Hyndburn Mela
 

It's never going to go away!!!!


Yes, this year it's on the 16th August at OAKHILL PARK, MANCHESTER ROAD, ACCRINGTON

12.30pm to 7pm

Music throughout the afternoon, tasty food, arts and crafts.

It's all Free.

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will have a sneck if weathers ok.:) if grass is soggy sod it.:D

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Not while there's people like you about Gayle, I suppose we are going to have a Polish band this year, multiculturism my arse, the money would be better spent on other things.:mad:

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the countries on its knees mass unemployment ahh theyve got the finger on the pulse lets waste money on this...:rolleyes:

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I don't think this is funded from public money so I don't understand your point.

Do you feel the same way about the millions being wasted by hosting the Olympics in this Country.

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nope its creating much needed jobs and even taking on thousands of apprentices maybe maybe will help cut the skill shortage by letting teenagers waste their life by dossing on the dole...

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Think of all the local people that earn money from this

Marquee company
Toilet hire company
Stage management
Bands
Security

So you can say what you want about the type of music but it's lottery money and it's going to pay people's wages. Would you rather that the money that you spent on the lottery added another brick to a big white elephant building in the centre of London or if it helped save jobs in the North West?

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Do I get a sense of deja vu here? Didn't we have the same argument in 2008...and 2007... The answer's simple - if you don't like the mela, don't go to it...and if you don't want to pay for it, don't buy lottery tickets.

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And we'll probably have the same arguement in 2010, 2011 and 2012 because it's not going to go away.

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...and 2013, 2014 and 2015, by which time the Olympic site in London will be a rusting white elephant, having conferred no benefit whatsoever on us up North. :rolleyes:

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Am I starting to win you over, Wynonie..... or wear you down.:D

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I'm agreeing with you, Gayle! If I still lived in Accy, I'd come along (after the pub). ;)

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Getting tiresome isn't it Gayle ... they just won't listen to the actual facts of the financing of this event ... :rolleyes:

I will try to come .. but like Cashy don't like soggy grass, and it's the day after the Accyweb meet ... still may blow a few cobwebs away. :D

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for one day hardly in perspective with olympics which is employing people for years.:rolleyes: plus accy carnival has to raise money through accrington lions so why does this get lottery money:confused:

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Because they add the multiculturism tag to it that's the bugbear.:(

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Because the lottery don't just hand money out without people applying - I apply for the money, I get it, I'm guessing that Accrington Carnival don't apply.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that it's multicultural - it's the fact that it's a good event that gets about 3,000 sat outdoors having a good time.

I think it's more important that I'm paying the wages of people in Accrington through this event that people who live in London. And yes, it's one day, but if we all packed it in these people wouldn't make a living at all. I think it's more important to get the money circulating around our town.

For example - stage hire company and stage management - I've hired them for about 5 events this year - all different and all lottery funded. He pays his wage and the wages of two men who he brings with him. So, in the course of this year I've given them all a week's wage. He and the rest of his team all come from Oswaldtwistle - they get paid, they spend the money in Ossy pubs and Ossy shops.

I agree, it's not on the scale of the Olympics but it's feeding local people.

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That's complete and utter crapola! If it's a good event it gets funded, plain and simple.

Coppice Celebratory event
Sparks drama
Rhyddings Park fun days
Rhyddings Park bird box projects

Also - all lottery funded this year.

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[quote=Gayle;735271]Think of all the local people that earn money from this

Marquee company
Toilet hire company
Stage management
Bands
Security

And who pays for it? The taxpayer.

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[quote=Tealeaf;735361]Thought it was lottery funded? :confused:

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Well from what I can gather CS its employing plenty of people from foreign shores:rolleyes:

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Apart from size, there's one significant difference between this Mela and the London Olympics. Nobody is forced to pay for the Mela - if you don't want to fund it, don't buy lottery tickets. There's plenty of other ways to blow your money. The 2012 Olympics, on the other hand, is soaking up ever-increasing billions of our hard-earned taxes at a time when we can least afford it. We have no choice in the matter, but to simply continue funding this grandiose, wasteful project with more and more taxes...that's the difference.

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ONLY IF THEY BUY A LOTTERY TICKET!!!!!!


