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Tony Blair very bravely said what is on most peoples lips, integrate with the country you have adopted, speak English respect the British way of life and it's values. Will they?
(Before you press the 'red' button I'm only asking a question.)

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tony blair is a hypocrite we have to remember it was him pushing for communities as in bringing on so calledasian community leaders which resulted in sepearation on many levels eg differences in policing whereby friends of the so called community leaders got away with blue murder

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I didn't hear the full speech, but I also think that Blair is a hypocrite......the Labour party did so much sucking up to muslim leaders in the hopes of capturing votes that it was sick making.......now he can see that multiculturism is a joke, he is trying to back pedal like mad.
He can pontificate all he wants, it won't make one ha'porth of difference, because in the main these people who are so keen on segregation are already resident in this country...many of them are British born too.

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I think we were very tolerant of other cultures ....... that was until the Government started sticking their noses in and now all we hear permanently is race this, culture that! I can't help but feel sick of hearing about it! I'm far from old and I can certainly remember when race or culture wasn't as issue. By ramming integration down our throats the only thing the Government have succeeded in doing is driving a big wedge between the different cultures.

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I can remember when 'culture' wasn't an issue in every day life Tinks, just the fight to survive on what meagre rations the then government chose to dish out, no need for immigation control then, thank the good lord for my memories of an immigrant free Accrington.

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whilst i agree that the government is partly to blame for nothing less than forced segregation by ramming the whole integration thing down our throats
it must be said that the british public are also to blame for allowing the government to get away with as much as they do. Why is this ? because noone has the guts to question what they are doing or stand up for what is basically our god given right to be british.
I am by no means a racist as i totally agree with the idea of integration but that means other cultures integrating into british culture and abiding by british law while also having the right to follow their individual beliefs.
and top of the list of british law is that we live in a democracy with the freedom to think, say and believe what we wish and not a dictatorship where these things are decided for us.
Integration will continue to be a joke as long as 1) the government continues to take away the british civil rights which our ancestors fought wars to keep just because they are afraid of what a minority of people from other cultures may think
and 2) all british citizens are treated AS equally by the system as the ethnic minorities

now i know that this may appear a little extreme to some people and I apologize if anyone feels offended by it but in a free country such as britain I am entitled to freely speak my mind (or am i ? )

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That is the very reason I posted the thread, why are we afraid to say our piece? is it the PC brigade?

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At the end of the day Tony Blair is a politician. Saying something and doing something about it don't usually go together.

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jedimaster i fully agree with your sentiments, and to be frank i do not give a rats if it pi***s some people off, anybody that comes here HAS to live by our standards end of story. i lived abroad for a few years, took residency in that country, and lived by their standards, it wasn,t an issue for me i just did it. nothing against anyone retaining their heritage/ religion etc, but if you live here or anywhere you should INTEGRATE. if you have no wish to SOD OFF back to wherever.

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did the british integrate in india are they integrating in iraq no they are just killing peoples kids

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you are also a hypocrite cashman

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Thats a well thought out argument NOT :mad:

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as are many in our country have you forgotten the london bus bombings
heaven knows if our ancestors had had that attitude we'd all be speaking german now!!!!!!

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explain please?

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and not only that the indians did what in reply
they kicked the british out
nuff said

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Every now and then a sentence brings a tear to my eye, oh how I wish Accrington was an immigrant free zone again.:)

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Never apologize, ever, it is England, our England please remember that.

You are a long way off being extreme but it's a start.;)

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the ethinc communities r not the establishment are they and the reson why the uk allows immigrants is to make it appear that the english r helping blacks and asians trying to hide their imperialism nuff said

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LOL! Even though your posts on these subjects make me laugh I don't think you mean that Bagpuss. ;)

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What ****es me off is the fact that we as a Nation are openly questioning our own place in what is our own society, I have to applaud the guy for his stance but then again I have to ask myself if he would have been so damming if he wasn’t on his way out. But, maybe we need the likes of Blair and Jack Shaw to pull things back into perspective.

This is after all a white Christian country that for economic and humanitarian reasons opened its doors to the world. If we have to change, adapt or die as a nation because of in-comers that are steadfast in their views and reluctance to integrate then it’s time to change our direction and if that means a tougher stance or taking an hard line so be it. If those people don’t want to be part of our nation then maybe they would like to return to there point of origin.

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still waiting for an explanation spinner.

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Of course I mean it, every single word, I don't want them to integrate I don't want them here full stop:mad:

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i think a few more people need to stand up and say that
(or would that be inciting racial hatred?????)

