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women, age and pregnancy
At what age would be right for a woman to stop trying for a baby?
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Yeah your too old :D:D
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about 17 i reckon.:tongueout
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lol, ok thats me stuffed then(not literally) and no i aint pregnant
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was that the right choice of words?
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it wasnt was it lol
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I think that women should feel free to have babies for as long as they naturally can. It's only when I read about women having babies in their 50s and 60s through IVF that I think it's wrong.
The menopause is there for a reason. We are not designed to have babies in our 50s and 60s. :( |
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We are getting more women in their 40s now, than ever before. The only problem with that is that some serious pregnancy related conditions (pre-eclampsia in particular), can be more likely in the 'older' mother, making pregnancy more dangerous. I know that IVF has helped a lot of people but I think that it is ridiculous that women of 50-60 are paying to get pregnant when the risks are really huge.
Having said that, obesity causes bigger risks in pregnancy and a large amount of maternal deaths are directly linked to being overweight. I know that most IVF clinics will not help you if your BMI is above 30 these days. :) |
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I too think ya should stop when ya at the age that ya cannot conceive naturally
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well im classed as being obese so thats me not having anymore little uns aint it
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nah yer not a beast flashy.:D
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according to the doctors i am lol
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It's all kak Flashy...some bods on her have openly put forward sterilization for young women..yes!
As for any age I presume we are talking the more mature women.. if it's nature then no problem.. if it is forced against nature then I havent got a clue. |
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well i'm 32, had my son when i was 20, if i had another one now there would be a 12/13 year age gap, is that age gap too big?
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I know someone with this age gap between her children
Youngest just started school this time and she (mum) seems happy enough and the kids She is older than you too, 40 ish |
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As for age, Rhonda is 40 on Sunday and Emily is only 3. |
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i dont go out Neil, so thats not a problem :D
stop being nasty to yer mrs, she doesnt look a day older than 39 ;) |
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She is 361 days over 39 and increasing daily :D
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Flashy, theres 25 years between me and Euan so 12/13's not that bad :D
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Im 27 and have decided to get sterilised as i dont want to go through another section. A lot of people are against it saying that im not thinking straight and that i will regret it in a few years time.
The thing is i really dont want any more kids, i think 2 is enough and i have the couple, if i could have the 3rd baby natural then yeah i would but i know i cant as i have been told that the 3rd one would be a section. |
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I tend to think along the lines of 'mother nature'. If a woman has passed her natural child bearing years then nature is telling us that she is too old to be a Mum. Unfortunately that happens to some people when they are younger than others. It also happens that younger women don't necessarily conceive when they would like to. I would have loved to have had my children when I was younger but it just didn't happen.
It seems tragic too when you see people who have numerous children but don't seem to care for them or look after them properly and others who would dearly love to be parents just aren't able to. You are the only one who knows your own personal situation Yolande and if you know you couldn't go through that again then what you are doing is sensible for you. |
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Are you broody Flashy?
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i only have a 1% chance of every having anymore anyway, i may get over this broodyness, might just be a stage i'm going through |
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Least your thinking about it and going thro the pro's and con's 1st
Was gonna suggest borrowing one, am sure some sleep deprived parents out there wouldn't mind lol But... it could make it worse... for you I mean lol |
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Im broody too (again!) but unfortunately Corker isn't up for it (excuse the pun haha), and we dont have enough money for another....or the room, or the energy, or the patience really, so can't see it happening for us.not for a while anyway.
I know 20 women who ae currently pregnant and a few of my friends have just had their babies which really isn't making things easy for me tbh :( |
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because i may not be able to have another its making me want one (if that sounds right) its the old case of wanting something you cant have i suppose
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well you can have fun trying anyway!
