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As I don't recall seeing you there Less you can hardly expect your defence of the evening to be valid. It's as plain as your face you're just creeping around Mick. And as it's supposed to be an open forum where all are welcome I don't think its a good idea to promote Mick as a leader of a 'Clique'

I don't have any qualms whatsoever about the great Job he does on Accy web. It's just that I think on this occasion the splitting of the group spoilt it for me personally. I thought a forum was about expression of free speech, within reason. I meant no offence and intended none. A little understanding from the non smoker's point of view might warrant some commiseration.

I didn't ask you to defend Mick, Derek. You were the only one I thought had given any consideration to the non smokers by your comment, which I quoted. Perhaps you were worried you might be implicated because I quoted your concern that I did think was genuine at the time. I can't believe you are now saying Talk about runnin' with the hare and huntin' with the hounds :confused:

Your points 1 - 3 I fully concur with, Mick. However, you may have wandered in to the non smokers inside, but as I said, you didn't do so before Atarah and myself had left. You'll recall we came and said our goodbyes to y'all before we left. If the meet was at another venue the smokers would have gone out for a smoke and returned to join the rest of the crew inside but because of the Railway's facilities it seemed easier for you to stay put. If the 'Selfish' thought crossed someone's mind just maybe there was a tad of it about. Shame because it was great to meet up with you all, for the short time it lasted in the Arden :(

Thanks for that Cashman, nice to meet you as well :tongueout

I was a smoker myself and I know there can be nowt so self righteous as a former smoker but in this case it has nowt to do with that. When I was a smoker I would go outside, have a toot and come back in and join the rest of the gang. I wouldn't dream of going out with my non smoking friends and decide after the night got underway to sit in a separate room from them. Can't see why y'all can't see my point and that's as bad, if not worse than defending what really was an error of judgment. A forum is supposed to be 'Inclusive' not 'Exclusive'. No cliques, no favourites, just one big family where everyone is appreciated :)

OK I'm done whinging :dummy2:

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a forum is about expression of speech n i did.:D

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Do you have a temperature?
I almost believed you until I remembered he is an old fella drinking beer so must have been to the loo more than twice :D
Thats more like it.

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I am sure there was nothing stopping you going outside, I have spent many meetings sat outside with the dirty smokers.
I think you are being a tad daft now. Mick is not the leader of any group. He might be admin on here and suggested people met in the Arden but that does not mean he is the group leader.
Oops I was wrong for making my comment about you being a bit daft.
I should have said you are talking rubbish.
Have you stopped to think that just maybe those outside stopped outside because you were inside? :rolleyes::D
The clique is a very long running joke and I have never seen Less creeping around Mick.
Good because you appear to be an expert at it.

I think you owe Mick an apology for suggesting he in some way spoilt the night just because he was sat outside.
Maybe your should have come bowling instead of the going to the meet with me, Rhonda and the kids. We had 4 children with us, one more would not have been a problem.

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Just to add a note it was not me that picked the Venue ie the Arden it was another Accyweb member.
I do not pick the Venues now i make suggestions for meets but the members make requests too and after the venue is sorted i sort the rest out.

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Well gotta put my 2 pennyworth in here.....there was plenty of room outside if anyone had chosen to join us, as was said there were more members outside than in.......and if anyone doesn't want to be a passive smoker then stay inside and stop whinging.....rant over :D

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Can i just mention all photo's of the meet have now been uploaded to the gallery ...just because i can:p:D

http://www.accringtonweb.com/gallery...ry.php/cat/971

by the way there are 2 pages of them

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Nor did you see me at the first or any of the regular monthly meets that were held, but I was there where were you? If I'm busy on the night of a meet I don't turn up, simple as. My defence of Mick against a whiner such as you should not be necessary but the world like you and I isn't perfect.
I'm sure given the first chance you are the type of person that would want to join a 'clique', no doubt as moral leader.

It is hardly Micks fault that Government legislation says smokers have to sit outside.

there are plenty of threads about the smoking ban, find one and beat your drum as much as you like, don't go moaning at Mick just because you couldn't be bothered to nip outside to talk even for just a few minutes.
More than a 'tad', you are enjoying your own bout of selfishness and using it to beat up Mick who never causes harm or discomfort for anyone.

I don't think you became self righteous after giving up smoking, I think you served an apprenticeship in it, well now you can stop your overqualified.

Before the smoking ban this wasn't a problem, but it isn't a problem the smokers created so don't blame them for stopping outside, they don't blame the non smokers for stopping inside, though there are usually a few non smokers that also sit with the smokers they claim it's a better atmosphere, (strange that isn't it?).

