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slinky 03-11-2006 21:41

Sleep problems??
 
Well I have been having problems with sleep this past week or so.


Tuesday night, went to bed at 00:00.....sleep finally came at 02:30am then up for work at 6:30am.

Wednesday thought " oh well 12 hour shift after such little sleep I will be ok I will sleep like a baby tonight".....hmmm BED 11pm......sleep 02:30am up for work at 6:30am.

Thursday knackard at work all day.....could have slept on a washing line. 12 hour shift ended. Relaxed at home and thought, stay up until the absolute last minute before sleep takes over. Went to bed at 1:30am ish......looked at clock at 2am, 2:30am, 3am finally felt sleepy at 3:30am......up for work this morning at 6:30am.

It's not the sleep that is the problem, it's the actually being able to fall asleep. it's as if my mind has gone into over drive and will NOT shut down. When I have finally fallen asleep I stay asleep.
Talking to a lady at work today, and she had the same thing a couple of years back. She took SYNDOL. Now this is actually a HEADACHE remedy, but it contains a relaxent. I bought some from the chemist ( DESPERATE NOW) but I don't want to have to take these just to induce sleep.



Anyone any other ideas??

Sensible ones please.....I'm too tired to read through loads of inuendo's.;):D ( you know who you are)

ANNE 03-11-2006 22:09

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Have you tried a milky drink and sprinkling lavender oil on your pillow? Or a relaxing Lavender bath.
Avoid alcohol this can keep you awake. If all else fails get a job on nights and just don't do mornings. lol

shillelagh 03-11-2006 22:09

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I got a list of the doc - hot milky drink, dont drink any drinks containing caffeine after 6pm, turn the tv/computer off by 11pm and read a book but not a thriller (gets the brain racing!). But the killer was - do not use your bed for anything else but sleeping in - no reading a book, watching tv, eating etc.

Gayle 03-11-2006 22:14

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My problem is not the dropping off bit, it's the middle of the night that I have problems. If I wake up (or am woken up by one of the children) I can't get back to sleep for hours. The other night Zack woke me up at about 3ish and I was just dropping off again at about 5ish when Maddie woke up - I knew at that point there was no way I was going to get any more sleep.

I think my body thinks it's had some sleep so it's had enough sleep!

slinky 03-11-2006 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ANNE
Have you tried a milky drink and sprinkling lavender oil on your pillow? Or a relaxing Lavender bath.
Avoid alcohol this can keep you awake. If all else fails get a job on nights and just don't do mornings. lol

HMM milky drink fine!!!

Lavender would kill GINGER as he is alergic and can't breath..... so out rules lavender in the house.

Worked nights for 4 years but with 2 small children in the house....nigh impossible to do.

lancsdave 03-11-2006 22:18

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Stranegly enough one of the ones that works for me ( sometimes) is to take a deep breathe, hold it for a couple of seconds and then breathe out slowly. It's supposed to slow the brain down and you concentrate so hard it stops you thinking about everything else.

slinky 03-11-2006 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh
I got a list of the doc - hot milky drink, dont drink any drinks containing caffeine after 6pm, turn the tv/computer off by 11pm and read a book but not a thriller (gets the brain racing!). But the killer was - do not use your bed for anything else but sleeping in - no reading a book, watching tv, eating etc.

All this does make sense Jen. I was telling Tinks in chat. Last night I fought it to the death before I went to bed. Feeling sleepy I got into bed. Ginger had just finished work and needed to wind down. He put the T.V on and it was that quiz show on ITV. The theme was FIRE------- and you fill in the blanks. 10 minutes later Ginger turned the T.V off and I was filling in the blanks til 3:30am..................:mad:

steeljack 03-11-2006 22:23

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doing a Sukodu puzzle works for me , I keep a book of them on the nightstand and it tends to help slowdown/clear my brain out and helps me drop off

slinky 03-11-2006 22:25

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Reading sometimes makes me sleepy.....but if it's a good book like I am reading at the moment ( martina cole - maura's game) I find myself saying " oh just one more chapter.......just one more chapter.......just one more.....)

slinky 03-11-2006 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave
Stranegly enough one of the ones that works for me ( sometimes) is to take a deep breathe, hold it for a couple of seconds and then breathe out slowly. It's supposed to slow the brain down and you concentrate so hard it stops you thinking about everything else.