What does your fella think? |
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lol Richard doesnt want one (he aint actually mi fella, just mi 'friend') i'm off the pill now, we've talked about it and he knows the score, we are using protection, i'm not the sort of person to trap a man so protection all the way until i actually meet someone that i want to be with
it might take years, it might never happen at all, but i dont intend just sleeping with someone to get what i want |
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lol, ya want it but cant have it? ahhh poor cashy :(
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If you have sex 100 times will one time make you pregnant? Is so will having sex 1000 times give you a 10% chance? :confused: |
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I don't believe doctors when they give you statistics like that.After a suspected miscarriage at 18 i was told i wouldn't be able to have children........3 years later (and not planned) i proved that doctor wrong....seriosuly, i know lots of people that have been told there chances of concieving are very low and have gone on to have children.Im not saying they are completely wrong as all circumstances are different but after going through the stress of thinking i would never have children to then be pregnant 3 years later i just don't think doctors should be able to throw these percentages around.
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It is what i want, thanks bernie, i mean at the moment i have to wait to see my gp for my post-natal appoitment and then i will mention about it but the midwife told me that i will have to wait at least 12months to get sterilised and thats if my gp dont say no cuz my mate told me that some gp's are against getting women done so young, if they said no then i will have to get the implant on my arm cuz i think that lasts up to 5 years if im not wrong, will see what happens
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I got pregnant with my bf after 3 times of sexual intercourse same with the second kid so it just depends, i hitted the jackpot twice and without any effort lol
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i have pcos you plant pot lol |
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reminds me of a time that i was lying on the bed and Corker started talking about when 'you get started'......i said: "i have started mate,this is me for the next 3 hours".... :D:D:D |
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Im 41 and not had a baby ........ im not broody. I'd be one of those high risk mothers to be that lettie is talking about.
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Have you ever been broody Jen?
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have you ever wanted kids Jen?
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snap lol
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LOL!and it was the two broody ones that asked.
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Why don't you young ens look at this from a grannie's point of view.
When having babies in 20s age decade was the norm, grannies were in their 40s and more able to help. If people wait till they are in their 40s we will need creches in the nursing homes for the elderly:rolleyes: |
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That is true but these days grannies are enjoying their life as much as us in in our 20's!
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I meant at 40-so it makes no difference.
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I became a granny at 42 and so was useful to my family without much effort.(I had my son early 20s -he had his first early 20s ie 20+20=40)
Some of my friends who are in their mid 60s like me, are doing what I did in my 40s and early 50s, and it is seriously exhausting them. The next generation of grannies will be in their 80s if this trend for late births continues. |
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I would like another baby but it's not looking too promising, I am 41 now and currently single ! :rolleyes: Would be a big age gap between any baby and my nearly 13 year old daughter, and she doesn't want any siblings ! I wouldn't entertain the idea of being single and pregnant on purpose, it's far too much to cope with, unless you are rich enough to not work and able to employ a full time nanny !
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I only wanted them if i was in a serious relationship/wed ....... due to everything else i've known since i was 16 what i'd have to go through to have a child. If i'd have been 'caught out' the baby would probably have to have been aborted. I looked after my nieces and nephews and looked after my mum. One of my sisters said that i would make a great mum ... but im not. Still got time yet tho havent i:D:D. But i do know what i've got to go through .... and i dont think i'm well enough to do it at the minute. |
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Well, you got your baby to look after ... Spuggie of course :D, lots of us don't ever have what you two appear to have (even if married) .. x
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Just wait till i tell him what you said katex ........ :D:D:D |
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:rolleyes: terrible Neil, just terrible |
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My mum was nearly 41 and my dad was 48 when i was born .... i never knew my grandparents on my dads side and only knew my granny on my mums side ... my granddad died when i was nearly 2 and Granny died when i was 12 i only saw her for 2 weeks a year.
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What a cheery thread this just turning into
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I think women should stop breeding when they are in their 30's, over that is getting too old!