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Maybe not, I'm not disputing that. You said you wanted an immigrant free Accrington again, you remember when Accrington was immigrant free do you? ;)

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i believe youve stumped us there tinks

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I agree with Bagpuss..........they come over here and spout there mouth's off that they don't like this and they don't like that!!! well p!ss off back to your own counrty if it's soooo bloody brilliant. You would never.......ever.......ever.......see me set foot in Pakistan because I don't agree with how they live or their religion!!! and they obviously have a thing or 2 to say about how we live!!!!!!!!!! YEAH but we didn't make them come here.

I am by far racist!! I tolerate those that are not critical of me or my way of living.....after all I am British .

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I agree in essence slink ..... but 'they'? Who is they exactly?

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The people that come into this country and think they have the god given right to change our way of living!!!!! that's they!!

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Blair's a bit too late to jump on the bandwagon.

The first party, whoever it may be, that tackles issues like immigration, and respecting the cultural heritage of Britain, will sweep to power.

It's an issue that worries a vast amount of people, but the spin doctors in their ivory towers, haven't cottoned on to this yet.

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was a lot of poles after the war, who integrated and mixed no problem, i honestly couldnt care less about anyone so long as they mix and do not spout about our lifestyle. think you may well be correct jedimaster i dont mind any one saying anything, but at least have the guts to back up an accusation, something spinner seems to miss.

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The thing that strikes me is that



when a muslim women or man does something that " OFFENDS " the family like marry a different cult person etc...........they are sent back to pakistan as a PUNISHMENT!!!! damn right it's a bloody punishment.

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that was a short 36hrs lol new it wouldn,t happen. welcome back. pmsl

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No them after LOL :D

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I just said that on another thread :D

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there already is one however they are branded as racists and thugs because they are standing up for this country. not forgetting that the first politician to stand up and say no (enoch powell) was booted out by the powers that be and thats what started this problem in the first place.
and how can they sweep into power if we can't vote for them
as when i turn up to vote they are not even on the list
(but that may be because i live in a heavily asian populated area)

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That's never going to happen, those parties get branded racists and no one dares to vote them. Look at how well the Lib Dems are doing ;) IMHO that is the education that the kids receive today, you must bend over backwards to accomate other cultures. It will either work or it won't, I just hope I'm not around to see it if it doesn't

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Oh right, you mean the French, Italians, Poles, Maltese and Russians that followed over the last Thousand years. :D :D :D

I think we need to keep in mind that what we are talking about as only occured in the last 40 years or so. :) nevertheless I do agree with what is being expressed.

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Yeah and didn't he predict that the streets would run red!!!!





he wasn't far bloody wrong was he??



They snook in and took over bit by bit......and got the government on side too!!!




could just see us going over to their country and doing the same!!:rolleyes:









NOT:mad:

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I think I have expressed exactly who I mean in this thread!

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I went to a school carol service in Blackburn Cathedral today. My young relative's friend was a shepherd in the nativity. We sat next to her Mum, a doctor, who I presume is a Muslim because she was wearing a head scarf. She had no problem with her child celebrating a Christian celebration. As it bloody well should be.

If you live in what is historically a Christian country, you have to abide by those traditions, and in return respect will be shown to you to quietly get on with your own religions.

When in Rome do as the Romans do, and if that doesn't suit pack up your bags and go and live in a country that shares your beliefs, as long as you can live without free education, the NHS, social security, child benefits, family tax credits, unemployment benefits etc.

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yed but with each invasion the powers that be stood up and fought it
throughout history this little island has fought for its independance and now the chicken S...t leftys are just sitting back and letting us be overrun
if it aint the immigrants its the bloody europeans with their laws overriding british law

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When in Rome do as the Romans do, and if that doesn't suit pack up your bags and go and live in a country that shares your beliefs, as long as you can live without free education, the NHS, social security, child benefits, family tax credits, unemployment benefits etc.[/quote]


couldn't agree more...........well said

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i dont know if your around cashman but im not surprised by your small world type of comments. while i dont like too much pc eg giving community cohesion grants to doddering asian councillers imalso know that the english arnt whiter than white. what is wrong with living in any culture u want as long as your not an evil crim type. wat r u going to do to white muslims r u going to seend them to saudi you cant tell people wat to think av you met anarchists maybe u would learn something about people. u hav obviosly not been out of an accy type world

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Well the Americans and Australians wouldn't accept us to live in their country if we weren't self-sufficient so why should we have to accept scroungers.