Never tried that!!! but I will try anything I need sleep!!!!!

shillelagh 03-11-2006 22:55

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Another one is to exercise BEFORE you go to bed.

ellie 04-11-2006 00:10

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I had a great tip a few week ago. Try counting down from 100 saying sleep in between but of course u have to be relaxed before hand.

cherokee 04-11-2006 00:41

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have you tried the nytol herbal? I sometimes find a nice hot bath a couple of these and a nice cup of horlicks or hot choc does the trick nicely slinky ... good luck hun

Len 04-11-2006 01:32

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How about, don’t have a heavy debate on accyweb before you go to bed because it will only leave you thinking and not sleeping.

Just a thought.

:)

Neil 04-11-2006 06:35

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Slinky, try reading this, when I tried to read it I kept falling asleep.

slinky 04-11-2006 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Slinky, try reading this, when I tried to read it I kept falling asleep.

LMAO.....well thanks Neil, that did the trick nicely, but I ended up dreaming of Madhatter actually posting a thread that actually made sense.......I know weird isn't it.:confused:

slinky 04-11-2006 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Len
How about, don’t have a heavy debate on accyweb before you go to bed because it will only leave you thinking and not sleeping.

Just a thought.

:)

Oh ****** have I missed something AGAIN?? Tinks why didn't you ring me to let me know there was a BIG DEBATE going on.......:confused:

Tinkerbelle 04-11-2006 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slinky
Tinks why didn't you ring me to let me know there was a BIG DEBATE going on.......:confused:

:confused: Must of missed it myself hun. Maybe Len can post a link to it?

Mick 04-11-2006 14:27

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Your not trying to give up smoking by any chance are you Slinky ??

slinky 04-11-2006 14:51

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Originally Posted by mick
Your not trying to give up smoking by any chance are you Slinky ??

OMG NO lol........would you like a few murders in ACCRINGTON:D:D

Mick 04-11-2006 14:56

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its just the patches can have an affect on your sleep the nurse told me just a thought

slinky 04-11-2006 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick
its just the patches can have an affect on your sleep the nurse told me just a thought

Yeah I know what you mean. When I have tried giving up smoking before, it has disturbed my sleep.

flashy 15-03-2009 15:55

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old thread, i know ... but....i'm having trouble sleeping

waking up 3/4 times during the night, actually getting up around 5am cos i cant settle, got achey shoulders and an achey back and neck through tossing and turning all night...other then the ideas already mentioned, anyone got anything else?


PLEASE

Neil 15-03-2009 20:28

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I can get you some rat poison :p:rolleyes::D

jaysay 16-03-2009 09:19

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A bottle of wine usually works for me flashy:D

flashy 16-03-2009 09:22

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had a glass last night Jay and it didnt work

Mick 16-03-2009 09:24

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i have a lump hammer if you want to try that:D

flashy 16-03-2009 09:25

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think i'd need Reece to help me with that one

Mick 16-03-2009 09:26

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i think i can get you some volunteers to help

flashy 16-03-2009 09:29

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hmmmm

MargaretR 16-03-2009 09:31

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I have had sleep problems for many months - sometimes too much and other times insomnia.
I have more or less regulated my sleep pattern by using melatonin - a natural product - small dose an hour before bed - it also helps your body to produce its own melatonin if you dim the lighting in the evenings
What is Melatonin?

Mick 16-03-2009 09:32

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see problem solved by accyweb again:D

flashy 16-03-2009 10:05

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cant you get melatonin in certain foods Margaret?

MargaretR 16-03-2009 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 692908)
cant you get melatonin in certain foods Margaret?