Think about it, you have a kid at 40 when ya 60 ya kid will be only 20, when ya 70 ya kid will be only 30...dont think id like a old mum at that age:( BUT some may differ:rolleyes: But i do not agree with women in the 50's or 60's having babies, that is just disgusting!!!, fancy saying to ya mates ya got a 75 year old mum!!, especially when ya only 15, because she had ya at 60!!.....:eek: |
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I think even back in the 50s, when I was born, there were a lot of older grandparents. My gran didn't have my mum till she was in her 40s - 1933 -(last born of a large family), as was often the case back then. So even though my mum was only 20 when she had me, my gran was in her 60s when I was born. By the time I was 10, I seemed to be looking after her quite often rather than the other way round.
Things have changed these days though, older people now tend to have more things to enjoy and feel free to do so, rather than just child minding their grandchildren, much as they love them. I will have had experience of both scenarios I suppose. Was a grandma at 44 by son number 3. And expect I will be via my younger sons eventually (18 at the mo)so will probably be in my 60s for that. :) By the way flashy, had the twins when I was 36. yes they were planned before anyone asks. :D Well one was lol! By that time older ones were 17 16, 14 & 12 Never been any problem with the age gap. :) |
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lol , my mum was 18 when she had me and i was 18 when i had ty.. i didnt know my grandma because she died one my 1st birthday... my other grandparents are alive and i am very close to my grandad :D i have only recently lost 3 great-grandparents and my great-grandad is still alive (94 and going strong!!)
i have friends with older parents, my dad is 48 and they just had euan, but if anything happens to them then he has me, i have a family already and will take him on (same with my other brothers and sisters) I think its all down to when the woman feels ready for children, i had ty young because i was ready to,not so that i would have help from my young parents (which i dont anyway) this time i will be 26 and still wont have any help.. If you are ready then you are ready and its better that way. |
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Same as they don't see it as a problem now when I'm 55 and they are 18. Depends what sort of person you are I suppose, and what you put in to your relationship with your kids, young or old. I think they would probably agree that I have put more in my relationship with them than some younger parents of their peers have. :) |
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Must have misunderstood that then?:) |
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Do you think they should be embarassed panther? I get the impression you do. :)
Like I said it depends on your relationship with them, and surely by the age of 30 they will be too mature for that kind of attitude any way? I would think so. I know my two are already. :) |
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just the thought of not having them around to see there grandkids, not being able to see them grow up, if they are lucky they might. my mum is only 62 im 36, her eldest would have been 42, and her eldest grandson is 21, so at 62 she may live to see her great grandkids, but having kids late you may not which is sad IMO |
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Some kids never get to see their grandparents anyway, or at least remember them. I don't remember either of my grand dads, both died by the time I was one. You adapt to the situation you are in. My parents due to what ever their motives are, have not kept contact with me or their older grandchildren. My youngest have never seen them. They are alive and kicking somewhere! Their loss, as they really would have something to be proud of.
Once asked The twins (Nick & Scott...must stop saying the twins) if they thought they had missed out, especially considering their grandparents are still alive. They said no. They have many older people who they relate to, from various walks of life, have always had enough love and attention. so not a problem.:) |
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My granny was in northern ireland .... i saw her for 2 weeks a year sometimes only 1. Any kid i have wont have grandparents from my side, my nieces and nephews and great nephew were lucky they knew my mum great niece wont remember her as she was 7 months old when she died. Thing is there is always people around - neighbours, friends and other family members that are around that will take the place of grandma and/or grandad.
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I suppose I've got it both ways, so to speak. I had my eldest child the day before my 21st birthday and my son 17 months later so they're both in their mid 40s. My daughter was 12 and my son 10 when my younger daughter, now 32, was born; quite a gap.