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actually jedimaster most of that party are racists and thugs, the fact that they say what many people think and the 3 main parties will not, is to me a far more dangerous situation than any immigrant causes, cos ordinary folk get that brassed off with the main 3,they vote for them where they can.cos they dont see any other choice. and boy that is dangerous.

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I think it is actually more racist that the two major political parties arse lick ethnic minorities because they are after their votes.

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what everyone forgets with the whole immigration and especially the asylum crap is that asylum can only be applied for in the first country you land in
and as the majority of them come through france thats wher they should be shipped back to

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!

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Good point and long overdue part of the argument.......

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maybe cos its not their country tinks, america belonged to the indian, and australia the aboriginie, but thats another story.;)

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How do you know? Come on Cashy you can't say on one hand that you want equality back and then brand a party that would reflect your views as racist thugs. That party wants the same as you

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True to a point, but France does have it's share of asylum seekers applying to stay there, as does Tenerife, which is daily inundated with hundreds of west Africans.

Britain is still seen as the pot of asylum gold at the end of the rainbow though, because of our generous benefit system.

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at the end of the day what is racism
it is britsh people who are p....ed off with being pushed around by a government which will leave a british family to starve while an asian family can live in a £250000 house with 2 mercs on the drive and still claim a fortune in benefits cos they have'nt got jobs but own 3 housing estates a (all with corner shops) and 37 curry houses!!!!

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Britain is still seen as thwe pot of asylum gold at the end of the rainbow though, because of our generous benefit system.[/quote]

YEAH generous to those that are NOT british!!!!:mad:

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OMG ROFLMAO!!!!! :D :D :D :D



I applaud you!! I really do :D

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Benefits?

Plural?

You mean I should be getting more?:D

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still waiting for someone to come up with a reasonable argument for me not to be british


FREEDOM FOR TOOTING (SORRY ACCY)

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Do you like curry? :D

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Don't be british because


There are no jobs ( foreigners have taken them all.....yes even expressbiffs aren't taking us british on now)



Because ..........NO you can't have a council house!!!!



because kids have to go to school in their uniform when ETHNIC MINORITY get to go in there own clothes when it is Eid!!! ( yes this did happen at my kids school)




shall I go on??

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before you start on that one curry was a british invention created in inda during the indian wars to disguise the taste of rancid meat!!!!!!!


and no i hate the bloody stuff

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to jedi the reason for you not to be british is because the british r probably to embarresed for a numskull like u to be called briish. i know cos ive chatted to some posh brits and believe me they really r

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well i dont call myself british im english and may i add when i fill out forms that ask me what ethnic origin i am i dont tell them ,why should i, and why do the nosy gits want to know for ,

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It's only my opinion but you have a very poor argument spinner ........ and also text speak isn't allowed on accyweb. Use your English keyboard

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no it is an argument and it is a fact there are alternative views to yours and they are valid like it or not

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oh i didnt think the keyboard bit was funny

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so rather than structure an intellectual argument you would rather make a personal attack
and to be honest a very weak one at that
i must congratulate you on your argumentative prowess
unfortunately the majority of the backbone of this country (that being the people who work for a living) would have to disagree with your posh minority
however as it is this said minority that appear to dictate what the rest of us should say think and do there is not much chance of a solution to the problem
but your argument although virtually none existent has been duly noted and i thank you for your input



now kindly take your idiotic rantings to someone who gives a s..t

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So go a head and and give a valid opinion that we can reply to. Your just being offensive to the members to rise an argument.

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And no one on here will ever deny you the right to express your view :) But you should take the time to take in what other people are also expressing.

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i cant believe it this is the pot calling the kettle black doug thanks for that

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at the end of the day your all coward and if you dont like it than you can get off youre asses and complain to your good representative greg pope but you dont want to make an effort and unlike yous lot the posh minority are not in the 17th century anymore in fact people in the3rd century were more liberal i bet non of you know about the saxon king who i dont know if he was a muslim but he had islamic coins printed. there wasnt a hoo hah than i bet

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tinkerbelle im not so bloody sad that im trying to excite you with controversy wow what a analyser you are im impressed in fact i dont know why i am chattinh to midddle of the road accy redneck types youre just not cosmopolitan enough for the modern world and i feel sorry for you. i bet you eat chips on holiday and watch that dismal coronation street. wow

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Spinner, there is nothing wrong with Islam, it is one of the worlds most respected Religions and one that as given us many of the things that makes our lives what they are today, Its those that manipulate and currupt Islam for there own ends that we are ****ed off with.

