no intention of doing so.

quickjet71 23-09-2008 14:02
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Well Dress Code has been relaxed for what i belive to be a long time, other than Thursday Friday and Saturday night. I do know we have some issue but the last 2 weeks i and my team have spent alot of time ironing them out.

pussycat 25-09-2008 22:44
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i think you should let kids in , cuz these kids are goin to be your future and make you more money ,

Benipete 25-09-2008 23:34
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I think you should let them in through the day and give them free pop and crisps.Then maybe I can have some peace and quiet across the road in the Railway.:hidewall:

Speedy 25-09-2008 23:42
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Keep the kids out definately, nothing worse than a place packed with screaming kids. if im honest calder is probably my favourite bar in accy, my nights out always start there:-). nice relaxed atmosphere and usually very busy on the weekend. also it must be said one of the few places where the toilets are actually half decent looking and clean.

cherokee 26-09-2008 00:57
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Originally Posted by pussycat (Post 634841)
i think you should let kids in , cuz these kids are goin to be your future and make you more money ,


Sorry Pussycat but have to dissagree. Infact that is absolute rubbish without intending offence.
Children are not allowed to drink until they are 18 by which time they will decide along with thier mates which pubs to go in. I hardly see any of them having a conversation saying "lets go in there because they let me in as a child"
By the time these so called future custom grow up the pubs will have changed probably three times over.
I used to take mine in pubs when they were little . but having said that there were fewer family friendly pubs like today. I also only had a couple of hrs early doors then took them home to keep to a routine and get them fed and to bed on time. I never let them run riot as so many do these days.
I hate kids running around pubs and I would avoid such pubs if I were out with adults.
On the other hand if I was to take my grandson out i would prob have his mum with us and it would most likely be a family thing therefor resulting in appropriate surroundings.

entwisi 26-09-2008 12:50
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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633758)
would be much better if we could take the kids in to eat......good food nice place but a shame kids cant have any.
Ditto, even if its only 12-3 with kids out by 4 I would be happy.

We eat out a fair bit and would like to come in with our well behaved child who usually eats an adult meal, as it is your place is off teh list

katex 26-09-2008 12:58
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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 634960)
Ditto, even if its only 12-3 with kids out by 4 I would be happy.
I agree Entwisi ... there will always be a minority of children whose parents don't check, but I think they are in the minority.

Lots of pubs now serve good inexpensive lunches, and a shame we cannot take advantage of this just because we have children.

Have always admired some Europeans who welcome children into their establishments; now some are making the effort, some folks are looking for problems.. :(

lancsdave 26-09-2008 13:01
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I think it's quite funny that people want to keep kids out of licenced premises because of their behaviour. The adults set an even worse example when they have had a few :D

katex 26-09-2008 13:07
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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 634964)
I think it's quite funny that people want to keep kids out of licenced premises because of their behaviour. The adults set an even worse example when they have had a few :D
How very true ! . LOL.

polly 26-09-2008 15:24
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I did start a thread on the Calder a few months ago. I am sure if you did a search you will find the thread with my disastrous experience of the outlet fully detailed.
I think y9our first priority should be improving the standard of customer service.
As for the kids v no kids policy. I would say definitely no kids, but then I only get inot Accrington about once every six months, so you will not achieve your targets if you rely on my custom.

Child friendly pubs appeal to one section of the market only and probably frighten off twice as many people as they attract.

Caz 26-09-2008 18:16
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Sorry Pussycat but have to dissagree. Infact that is absolute rubbish without intending offence.
Children are not allowed to drink until they are 18 by which time they will decide along with thier mates which pubs to go in.
I hardly see any of them having a conversation saying "lets go in there because they let me in as a child"
By the time these so called future custom grow up the pubs will have changed probably three times over.

Agreed, the young ones that go in now, particularly Thursday, do so because it has been a quid a pint...Will that continue?
The way pubs are going will it still be there in ten years time?

I used to take mine in pubs when they were little . but having said that there were fewer family friendly pubs like today.