Not unless you eat pineal glands:eek: not recommended

see last para of the link

flashy 16-03-2009 10:09

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lol ok, i thought i'd heard about it somewhere else

Neil 17-03-2009 07:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 692897)
- a natural product -

I would class natural as something that grows not a synthetic copy made in a lab. The pig derived version is natural, the lab made one is not IMHO

MargaretR 17-03-2009 08:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693163)
I would class natural as something that grows not a synthetic copy made in a lab. The pig derived version is natural, the lab made one is not IMHO

I stand corrected - it is a hormone which is produced by the pineal gland, (as opposed to a pharmacutical chemical cocktail), but due to risk of infection from using brain extracted material, it is chemically copied.
Since it is a chemical which our bodies produce and use naturally, it is not an 'alien substance' which can disrupt bodily functions

Neil 17-03-2009 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 693190)
Since it is a chemical which our bodies produce and use naturally, it is not an 'alien substance' which can disrupt bodily functions

Sorry M but I can't agree with that. Of course it is alien, it is synthetic and is made in a lab. I sometimes think you would suck pigs testicles if someone wrote a blog about them being good for you.

MargaretR 17-03-2009 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693214)
Sorry M but I can't agree with that. Of course it is alien, it is synthetic and is made in a lab. I sometimes think you would suck pigs testicles if someone wrote a blog about them being good for you.

No need to get crudely offensive.
I take no prescription meds whatsoever and am curing my CFS with nutritional supplements at no cost to the taxpayer.
Incidentally the NHS considers CFS incurable - yet I am 50% better than I was 7months ago.
I do not follow advice in blogs. My DIY therapy is based on research and recommendations of three qualified doctors - Dr Chandy(Co. Durham), Dr Myhill (Wales), Dr Cheney(USA)

MargaretR 17-03-2009 11:28

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PS - I am not the only one using vitamins, minerals, and other natural products. Fifteen thousand people have now signed my petition.
Petition to: oppose the adoption of the Codex Alimentarius (WHO/UN) proposals for restriction of the presently freely available herb/vitamin/mineral food supplements. | Number10.gov.uk

flashy 17-03-2009 13:12

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Margaret take no notice of him, you do what you want with your life and sod everyone else x

mallard 19-03-2009 11:58

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just try some soft-music to lisen to-it works

Caz 19-03-2009 21:03

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There was a news item this week, about night shift workers, being more eikely to develop cancer.

Obviously there have to be more tests about this....

But regarding night shift workers in general...constant nights, not just the odd night, but people who work nights all the time, like my daughter.

They are sleeping during the day, so they must surely be missing out on melatonin, vitamin D, and other essentials...any advice Margaret? :)

MargaretR 19-03-2009 21:12

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I have never worked nights, but my first husband did, and he died of kidney cancer at age 49.
I know an ambulance driver who works night shifts and he uses Melatonin - safer than sleeping pills.
I take vitamin D every day because I don't get 30 minutes of sunlight a day, any season
I'm quite a hermit :)

Caz 19-03-2009 21:24

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Have suggested vitamin D to her, for obvious reasons, and the melatonin idea.

Don't think the permenant night shift issue has been raised enough.

Daughter comes home from work at 6am, sees that as her tea time, (during the week)
Goes on commy for a while, has something to eat, then depending on how she feels, goes to sleep for the day. Still has to fit in nomal stuff during daylight hours, like going to the bank and such, which interrupts her sleep pattern.

lindsay ormerod 19-03-2009 23:15

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Lavender oil in bath stuff , milky drink, no caffeine or other stimulants, and a clear conscience.:rolleyes:
Ps I sleep like very well. Never needed any help, though I have heard Bach remedies are good.

shillelagh 27-03-2009 21:24

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the bbc website has some ideas .....

BBC NEWS | Magazine | 10 ways to get a really good sleep

flashy 28-03-2009 07:34

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cheers Jen :)

pussycat 29-03-2009 15:45

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i have sleepin problems since my sister passed away , now iam totally dependent on sleepin pills , but some times i still can,t sleep even after talkin them , and im talkin about 5-6-7 in the mornin , there is nothin more i can do to help with sleepin tryed everythin even alcohol and talkin sleepers and sometimes that don,t work , so i just have to live with it ,

emamum 29-03-2009 16:35

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be careful with sleeping tablets, i had a friend that got dependant on them and started taking more and more of them to sleep, eventually taking so man that we couldnt wake him up and called and ambulance, the doctors said that they see alot of sleeping tablet overdoses, most commonly zopliclone (think thats what it was called anyway)


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