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better to be a coward than stupid,i think,and no i dont know about that saxon king,but you dont seem to know that much either and your spouting about him. plus you cant call me a coward i always leave my name on the rare occasion i deduct karma.:D

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doug i agree but that was not the point im making it was live and let live unless your harming people what is wrong with that

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actually i'v travelled all over the world and lived among many cultures
however when in someone elses country i respect the customs and protocols of the people
and as for food as an ex chef i like nothing more than to sample local cuisine
some of which i may not like (however the snake, scorpion and sea horse were very nice in hong kong)


so spinner to lower myself to your level

nerrr (and a big raspberry)

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hmm so theres no child labour in your skinny latte

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I'm sure you have a valid point somewhere in those little fingers spinner. Keep trying we'll meet you half way. What comments exactly do you disagree with? Are you Asian? We don't have a problem with Asians I know alot of Chinese people who live side by side with us and respect our country. Or do you mean Muslims? Muslim is a religion followed by many Saudis and Kuwait's that find it possible to live side by side in a Christian country :)

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everyone has a diff opinion thats what i like but your argument wont change our way of thinking to suit you

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the point is i respect this country and not just the chinese if yoyuve got problems with the loutish attitude of some asians couldnt agree more why should the rest of us the the flack

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....... and if you read back I asked slink to clarify who she meant because all Asians should not be tarred with the same brush ;)



Now .... take my hand and lets get you down from that high ground your stood on then you can take part in a sensible (? :D ) debate :)

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anyway ive got a question did the british make pakistan a country,im sure i heard it was all india before?anyone

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no just proving the point that i am not the uncultured ignorant lout that you seem to think i am and that i have been more than willing to integrate with other cultures especially when in their homelands as should (and i use the term very loosely) GUESTS in ours and as it happens no i travelled to gain research for my job and the fact that you accuse me of being food cosmo just proves that you hav'nt really payed any attention to the above conversation as i'm sure i mentioned that i was a chef and yes that does mean that i know more than a little about food

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sorry no edit button
meant to say they are both anglo-indian

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Blair will say anything if it will gain him Brownie points Ianto.W. He speaks with forked tongue.

The British did not integrate in India and Iraq spinner (post #10) because they went in as INVADERS and not IMMIGRANTS.

However the Muslims are entering this country as INVADERS pretending to be IMMIGRANTS.

There are now some one and a half million Muslim ‘immigrants’ in this country in numerous ‘enclaves’ up and down the country. They have their own Muslim courts that currently only deal with civil problems but are looking at ways of using these courts for criminal offences.

The Muslim community is not integrating but slowly trying to take over and we are bending over backwards to let it happen. Ignore this infiltration at your peril.

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i dont want to sound liek one of these paranoid racist kind but jambutty does have a point

they have their own law system which they are trying to make more powerfull

they have had their own banks and banking system for years seperate from ours

they have their own comunities

it could be seen as that they are setting up a skeleton economy and judicial system under our own

whats next ? their own military ?

like i said thats how it can LOOK to some people but when a group of people decide they wanyt their own rules and dont want to live by everyone elses its bound to cause problems

i would liek to add that its not all muslims that want their own laws etc as there are quite a lot of muslims in accrington alone who enjoy their weekends out boozing and living life the english way

ime christian but definatly not a practicing christian just like all people born muslims arnt practicing muslims , its the parents that decide our faith but its later on in life that we decide if we want to follow it or not

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at the end of the day it is not a question of faith
the underlying problem is a total disrespect for the british way of life cultures customs and these people having a total disregard for our governmental and judicial system aided by the fatcat beauracrats who haven't got the guts to stand up for the majority who have had enough
(see my follow on thread)

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I agree with Cashman,I lived abroad for many years and I had to integrate, so why is it such a big deal for people to integrate here,this is a Christian country,we let every Tom Dick and Harry come here,live by our rules and if you don't like it by all means go back to where you came from,its THAT simple,I am NOT being racist here btw,far from it,I was born and bred in Toxteth,which is probably one of the most diverse places in Britain,I hate being dictated to by the PC brigade,the more I see and hear their bile the more I think we should stand up for ourselves AS a nation and just say the words,GO HOME if you don't like our way of life

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people know what this country is like before they get here so if they dont like the way we live and run things then they shouldnt come here

like it has been said before though the beneifts system is tooooo generous to imigrants if you go to usa of australia you have to be able to support yourself