We can see your point, what you can't see is that it's neither the smokers or the non smokers fault, we have been split by legislation.

Don't talk wet a forum isn't a family, it is a group of people that discuss and exchange views sometimes we agree and other times the arguments get heated.

As for inclusive, the effort you put in makes you inclusive, sitting at your keyboard and moaning about being excluded gets you what you deserve.

I notice you have already been told about the 'clique' being a long standing joke, I just wonder, how did I know you would raise to the bait?

Somehow I get the feeling you have only just started.

Look forward to seeing you at the next meeting, have you decided where it will be yet?
:D

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No, I really am done expressing my view on this. It's been an interesting exercise that has revealed to me that there is a clique and unless you're part of it, your opinion doesn't matter. Sorry to have intruded.

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Then i am afraid yer living in La La Land.:rolleyes:

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Usual and fully expected sort of response.

Don't give up so easily just change your tactics, get to know the people you are in such a rush to condemn.

Don't expect us just to accept you, work on becoming a useful and informative member of the site.

But don't ever, ever pick on Mick, being an Administrator makes him an easy target, it's difficult for him to defend himself against ill thought out criticism. However he will always be defended against such unworthy comments.

Now perhaps after you have read this you can go away for a short while, have a sulk, think about it and come back with a more positive attitude towards your fellow members?
:)

By the way I'm meeting Mick in the last orders this afternoon if you have the time or inclination to apologise, at the same time you might find I'm not as nasty as you have made me appear, (I'm worse).:D

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By the way I'm meeting Mick in the last orders this afternoon if you have the time or inclination to apologise, at the same time you might find I'm not as nasty as you have made me appear, (I'm worse).:D[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah.....:D

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Are you coming down Mary?
:)

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after reflecting on this fer awhile, it brings to mind another member, who i also met, was a nice guy to talk too, "But" disagree wi him at yer peril,:eek: he also decided there was a clique,:rolleyes: never came to a meet as i can recall, but he was never wrong,so it musta been right.:rolleyes: he cleared off in a strop,sulking, etc, would hope yeh got a bit more upstairs than him?

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Who wants to join my clique?

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Ah bless is it lonely down there mate?

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Not today Less, was otherwise engaged but am sure I will see you on Saturday :D

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Good luck for tomos.
xxx

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i was one of the smokers that stayed outside all night .. so was spugs .. tho he went inside a few times :D:D:D... anyway as where i was sat there was only one tv facing me .. just like at home ..... too many tv's are a bit scary for me as i do have orders to stay at least 6ft away from one .... and in fact you can count the spugster for having to stay 6ft away from them as well .. and i think if i had stayed inside i would have had a few problems at staying 6ft away from one ....

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Can I pretty please?? :D:D

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See people like you 2 are just proving him right.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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You in, Cashy?

Good - that makes three of us.

Who else?

ps....the only other clique currently going is the Margaret/Mancie/Cmonstanley one. But you have to be certified as insane by a doctor to join that one.

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tealeaf does being in your thingummyjig mean i have to move to london to be your slave ..... cos i dont think you could afford me ..... spugs has enough trouble keeping up wi me ....:D:D:D

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I would love to join your clique, how long would I have to be on the waiting list before I could gain entry?

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Believe me Wallop ya don't:D:D

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Is that a sign that yours is breaking up Less:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

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No, it's just difficult to have a decent argument when your in a clique of one.
:cool:

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There was me thinking MargaretR was in your's Less, seeing your always arguing:D:D

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I don't argue with Mags, I merely point out her posts that are wrong, it's not my fault that that, happens to be all of them!

:)

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Your very pragmatic Less :D

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My husband and boys tell me i'm pragmatic and pedantic too (the Italians have no understanding of a bit of sarcasm!) ...perhaps someone would invite me into a clique, it could be a new and exciting experience...

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O.K. do yah wanna be in my gang?:D

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Cashy am I in your gang? ;)

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I've never been invited to join the Accy Web clique.

I'm quite happy by myself, in t'other exclusive group that sometimes gets dragged up, the Accy Web click.

:D

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I think you'll find cashy is very particular who he has in his gang heth:rolleyes::D

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Aye cos yer a lady.;)

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I'm sorry but,

It's not that all of the cliques on accyweb are full, in fact we desperately need new blood to prevent interbreeding within our cliques, however you won't be invited, you need to put yourself forward.