As for whether the lottery fund the right things - take a look at their site and you'll see that they fund big and small projects all around the country and there's is no bias to any one sector (or ethnic group) of the community.

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Ok Gayle for next year drop the multicultural "mela" tag, drop the asian bands etc. and go back to what it used to be, a good open air concert. IMHO it was spoilt when when you HAD to add the multicultural tag to get funding and you know it.

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No, you're wrong. The event used to be over two days - Mela on one day and indie local bands on the other. They were organised by two separate groups. One group stopped putting their event on the other group carried on. That was nothing to do with the Mela getting funding because it's for Asians and the other not, it was to do with effort - the other group stopped trying. So, the Mela then incorporated a bit of the other one so that it was more inclusive. Really you should be thanking the Mela group for not letting the other completely disappear.

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I don't ever remember two days of music up Oakhill Park, but you're acting like a politician now by changing the thread. Please drop the Mela and all that goes with it and put all your effort and lottery skills into changing it back to how it use to be a music concert. But you know you wouldn't get the funding.

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Gayle, I am about to give you karma for all the prattish questions you get asked with regard to events such as this, and no matter how much you explain how they will be funded or other groups that are given lottery funding, some people only wish to keep a blinkered view and attempt to stir up hatreds against certain members of our society ... :rolleyes:

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How is that changing the subject? You want the event back to what it was - what it used to be was two days with the Mela on one day and the other music event on the other day.

I would get the funding - I have got the funding for other events but just because this one event is something you don't like, you seem to have a problem with it.

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You have to remember that Gayle was the reason we got the funding for the stanley exhibition through the lottery.... queue the anti stanley or football brigade...there will always be things that people will not agree lottery funding to go into but as others have said ... if it bothers anyone that much just don't buy lottery tickets!

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I'm well aware of Gayles involvement with the Stanley exhibition and well done but this isn't about that. Katex's post smacks of "Bagpuss the racist is at it again", well Kate you're wrong. Once again I will say it, no matter how you dress it up, a Mela is mainly for the asians, which means minority, much eaiser to get funding. Gayle you know all too well you had to add Mela or Community to the event because funding could not be found for a music concert.

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Ok .. I apologise if my remarks came across that you were racist, but that's how you came across initially. All lottery applications come from some sort of group of which other people are not a part of, and criticism aimed at them for receiving funds. Let's face it even the Guides/Scouts are backed up by the Church.

I expect the lottery commission did look at the application for a Mela more favourably than they would a 'music concert' as, with lots of misunderstandings on both sides, is a step to bringing us together more.

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If that is the case Bagpuss why did the lottery fund a brass band concert in Rhyddings Park? There is no 'dressing up' to get the funding of any sort. If you try to 'dress it up' they see through it and it's more likely to be rejected. I apply for what is needed for when it is needed. On this occasion - working for Hyndburn Mela and Community Festival Association - I applied for funding for a mela and community festival. And a mela is a mela, you can't get away from the fact that people of all cultures come to it - we try to include something for everyone.

It's not some great con or conspiracy with the funding bodies - for example with the Arts Council, you ask for funding and as long as it's a well written bid that fits in with at least one of their six themes then it stands a good chance of getting the funding.

Equally - any of the other Big Lottery funders - as long as it's well written and is appropriate for whatever they're funding at the moment then you'll get it. For example the bird box project in Rhyddings Park. Over the past year we've had about £15k of lottery money to work with the schools in the area on a bird box project - we've installed designer bird boxes and we're produced a book and now we're running wednesday workshops. Not a hint of 'multicultualism' used in the funding application.

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Just out of interest, Wynonie, there was an opinion poll published some time ago which indicated more people from London were against the Olympics here in 2012 than in the rest of the country. Most of my mates here in the East End agree entirely with you although the language they use is somewhat more robust. If the money was to be spent on sport, then it should have been spent on facilities around the country instead of this wasteful exercise.

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Ah but thats common sense T, what do the general public know of such things?:rolleyes: things like that are completly disregarded, cos "They" know better.:rolleyes:

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What is a mela?
I've looked on AskOxford: Free online dictionary resources from Oxford University Press which said: Sorry, there are no results for that search.
I've looked in Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press, which gave the reply:
Results
mela was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary.

It does mean apple in Italian though.