Only time time I ever took mine in was for the odd game of pool. It was Sunday afternoon, in the pool room, not the main area, and they were only allowed in for a couple of hours, and closely watched by both staff and parents. This was your average street corner pub, not an eaterie like the Calder.

I also only had a couple of hrs early doors then took them home to keep to a routine and get them fed and to bed on time. I never let them run riot as so many do these days.
I hate kids running around pubs and I would avoid such pubs if I were out with adults.

It's up to the staff to get shut of these unsociable kids & the adults, for the sake of decent clientele.

Plus if what i wanted was to take my young family out for a meal, would go to a restaurant.

Is the Calder seen as more of a restaurant or a pub, hard to decide

On the other hand if I was to take my grandson out i would prob have his mum with us and it would most likely be a family thing therefor resulting in appropriate surroundings.
Think the Calder first of all needs to decide where it fits in the scheme of things. If you don't class yourselves as a pub, you need some more stringent rules on admissions

Benipete 26-09-2008 22:37
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When I pick my granddaughter up from school I don't take her to the pub unlike the fowl mouthed girls from Accringtons finishing school for young ladies No I take her to my flat and teach her how to make cakes- biscuits
bread etc.basic cooking skills.

She loves every minute of it and then she looks on the web for new ideas for the next day.

Simple but effective teaching and it's all a game to her.:dancedog:

Wynonie Harris 27-09-2008 17:48
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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 635172)
I don't take her to the pub unlike the fowl mouthed girls from Accringtons finishing school for young ladies
Presumably, they go to KFC? ;)

vicky1 29-09-2008 12:33
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what time does this pub shut now because whilst out with some friends on sat night, we were refused entry at 11.30

flashy 29-09-2008 15:46
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it seems from what i have read in this thread that the Calder is the new Regency, i remember when i was 17/18 going into the Regency and loving it, now its just a bag of crap, hope the Calder does well for you :)

maxwell silver 18-10-2008 19:54
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Who ever thought of putting the toilets up 2 flights of stairs was obviously some twentysomething teetotal fitness freak with a degree in How To Make Life Hard For Drinkers Over 50.:mad:(or those approaching 50).Top marks for the footy though.

Caz 18-10-2008 20:02
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Have they got a lift in there? Or maybe a disabled loo downstairs? Was thinking of disabled customers rather than over fifties like myself lol! :)

If not it won't be getting my custom on principal.

Noticed that a lot of Witherspoon type pubs have upstairs loos.

flashy 18-10-2008 20:19
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was in the Calder on Thursday night and it was packed....

emamum 18-10-2008 20:38
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Do they still do the cheap drinks on a thursday? lol, just read that and sounded wrong....i meant is the new manager carrying that on?

cazzer.... isnt it illegal for them not to have disabled facilities now?

Caz 18-10-2008 20:44
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Not sure Em. Found this link
Access to everyday services : Directgov - Disabled people

Doesn't actually say it's illegal though, but seems a case for discrimination can be brought if they don't make reasonable adjustments.

AccyJay 20-10-2008 12:32
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The Calder does have a toilet that has wheelchair access downstairs. It is at the left hand side of the bar.

As for the under 18's debate, I actually enjoy going in the Calder because they don't allow children in. As some of you on here already know, I run my own pub, which does welcome families in with children. It is nice though to be in a quieter environment.

SamF 20-10-2008 22:59
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Keep on quid a pint on thursdays and you'll never be short of custom - calder is the place to be in accy on student night ... though I do wish they'd accept army ID on the door as proof of age - mate of mine is in th'army and we're out every thurs whilst he's back - we had to beg to get him in using an army ID what's wrong with it ?

Lolly 21-10-2008 10:01
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In most pubs, clubs, supermarkets, off licences etc.. there is only 3 acceptable forms of ID and they are a passport, a driving licence (including provisional), or any form of ID with the official PASS logo on (ie Citezencard) I work in a pub and wouldn't dream of taking anything else, including Forces ID. I'm not entirely sure that there is a DOB on Forces ID, maybe someone could comfirm this? If not then why should Forces ID be accepted after all you ca go in the army before your 18, so it wouldnt be an acceptable form.