I never knew any of my grandparents as my dad was orphaned when he was a little boy and my mum, who was the youngest of 8 children, lost her mother early and her father just 4 years before I was born. As a child I felt very deprived - I longed for a gran and grampa. Thankfully my children knew my parents well, though we never lived close to them, and had a lovely relationship with them. We lost my dad when Nik, my youngest, was only 10 but she remembers him very well and loved him to bits (it was mutual - my dad adored children). My grandson was also 10 when my husband died. Their relationship was a bit different as Peter's father had walked out on him when he was a few weeks old and his grampa was a substitute dad. They were incredibly close and, when my husband died very suddenly, Peter was devastated. Laura was born 4 years later so she never knew him but she does have her daddy's parents - and me. I do think it's good for a child to have grandparents around and I don't think it's ideal to have parents the same age as your friends' grandparents. The most important thing, though, is to have parents who are capable of doing the job! I felt the difference in my physical capabilities between having 2 small children in my 20s and having 1 small child in my 30s. Dealing with a small grandson, in my 40s, was a doddle - because I could give him back to his mum after a day or a weekend here and dealing with a granddaughter in my 50s and 60s has been great because she lives here and so does her mum. No way could I have coped with one of my own at either age. |
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Well said Jen.
Maybe we should be more concerned with the grandparents at 30ish. Mother's at 14, who begat daughters who got pregnant at similar age... What sort of grandparents do they make?? not tarring all with same brush, but bears thinking about.... Sorry for highjacking your thread Flashy, but just sort of happened! |
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Admit that I found it difficult at first, at 36, but that may have been down to the 2 for 1 offer I got, lol, plus having 4 teenagers at home at the time. Plus by the time they were 2 I was a single parent again. Once The older ones left home, not long after, didn't find it a problem, even on my own.
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After reading through this, all you broody ones (crazy folk that you are!!) I will loan you the twins for a week lol
They are the best form of contraception for me, after having them I know for sure that I will not be wanting / having anymore lol |
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They can have my kids too LOL
No im proud of my kids, looks like iv brought em up well....but im no way broody!!...im getting ready live my life again in a few years when my youngest is older....dont want another screaming poo machine thankyou very much!!:D |
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I am proud of my 2, but I know just how tiring (both physically and mentally) it is having young children and Im not going through it all again lol
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What do you mean? :D They are little angels when they come here;) they dont misbehave . play up, throw tantrums. what more could you ask for:D Oh by the way jim has managed to salvage the walkie talkie radios that they threw in the water :rolleyes::rolleyes:...roflmao!!!!!;):D:rofl38::ro fl38::rofl38: |
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You never know how long you are going to love so saying older grandparents won't be around isn't always the case. My first husband died when our children were only 7 and 10 so he didn't get chance to be a parent for all that long never mind a grandparent. On the other hand I k ow people who live on into their 80s and 90s. You just never know.
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I have 17 years between my two children, I was 39. The only thing I worried about with my son was Down's Syndrome .. refused the amniocentesis because of the risks,(although new tests coming along now), and this child at 16 weeks with results 4 weeks later, was rippling in my womb and I was already deeply in love with it. Turned out OK thank goodness.
Yes, I do worry that I will never see my son married or one of his children (he doesn't appear to be in any push at the moment :rolleyes:). I handled my age quite well, but did find that with my grandaughter appearing 7 years later, and having to look after her over and above the normal of 'you can hand them back at the end of the day', not particularly easy ... working in Manchester too. Wasn't so much the looking after her, reading stories, playing board games etc., that was a piece of cake ... just the patience to come down to their level of age .. ya' know acting daft running around, not being able to take your attention away from her, pulling funny faces a little tiresome. We are also forgetting the fellas here too, remember your sperm also has a fertility clock from 40 years onward and takes a nosedive which can throw up genetic problems in your offspring. So Flashy .. don't go for an older man .. :D |
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Nah dont worry bout it em . You should know by now hun its a kid friendly zone here there isnt much they can bring harm or damage too . infact they are doing great they seem to know just where they can play now. think they been watching his lordship lol.. :D |
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There is 15 years between me and my eldest sister ........ and she had her first child when i was 6 1/2 ....... less of a difference between me and my niece than me and my brother!!! My mum looked after my niece for the first 3 years and then she went to a childminder nearer to home and nursery.
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