You really do have to prove yourself as obnoxious, selfish and that nobodies opinion matters more than your own, then, once we have, (if you're lucky) ignored you or perhaps because what you put in your posts is actually factual, work towards having you banned, then you might be considered, but only if, and it's a big if, you have no sense of humour.

I almost made it into Jaysays clique but my spelling was deemed to be too accurate.

:o

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I did apply to join Tealeaf's clique, but pulled out at the last minute when I saw mi new uniform..! :eek:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5rHHg1chFG...SS+UNIFORM.jpg

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You are a gentleman Cashy! :D

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: I've heard him called some things but gentleman:D

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Quite right Less to be in my clique you have to download this and use it

Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com

:D:D:D

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Thanks for the link Bee.
:)

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Errrrr excuse me I have met Cashy and i would say he is a gentleman......................from what i have seen anyway! :D

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Having met yeh both, i can say wi confidence,yeh have to make allowances fer jaysay,:D its just one of the strange things in life, if i didn't know better i'd think he was a chav.;)

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I'll have you know Sir I take that as an insult:mad::D:D

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Ya your one of the lucky ones who have seen me without a footy shirt on and a photo of me with the only other non-footy shirt I have:D

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I take it you've only met him once or at the most twice;)

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Ah but if i were to hazard a guess, i would assume Bee is more insulted, i mean........being compared to you.:eek::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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How dare you sir, I'd challenge you to a duel, but my seconds on holiday:D

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Yeah I have heard that Cashy ;)

Proper footy hooligan I have also heard...................:D :D :D

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Take no notice of Cashman he will lead you astray:D

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Did you mean Ashtray?;):D:D

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Could well be Beni:D

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Ohhhh dont start the debate about smokers and non-smokers again!! ;)

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What Debate;)

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true we will have more members fleeing.:D:D:D

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Not outside though as it is smoky..............I'll get me coat!

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I'm off out for a smoke!! :D

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Well done another 3 pages of replies from the Holier than thou brigade cluttering up the servers just because they can!
:p

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I thought there was something missing on Accy Web, just couldn't put my finger on, then it sudenly dawned on me Less is back yippeeehttp://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/c...s/00020077.gif

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Glad I didn't turn up, I'd have felt pretty miffed if half the gathering was outside cultivating lung cancer. Smoking is anti-social, smoking and sitting ouside away from the rest of the people you are supposed to be meeting is even more anti-social. There's my opinion, and I'm deffo not in the "clique" :rolleyes:

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The smokers were socialising amongst themselves, there were more smokers than none smokers, somebody (a non smoker) already stated that they could smell the smoke on their clothes even though they were insdoors, so they may as well have been outside. Is staying indoors, away from the majority of the persons present not anti social then? or does that only apply to smokers who stayed outside? Because Im certain the majority would not have minded the minority joining them in the fresh air. :D

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True yer not, but yer are anti- social.:D

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ive said my piece ...

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Myself and Ian did have every intention of sitting outside with the smokers, but got chatting with Barrie, Littlepom and Stuart. Before we knew it, it was time to go home to let the babysitter go. Whilst it's not nice as a non smoker going home with your clothes smelling of smoke, I grew up in a household with both my parents being smokers, so it doesn't really bother me as much as it could others.

It was nice to see everyone again, but I don't think any of the meets will ever be the same as those that we used to hold at the Stag.

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So you won't be seeing me at any more meets then, no point in turning up when I could sit my own back yard and freeze to death drinking crap beer then is there?:(

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well yeh can disagree wi yerself there.:rolleyes:

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How's about we have accyweb meets for smokers and non-smokers on different dates and at different venues???? Then maybe we compare how well attended or not as the case may each meet is:rolleyes:.
It seems to me that accyweb meets are on the decline and the ones making most noise about it are the ones that very rarely/never attend.

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Was going to cheekily post something similar, but thought better of it, seeing as I couldn't go.

If I had, being the social butterfly that I am, I'd have flown hither and thither, but be mainly where I'd be most likely to have a good laugh.

As a smoker the Railway sounds ok-ish. Though I've never been. Neither inside nor out.

Thinking about it, the only meet I've been to since the smoking ban has been introduced, was a Christmas do at the Queens in Church.

Not much of a split that night.

Seeing as the smoking area was a tiny back-yard, accessed via the mens' bogs, and it was cold enough to freeze the angel hair off your seasonal baubles.