Benipete 21-10-2008 16:36
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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 643178)
In most pubs, clubs, supermarkets, off licences etc.. there is only 3 acceptable forms of ID and they are a passport, a driving licence (including provisional), or any form of ID with the official PASS logo on (ie Citezencard) I work in a pub and wouldn't dream of taking anything else, including Forces ID. I'm not entirely sure that there is a DOB on Forces ID, maybe someone could comfirm this? If not then why should Forces ID be accepted after all you ca go in the army before your 18, so it wouldnt be an acceptable form.
Well I must disagree,I find that my grey hair, Toothless gob, wrinkled face, walking stick,hump back and general appearance are all I need.Not to mention the bus pass and Jam-Jar-Bottomed Glasses.:D:D

Lolly 21-10-2008 17:00
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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 643294)
Well I must disagree,I find that my grey hair, Toothless gob, wrinkled face, walking stick,hump back and general appearance are all I need.Not to mention the bus pass and Jam-Jar-Bottomed Glasses.:D:D
PMSL. :D:D:D

steeljack 21-10-2008 18:41
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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 643178)
I work in a pub and wouldn't dream of taking anything else, including Forces ID. I'm not entirely sure that there is a DOB on Forces ID, maybe someone could comfirm this? If not then why should Forces ID be accepted after all you ca go in the army before your 18, so it wouldnt be an acceptable form.
So I guess it's okay for the young recruits in the military to put life and limb on the line to keep your sorry ass safe but not okay for you to serve them a drink , :mad:

emamum 21-10-2008 19:13
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 643342)
So I guess it's okay for the young recruits in the military to put life and limb on the line to keep your sorry ass safe but not okay for you to serve them a drink , :mad:
well not if they are underage :rolleyes:

Lolly 21-10-2008 23:43
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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 643342)
So I guess it's okay for the young recruits in the military to put life and limb on the line to keep your sorry ass safe but not okay for you to serve them a drink , :mad:
Excuse me how dare you!! At the end of the day the checking of ID's is the law so no, if they havent got correct ID. I'm not going to risk my job and a massive fine for anyone!! If they are over 18 and can prove it with the correct form of ID then of course i'll serve them.

And i'm not getting into a slanging match about the military, because before anyone starts my brother was in the army until recently, my ex is in the RAF and i have lots of friends who are currently fighting in Afghan in both the army and RAF!!!

jaysay 22-10-2008 09:08
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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 643473)
Excuse me how dare you!! At the end of the day the checking of ID's is the law so no, if they havent got correct ID. I'm not going to risk my job and a massive fine for anyone!! If they are over 18 and can prove it with the correct form of ID then of course i'll serve them.

And i'm not getting into a slanging match about the military, because before anyone starts my brother was in the army until recently, my ex is in the RAF and i have lots of friends who are currently fighting in Afghan in both the army and RAF!!!
Spot on Lolly, Its a pity more people don't keep to the letter of the law.

SamF 24-10-2008 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 643178)
In most pubs, clubs, supermarkets, off licences etc.. there is only 3 acceptable forms of ID and they are a passport, a driving licence (including provisional), or any form of ID with the official PASS logo on (ie Citezencard) I work in a pub and wouldn't dream of taking anything else, including Forces ID. I'm not entirely sure that there is a DOB on Forces ID, maybe someone could comfirm this? If not then why should Forces ID be accepted after all you ca go in the army before your 18, so it wouldnt be an acceptable form.
It has DOB on it of course.