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WWW.EASTLONDON-MELA.COM check that out.:)

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Mmmmmmmm. Much as Bagpuss said then, aimed at certain sections of the community and not as inclusive as some would like us to believe.;)

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Reckon most people around the country are against it, apart from Tessa Jowell and Seb Coe. :rolleyes:

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Seem to be quite a lot of non-Asian people at last year's Accy one, if Kipax's photos are anything to go by.

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Mela means gathering - and I don't care one jot what other melas are like around the country because as far as I'm concerned the Hyndburn Mela is for everyone. I'm not what you seem to think the target market is and I love it. It's lively, fun and plenty going on for everyone.

And judging by the photos and my knowledge of the event, I'm not on my own. There isn't one particular sector of the community that come - unless you call 'people out to have a fun afternoon out' a certain sector of the community.

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Those photos have been through Photoshop;):)



I had a walk up last time it was on to see what the money was being wasted on. Not surprisingly it wasn't my sort of thing but as you say it's up to the individual to make their own mind up, I just want the choice to attend a free music concert as it was or a Mela.

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Well I belong to Hyndburn Mela committee so naturally we're putting on a Mela. However, if you or anyone else, wants to set up a group to put a music festival on then I'd be happy to help.

Just so we're clear about this - these aren't council run OR council funded events, the Mela is organised by a community group with outside funding. The council supports us by providing some ground staff to help set things up, lend us some chairs and of course, give us the park for the day - but I'm pretty sure they'd do that for any group who wanted to use the bandstand, whatever sort of event they wanted to put on.

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Take no notice Gayle you carry on:D:mosher:

Hyndburn Mela - the fabulous new band stand
 

Thursday and the band stand still not finished, but ......they are working really hard on it. I must say, its looking AMAZING, very much like the original one! Well done to the local firm who are involved in it.

atarah

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You were in at around 11.30 this morning taking the pics - I saw you. :D

I'm the person in the orange top holding a blue folder.

It will be finished in time - so they keep telling me. I'm only a teensy bit worried :)

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If one or two of them got on with their work instead of watching the mums who are using the play area it would be finished by now.

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LOL they need something to do while they drink cups of tea all day.

Maybe if you had washed your knees 30 years ago you would have been helping organise the Mela each year :rolleyes::D:D:D

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Nice one Neil, but I think me and Gayle are miles apart, instead of wasting time organising a mela, she would be coming to the footy with me.;):)

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oooh top of the street, we will be there :D sounds good and we missed last years, cant remember why tho

its a gathering for everyone, bo one will be turned away because of ethnicity or anything like that, its free, the lottery people pay for it and theres no opt-out when you buy a ticket, if you dont like it then dont buy one, no ones forcing you to go, why are you complaining??

some people just like to have something to complain about!

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Too right they do, do you anyone like that?:rolleyes::)

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That looks amazing! I never knew that we had that sort of facility here in Accy............my only concern is the dreaded vandalisim issue, what has been done to ensure that this magnificent structure is not 'abused'?

Secondly Gail, how would I go about getting my own band (a 7 piece Modern Country Rock outfit) involved (too late for this year)? It would be great to perform on that stage in my adopted 'home town'.

See y'all there!

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;):rolleyes: Well Pete if you sneek up one quiet Sunday morning at 6am...........:D

Or change the bands name to say The Mela Boys spend a bit too long under a sunbed and then see Gayle, sorted.:rolleyes:;)

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not sure if there is a dress code but sure something like this would help

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Now you can't fail to get the gig:D

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Guys, my question was a serious one, and to have it 'bastardised' by you 2 really ****es me off............Baggy,whilst Im sure you comments were more tounge in cheek,Im afraid your reputation preceeds you,and I for one find your 'racially motivated' remarks unwelcome.

Steeljack,thanks for the pic,however I didnt realise they had Mela's in AFGANISTAN..............Hmmm

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Note to Gayle: Cowboy's band which also includes Shakermaker is really the business (check out their website). I reckon they would make an interesting and enjoyable contrast to the other musical fare on offer and add a little more of that highly fashionable factor, "diversity". If you do decide to book them next year I for one will definitely be coming! :cool:

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Thanks Wyn!!