At the great meets I remember with fondness, there were no serious thread based discussions, no splits, no post-mortem bitchin', they were quite simply, just really good...
FUN!
:rolleyes:

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Well unfortunately I've never been to a meet, much as I'd like to, but I would have thought the idea of these meets were for members to get together have a face to face chat (by the way was Bee there:rolleyes:) and as Rindi as said have fun, lets face it members can fall out day in day out on line, no need to do it at a meet:D:D

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I seem to recall Bernie was probably the nearest to have spent equal time both inside and outside.

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Did anyone,smoker or non smoker not have a good night?:confused:

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I am going to put my pennyworth in now .........as far as this last meet went i found it was ok a good turn out & a chat here & there, yes the smoking ban has contributed to "split" meets, but i think that the meets are to get to know the people who you are chatting & mabe disagreeing with online its up to the individuals to mix, as far as the venue's are concerned it has got harder & harder to find a good place for a meet up believe me i know:rolleyes:
mick & i used to check out all venues for each meet ( mick to check on the "refreshments" & myself the layout). meets will never be the same as the stag ones that was "accywebs" home. i just wish all this backbiting & nitpicking was put on the back burner (left alone ) & mabe get your heads together & sort out if you would like another meet or not, its always been up to the members to agree where & when, with mick & myself as referee's.


sorry i had to go home early but the lights & telly's were effecting the infection in my eye otherwise i would have stayed till the end. ..........mez

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Your still the mother hen Mez and still talking sense:mosher:

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thank you kind sir;)

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I just tells the truth Mez;)

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Mez, you are right.
I think it is very easy to criticise an event when you haven't had to put the work into organising it. And I know such events do take some organising.
I haven't been to any of the meets, but I am sure I would be happy to mix with both groups of people...to get to know them.

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agree, seems odd to me some critisism came from one who wasn't there,:rolleyes: i can only speak fer meself, but have never had a bad night at one, before n after the smoking ban,some people would win "Gold" if bitching was in the olympics.:D

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Well I had a good time, I am a smoker and were sat outside.
T'other half does not smoke but he didnt mind sitting outside.

TBH I didnt really venture inside as I were having a laugh outside.

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Even though yeh were with us "Anti-Social Lepers"?:eek::D

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Thats what made it more fun!! ;)

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Looks like you could be stuck with the smokers at some meets .... :D:D

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Never seen your bell cashy, unclean unclean:D

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Oh dear, Jaysay ... :eek::rofl38:

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Why is that Kate? Is it because Tealeaf doesn't smoke?
I am only asking out of interest.

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Can't be 100% sure he doesn't, just don't ever recollect him being out in the smoking shelters. Suppose if we do a search, he will have had an opinion on it somewhere on here. LOL. Whichever though .. you will have to go in one room or t'other if he is there ... :D

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I really don't have any problem with people smoking, my dads done it for over 40 years but I am not prepared to sit in a shed outside a pub freezing my nips off just to listen to the conversation of the smokers. Sorry , life is too short and it's not exactly Barbados out there!

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Funny that,yeh dont have a problem, calling people anti social is yer opinion, to me that makes all bets off.:rolleyes:

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it was warm that night .. i was sat outside in a shortsleeved top until 12.30am at least ... and anyway the railway has patio heaters ...:D

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I smoke, I drink and I gamble. I've even been known to spend a few bob on loose women. Any change I've left after that lot, I just waste away.

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I've decided the only win win way is if we all get cloned, then we can sit both inside & out at the next meet, problem solved!

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You say the Railway's full of screens?

Live web cam feeds!

Uniting both North and South Korea...whoops, the Inies and the Outies.

Job's a good un.

:D

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The reason there was a split was that the smoke area in the Railway is so big and it was warm and has heaters if needed.
Picking the Railway was a spur of the moment decision taken by all after the seating and beer crisis at the Arden.
most of the pubs have small smoking areas and smokers just nip out have a fag then go back to the group.
I think the next meet should be in the Sydney st club again as everyone had a good time and all stayed together.
but don't think there will be another meet till the usual Christmas meet in about 18 weeks:D
which gives members time so sort out babysitters.:p:D

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Or perhaps stop smoking.

Or even start.

:rolleyes::D

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I'm begining to learn more each day how your mind works Kate, bet you were some gal 30 years ago:D:D:D

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Steam does occasionally come from his ears on here:D:D

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Its your job to babysit the members Mick :D

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Maybe we should form our own over 18s section;) Then we could 'eff and blind to our hearts' content:D :D

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Thirty years ago:eek: I'd be willing to bet she is a handful today, and probably a fun handful too;):D