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Less 15-11-2008 15:15

Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
A certain member has the following link to another web page in his signature:-

Quote:

Visit Conservative Forum Today!

Formerly known as Cyfr
Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't such links supposed to reciprocate and put a link to accyweb for them to remain?
If I'm wrong then I apologise, however, accyweb isn't an advertising area for political views, we have enough problems with day to day threads without someone pushing forward their political beliefs on the rest of us.


I would say the same if it was Labour or the Liberals please leave accyweb alone, you have your beliefs others have theirs let's try our best to keep accyweb neutral ground!
:o

garinda 15-11-2008 15:51

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You'd expect a moderator would know the rules.:D

I hope it's removed, because if it was reciprocated, and Accy Web had a link on the other site, I don't think I could cope if we were invaded.:eek::D

cashman 15-11-2008 18:17

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if theres a doubt? then this thread question should be sent to the mods, i reckon.

Caz 15-11-2008 18:35

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If nothing else, it is at least "Net Etiquette" to reciprocate the link! :)

K-P 15-11-2008 18:50

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If its in your signature it doesn't count as advertising on accyeweb (even though it is) so long as its a link to your own website..

Gayle 15-11-2008 18:58

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
I've had a look to see where the link takes you and I wouldn't worry Less, there's not going to be floods of people heading our way - there's only two people on there.

cashman 15-11-2008 23:50

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 651115)
If its in your signature it doesn't count as advertising on accyeweb (even though it is) so long as its a link to your own website..

fair enough if thats the case, its put to bed.:D;)

garinda 16-11-2008 00:25

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 651121)
I've had a look to see where the link takes you and I wouldn't worry Less, there's not going to be floods of people heading our way - there's only two people on there.


On second thoughts.:rolleyes:

It might be fun to toy with David Davis.:D

derekgas 16-11-2008 08:30

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I am pretty sure I asked permission before putting my web address in, anyway, I will be corrected if I am wrong, having 2 businesses, I have 2 websites, but there is only a section to put one in, so if I am not told otherwise, I may change about! :D

Mick 16-11-2008 08:42

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Providing there is a link back to accyweb there is no problem

derekgas 16-11-2008 08:45

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Just had a look Mick, and dont see one, but will have when I get in monday! :D

Less 16-11-2008 13:09

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 651085)
if theres a doubt? then this thread question should be sent to the mods, i reckon.


No cashy I think it's something we should all be able to debate about, what happens when someone from one of the obnoxious loony party's puts a link in their signature?
All reasonably minded people may object to such a link but how could that be removed if in all fairness a link to other political sites is allowed?
:o

andrewb 16-11-2008 13:42

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I don't personally think it matters whether the link is 'political' or not. Everyone has views. The world would be a pretty dull place without peoples opinions.

Less 16-11-2008 13:47

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 651286)
I don't personally think it matters whether the link is 'political' or not. Everyone has views. The world would be a pretty dull place without peoples opinions.

Fair enough and when someone does put another link in how are you going to decide that it should be removed?

I have no problem with your political views however, I do think this particular link leaves the site open to abuse from fringe politics, better to have no such links than you being accused of bias later, when the inevitable happens.

andrewb 16-11-2008 13:55

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I think the problem there is 'where do you stop'. I mean, my personal blog is quite political, should that also be removed?

I think what you propose is really interesting though. My University Union had a 'No Platform' policy, which expired this year, and the executive decided not to keep it. Essentially what it did was removed the right of the BNP, Hizb ut-Tahrir and some other extreme political organisations from speaking, leafleting and existing within the union building.

There were lots of arguments put up on both sides, and I think it would make a really interesting thread in general chat if you wanted to start it. :)

Less 16-11-2008 13:59

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 651292)
I think the problem there is 'where do you stop'. I mean, my personal blog is quite political, should that also be removed?

I think what you propose is really interesting though. My University Union had a 'No Platform' policy, which expired this year, and the executive decided not to keep it. Essentially what it did was removed the right of the BNP, Hizb ut-Tahrir and some other extreme political organisations from speaking, leafleting and existing within the union building.

There were lots of arguments put up on both sides, and I think it would make a really interesting thread in general chat if you wanted to start it. :)

I've already started a thread here thanks.

I will await the time when someone does post such a link and how you will deal with it and the inevitable flak that will come with it.

andrewb 16-11-2008 14:01

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As I say, do you think its right to have my personal blog linked?

Less 16-11-2008 14:07

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 651295)
As I say, do you think its right to have my personal blog linked?

I'll allow you to debate that one with your conscience at the moment I'm discussing your signature and the fact that the site should at least appear unbiased.

Or perhaps you could add something such as:-

Other Political Parties are available

and put a link in for them.;)

andrewb 16-11-2008 14:11

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I certainly won't be hand holding to peoples political beliefs, I'm not the BBC. :P

I own both sites, and both are just a series of opinions. Is it just the title that bothers you? :D

Less 16-11-2008 14:21

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 651298)
I certainly won't be hand holding to peoples political beliefs, I'm not the BBC. :P

I own both sites, and both are just a series of opinions. Is it just the title that bothers you?


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less Post #1=
I would say the same if it was Labour or the Liberals please leave accyweb alone, you have your beliefs others have theirs let's try our best to keep accyweb neutral ground!
I think that should give you a clue as to what I think, if you don't agree fair enough but, just remember this could come back on you sometime in the future when you have to deal with someone that puts a link in and then objects when you remove it.

andrewb 16-11-2008 14:24

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I wasn't referring to if you cared that 'Conservative' was in the title. I meant both links in my sig contain political material so I am just wondering why it is one rather than the other that you are concerned about.

Less 16-11-2008 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 651301)
I wasn't referring to if you cared that 'Conservative' was in the title. I meant both links in my sig contain political material so I am just wondering why it is one rather than the other that you are concerned about.

I chose the one I mentioned, if you think the blog is just as bad then maybe you should remove both so that you can attempt to be neutral.

andrewb 16-11-2008 15:00

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I will always be neutral if I had to moderate anything. The more experienced moderators would have me hung drawn and quartered if not. :p

shillelagh 16-11-2008 17:39

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I mentioned this before .....and nowt was done about it ...

garinda 16-11-2008 18:12

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
I can see Less's point, and think it very valid.

What would happen if a member linked an extremist website to their signature? It doesn't really matter if they own the site, or if it's someone elses.

There must be some rules, otherwise the system will be too open to abuse.

Perhaps the blog link could be kept on a member's profile page, as long as the rules about reciprocation are followed?

Neil 16-11-2008 18:16

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I think it is terrible to link to a site in your sig without there being a link back ;)

cashman 16-11-2008 19:49

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 651280)
No cashy I think it's something we should all be able to debate about, what happens when someone from one of the obnoxious loony party's puts a link in their signature?
All reasonably minded people may object to such a link but how could that be removed if in all fairness a link to other political sites is allowed?
:o

after much thought, i come down on the Less side of this.we all got political or religious views, which are argued/ discussed on here, but radical political views could be linked on here if this remained, its a problem that is NOT needed.

K-P 16-11-2008 20:31

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Mountains Molehills :)








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garinda 16-11-2008 20:42

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 651505)
Mountains Molehills :)

I bet there were people saying similar things in 1933.;)

Royboy39 16-11-2008 21:20

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K-P (Post 651505)
Mountains Molehills :)
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K-P I agree but extracting the urine of a moderator is something that should be looked at.
Does Andrewb have to ask permission?
If you are testing him then go for it.
I don't think Mick would tolerate this behavour.
An extemist website...I don't think so.
Supporters are one thing.....bigots are quite something else. :)

Less 16-11-2008 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 651543)
K-P I agree but extracting the urine of a moderator is something that should be looked at.
Does Andrewb have to ask permission?
If you are testing him then go for it.
I don't think Mick would tolerate this behavour.
An extemist website...I don't think so.
Supporters are one thing.....bigots are quite something else. :)

Hello Royboy, my word doesn't time fly? My turn again? I thought you were busy having a go at rindy and a few others didn't expect to hear from you for a while, still, we should be used to it by now with your short attention span we never know where you will turn up next, we only know it won't be a pleasant experience!

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Royboy39 16-11-2008 21:45

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 651559)
Hello Royboy, my word doesn't time fly? My turn again? I thought you were busy having a go at rindy and a few others didn't expect to hear from you for a while, still, we should be used to it by now with your short attention span we never know where you will turn up next, we only know it won't be a pleasant experience!

http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-9532.gif

Suirely you don't expect a 'I am better that thou' free passage all the time.
Having a go at Rindy is fine, he is a big lad and can stand it.
The few others seem to jump on the skirts or threads of the ones that you are involved in.
I communicate with members as I find them without problems.
:rolleyes:

cashman 16-11-2008 21:53

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 651543)
K-P I agree but extracting the urine of a moderator is something that should be looked at.
Does Andrewb have to ask permission?
If you are testing him then go for it.
I don't think Mick would tolerate this behavour.
An extemist website...I don't think so.
Supporters are one thing.....bigots are quite something else. :)

yer lookin at this all wrong i reckon, if you don't think so then that is naive, i never say never, also nothing to do with bigotry as was said earlier " any political party" perhaps you are being the bigot here? i wonder.

Less 16-11-2008 22:01

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 651564)
I communicate with members as I find them without problems.
:rolleyes:

The funny thing is you seem to find them worthy only of your scorn.

Which is very tiresome for quite a few of us, Still, looking at the time another long night on the rum so, I'll let you get back to it.

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garinda 16-11-2008 22:36

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Socialist Workers Party.

Animal Liberation Front.

B.N.P.

Any one of the many militant religious groups.

If you allow one, then I'm afraid you'll have to allow them all.

cashman 16-11-2008 23:00

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 651604)
Socialist Workers Party.

Animal Liberation Front.

B.N.P.

Any one of the many militant religious groups.

If you allow one, then I'm afraid you'll have to allow them all.

agree but thats bigotry to some.:rolleyes:

garinda 17-11-2008 00:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 651616)
agree but thats bigotry to some.:rolleyes:

More like blinkered to me.:(

Less 17-11-2008 00:18

Re: Isn't this a bit of a no, no?
 
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 651619)
More like blinkered to me.:(

Can we get back off thread?
:cool:


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