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As it happens, that's what I'm doing today - going to the football. Some people are quite capable of having lots of different tastes!:p

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UK Cowboy - would have loved to have had you play. In fact, as it happens one of my bands cancelled last week and I had to find another band so if I'd have known about you last week I would have asked you.

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Well worth booking the lads for next year, Gayle! :)

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well i hope the weather is better tomorrow than it is today

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Is that the FES or Ewood Gayle:D

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Ewood today. Taking my Dad and Hubby as their Father's Day pressie.

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Saturday morning - bandstand almost ready now. Looking good too! I couldnt get over how it looks so much like the original. One of the workmen today told me they managed to locate the ORIGINAL plans, thats the reason. How good is that!

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Now we just have to hope for good weather.

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Very good .. it looks beautiful .. :mosher:

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Impressive isn't it?

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No comment for fear of offending anyone.:confused:

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Nice one Gayle, I hope to pop up for an hour tomorrow, might say hello.:)

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n also hope no drunken or stoned scumbags kip in the park tonight!!! would be a shame it looks great.:rolleyes:

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Its to much up hill cashy for the winos mate:D

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Looks great, thanks for the pics Atarah:mosher:

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Some pressie! You'd have been better off bringing 'em on the Clayton End with us lot! ;)

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Managed a short time today ... and enjoyed what I saw.

Mind you ... was there when the Manchester School of Samba were on .. all those drums !! .. didn't do me hangover much good. Glad I went though.

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that was while we were there, didnt see you!

their dancing chappy was hilarious tho!!

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They had two spots though Emamum ... I didn't get there 'till the second one at around 4.30 p.m. Yes, was stood with Kipax, and we both commented on the dancer .. nice muscles though ... :D

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aah we saw the first lot... ty spent most of his time in their tent... coulda given that guy a run for his money! lol

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Well the Telegraph have made a booboo today. They've put that I work for Mid Pennine Arts in the article - I haven't worked for them for 18 months. It doesn't half cause a lot of embarrassment all round when the Telegraph do this - I don't know why they do it, when they get press releases they should just stick to what they know and not what they think they know!!!!!


Anyway, other than that - thanks for coming folks - katex, sorry I didn't see you or you know I'd have come and said hello. Emamum would have been nice to have met you.

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Think its more a case of lazy journalism Gayle, they only read what they want to, serve them right if you didn't do a press release and made them work for the wages:(

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I came for a brief period of time. I was on my own though and did feel like a bit of a lemon :p didn't see you Gayle but didn't have my glasses! :D

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i saw you gayle but you looked very busy and i didnt want to bother you :D

are there any pictures from it in todays telegraph?

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There are a few and if I get chance in a short while, I'll download some.

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the photographer took a pic of ty playing one of the samba drums, was wondering if it had gone in :D

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No, there are just two pics......one of a young asian girl with henna decorated hands....and another one of a singer....not one of a little boy playing drums......aah, I hope he won't be too disappointed.

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Waste of time the 'Telegraph'; they suggested the Mela was an Asian event. An excerpt from the article: "The popular Asian event, featuring bands, DJs and ethnic cuisine". Where do they get these ideas?:rolleyes:
Full article here: Hyndburn Mela comes home (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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ah... paul says the photographer said "accrington summat" so it might be the observer :D

i was walking away cos Grace didnt like the drums

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:eek::eek::eek::eek: My little `un had her hands done with the henna at a community BBQ over in Burnley yesterday and my god it stains......not just her hands either.....ask the missus about her jeans...:rolleyes:

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Can see that Kipax is processing 'photos for his site.

Sports Photography

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Well they said I work for Mid Pennine Arts so accuracy of reporting is not necessarily the main criteria for being a Telegraph reporter.

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That and spellling.

You're lucky they didn't print your name as Gale Night with all the spelling errors we've seen in there recently. :D

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Well with the rate of knot's Gayle's been going at over the last few weeks a slip like that Lilly may have been justified:D

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Thank god it failed to rain and this event was not transferred to the Sports Centre. The people of Church were this year thankfully spared the awful noise and misery caused by this nonsense. Hopefully, this will now be the last one.

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He's in Emamum !.. looks a true professional ... :mosher:

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i bought it today. hes well chuffed with it :D

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Kipax has now put his photos up online.

Shows and Events

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hes a busy lad hes here hes there hes everywhere...:D

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Great Pics Kipax:mosher: