Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058057)

because brian may is going pay for immunisation and dont remember anything on the the news of an epidemic of tb in cows .this is just a cash cow for loonies with guns,

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1058082)

What's the problem with badgers? Is it a disease thing; or are they just a pest? And how is the cull gonna take place? Will wildlife officers do the culling?

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1058082)

What's the problem with badgers? Is it a disease thing; or are they just a pest? And how is the cull gonna take place? Will wildlife officers do the culling?

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1058095)

I spend most weekends in the Principality and interestingly the Welsh have decided against the cull.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth;

I think the science is proved but badgers are so cute it's got emotional. If it was rats no one would bother.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1058100)

Unfortunately we have a thread starter that won't put forward facts, I wish the badgers could be spared, however if it were practicable to vaccinate the badgers, somehow I think it would already have been done.
TB testing of cattle has kept it away from all of us, not the best way to die ask mags, she'll have the details.

So long as it's done as humanely as possible rather than for badger baiting sport, should we object to keeping farmers and their well cared for cattle safe?

One bad cow can ruin many lives, I know, I married one.
:o

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058129)

ithen youve got the hooray henrys who just want to shoot everything including us poor peasants;)

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1058093)

Anyway, the EU says no so that's it.
If tested positive the cow has to be destroyed.

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1058143)

As it stands the assumption of Badgers being the cause of BTB hasn't been conclusively proven, more cases tend to arise through bad animal husbandry than spread through an outside agent.

The Cull gained favour because it's easier, less labour intensive & cheaper than a programme of vaccination. The Badger protection act came into force in 1992 (consolidating various earlier acts)& since then they've thrived. Like everything that was once under threat of decimation, an act of protection is passed, they recover, over populate & are once more the subject of debate & questions over their status.

It's even easier if they can be scapegoated for something or other making them a more viable target.

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058129)

in fact youve got some farmers who support vaccination then youve got the hooray henrys who just want to shoot everything including us poor peasants;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058133)

Other Causes of Bovine TB Spread
You could be forgiven for thinking that Bovine TB wasn’t correctly named; if you were to read an article from the NFU or Defra you would probably think that the disease was actually ‘Badger’ TB, an infection originating from, spread and hosted by our native wildlife.

The truth is Bovine TB is a disease of cattle, the bacteria evolved to infect cattle and is chiefly spread between cattle. Badgers became involved in this whole debate as they, like many other warm-bodied mammals, are a vector (an animal which is able to ‘carry’ the disease) for bTB.

When a previously uininfected herd suddenly develops the infection, it is often incorrectly assumed that it must have been passed on via the wildlife reservoir; but is that really the case?

Yesterday this artcile was published, stating that bTB had spread to the border of Cumbria and Lancashire most likely due to “bought-in infection from high-risk countries”.

Earlier this week, this article, told the story of a vet being struck-off for not properly conducting TB tests on cattle.

The Farmers Weekly have reported on breaches in health and safety concerning Bovine TB samples.

There are countless stories about rogue farmers illegally swapping ear tags; Vets Online, Westmorland, Farmers Weekly, Bovinetb, etc.

And various others concerning other fraudulent activities concerning cattle; Farmers Weekly, Darlington, ThisisGloucestershire, Farmers Guardian…

These are just a few of countless articles available online and until these issues have been thoroughly delt with a cull on wildlife should not go ahead.

well well it has nothing to do with badgers they were infected.so really it should be a cull of irresponsible farmers.

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1058187)

Rabies was almost completely eliminated by doctored bait in Western Europe - why not the same for badgers and vaccinate all cows?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1058203)

Nice cut and paste job C'Mon;)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058250)

people are missing the point,the badgers got infected by cheap imported cows from abroad.it was poor farming that caused the so called outbreak,just like mad cow disease and foot and mouth.this is just a money making scam which will never work.

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1058284)

On a more serious note folks, aren't they such lovely fluffy creatures though!!!

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1058284)

On a more serious note folks, aren't they such lovely fluffy creatures though!!!

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058314)

you would do the same if somebody 4 times as big tried to pick you up.:D

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1058375)

Have you seen Cmon?

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1058284)

On a more serious note folks, aren't they such lovely fluffy creatures though!!!

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1058293)

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058314)

you would do the same if somebody 4 times as big tried to pick you up.:D

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1058492)

People often say that when they see my lovely dog Arnold, it's not true, just a bad press.Bless his little cotton socks!!! Lol