And its the MOD for god's sake you can't get much more official.

maxwell silver 24-10-2008 19:28
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Quid a pint on Thursdays & it's packed.Do these people not work Fridays:rolleyes: I often wondered a few years back,when Accrington was the place to be on a Sunday night & the town was packed,how many actually had to get up early for work on Monday.

quickjet71 27-10-2008 19:30
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Wow so many questions, Yes there are toilets downstairs...... Thursday wil not be changed,

on the subject of ID i think most pubs do only take the 3 forms of ID..... and as stated in the Goverment 'Challenge 21' this is what we decided to use as a company policy. If you want to talk about the ID MOD card then i am willing to listen, so pop in for a chat ..

keetah992000 27-10-2008 19:57
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we would love to bring kids in to eat - oo that sounds wrong - i am not a cannibal lol
but really i think so long as they sit are well mannered and not running riot or screamming etc i dont see what the problem is - obviously it would be at your discretion and i would expect that it would only be for the duration of the meal - not still there three hours later lol please let us in with children it would make A LOVELY CHANGE.

quickjet71 27-10-2008 20:07
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This is one rule that is so topical ...................

flashy 27-10-2008 20:22
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i suppose thats not upto you though, arent they the rules that the owners of the pub chain set?

quickjet71 27-10-2008 20:31
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a little bit of both really

Lilly 27-10-2008 20:33
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Originally Posted by keetah992000 (Post 645062)
we would love to bring kids in to eat - oo that sounds wrong - i am not a cannibal lol
but really i think so long as they sit are well mannered and not running riot or screamming etc i dont see what the problem is - obviously it would be at your discretion and i would expect that it would only be for the duration of the meal - not still there three hours later lol please let us in with children it would make A LOVELY CHANGE.
The problem is that you can't let some children in and not others.....how do the management know who will make sure their kids don't run round and who will just sit there and let them do as they please? :confused:

Plenty of people would still be there with their children 3 hours later too. :(

I don't think you can start blurring the lines and making exceptions or the whole thing just becomes a farce......either children are allowed or they're not.

At the moment they are not and everybody knows where they stand with that.

keetah992000 27-10-2008 23:16
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thats fair enough Lilly - but I want to treat my step kids every now and then - we dont have a car and so can't drive to country pubs etc - there are a couple of places to eat out in acccrington - Mcdonalds and KFC - or i could order them a takeaway I suppose.
They feel grown up and get excited when I say we are going out for a meal - last time we went around most places in town and ended up at the flippin chippy - they are 10 and 11 and are lovely young ladies such a shame really.

BERNADETTE 27-10-2008 23:45
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keetah the Black Horse allows children and the food is very good and cheap enough. Try it think you will enjoy:)

keetah992000 28-10-2008 09:01
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bernadette - last time we went to Black Horse they were supposedly serving into the evening - it was 3:30 and they had stopped serving food - that is where we were originally going when we ended up at the chippy - The Warner arms had a board outside saying they served food until 6pm but then said they had shut the kitchen as they only serve until 2:30.
And I would rather take the girls somewhere like the Calder to be honest.
So thanks but I did try :D

Lilly 28-10-2008 11:22
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Originally Posted by keetah992000 (Post 645133)
thats fair enough Lilly - but I want to treat my step kids every now and then - we dont have a car and so can't drive to country pubs etc - there are a couple of places to eat out in acccrington - Mcdonalds and KFC - or i could order them a takeaway I suppose.
They feel grown up and get excited when I say we are going out for a meal - last time we went around most places in town and ended up at the flippin chippy - they are 10 and 11 and are lovely young ladies such a shame really.
Why don't you take them to a restaurant as opposed to a pub?

Last time we went for a meal as a family we went to Quattros in Accy.

They open early in the evening which is good when you're taking children and the children were made very welcome. :)

BERNADETTE 28-10-2008 12:36
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Originally Posted by keetah992000 (Post 645185)
bernadette - last time we went to Black Horse they were supposedly serving into the evening - it was 3:30 and they had stopped serving food - that is where we were originally going when we ended up at the chippy - The Warner arms had a board outside saying they served food until 6pm but then said they had shut the kitchen as they only serve until 2:30.
And I would rather take the girls somewhere like the Calder to be honest.
So thanks but I did try :D
Okie dokie:)

keetah992000 28-10-2008 12:46
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yeah probably would next time - there wasnt any quattros when we went for meal last time and even papa luigis or what ever it was then was shut down - it was daft - felt like we were in some strange horror movie where all eateries where shut and taken over by zombies


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