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Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 01:48

New £1 coin
 
A new £1 coin, designed to be the "most secure in the world", is set to be introduced in 2017.

BBC News - New £1 coin to be introduced to combat counterfeiting.

I think it's looks abit like the thruppenny bit.
Is the changing of all our machines that take £1s going to out way the cost of forgery?

While the Queen's head will be on the obverse side, the Treasury has said there will be a public competition to decide the image on the other other side? Hmmm :D

Michael1954 19-03-2014 03:43

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098439)

I think it's looks abit like the thruppenny bit.
Is the changing of all our machines that take £1s going to out way the cost of forgery?

The trolleys with the £1 slot at Morrisons and other supermarkets will also have to be changed.

Neil 19-03-2014 04:00

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1098440)
The trolleys with the £1 slot at Morrisons and other supermarkets will also have to be changed.

Maybe not, it says the new coin will be a similar size to the old one

DaveinGermany 19-03-2014 05:11

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1098441)
Maybe not, it says the new coin will be a similar size to the old one

Aye Neil, but governments say lots of things that are nowhere near the reality or truth. :)

Studio25 19-03-2014 07:12

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098439)
...Is the changing of all our machines that take £1s going to out way the cost of forgery?...

*outweigh

DtheP47 19-03-2014 07:14

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The flats around the edge will be great for using a spanner on to get em out of some of my mates hands when it's their round at the Forts. ;)

No names no pack drill !

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 07:25

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I must admit the quality of fake £1 coins has certainly increased, I wonder how long it's going to be before we hear the word 'fake' attributed to these,it's got to happen.
I remember about 15 years ago the fake ones looked and felt awful and if you rubbed a real and fake one together the fake ones coulour scraped off (probably because they was done in ford cortina gold). They also sounded different if you rattled them,due to the amount of lead used but now you'd struggle to tell them apart.

I remember the £1 notes,perhaps they want to switch from paper money altogether,they tried the £5 coin I wonder how long before we see a £20 coin?

Still don't know why we put the portrait of one of the biggest 'scroungers' on our money tho, seems ironic really considering lizard liz has never earned an honest pound :eek:

:hidewall:

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 07:28

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1098446)
The flats around the edge will be great for using a spanner on to get em out of some of my mates hands when it's their round at the Forts. ;)

How long before the edges round off though an it becomes a old one :eek: ;)

maxthecollie 19-03-2014 07:42

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I feel sorry for the blind people,they will have to get use to a different shape again.

DtheP47 19-03-2014 07:44

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098449)
How long before the edges round off though an it becomes a old one :eek: ;)

The old thruppenny bits were a marvel of geometry having the ability to roll as I recall. Some tefal head on here will tell me the geometric term I am sure. I don't recall them showing much sign of wear round the periphery AccyX.

Less 19-03-2014 08:03

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Changing the coin mechs to take the new coins is done by electronic programming in most machines these days.
Think back about ten years or so, when the size of the 5,10,20 & 50p coins were changed, all the machines were converted almost over night.
Having said that, maybe the Gov' has actually created a few temporary jobs for someone to go around changing the mechanical ones in shopping trolleys?

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 08:59

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1098456)
Changing the coin mechs to take the new coins is done by electronic programming in most machines these days.
Think back about ten years or so, when the size of the 5,10,20 & 50p coins were changed, all the machines were converted almost over night.
Having said that, maybe the Gov' has actually created a few temporary jobs for someone to go around changing the mechanical ones in shopping trolleys?

If that's the case less,the costs won't outweigh the cost of forgery.
Perhaps the markets will start selling trolley tokens.
Anyway I'm off for a thruppenny ;)

DtheP47 19-03-2014 09:21

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098459)
If that's the case less,the costs won't outweigh the cost of forgery.
Perhaps the markets will start selling trolley tokens.
Anyway I'm off for a thruppenny ;)

The circumference of the new coin will be the same as the existing £1 so they will fit and operate simple mechanisms as in a supermarket trolley so no modifications necessary.

DaveinGermany 19-03-2014 10:48

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1098460)
so they will fit and operate simple mechanisms

Slotty addicts? :)

DtheP47 19-03-2014 10:54

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1098466)
Slotty addicts? :)

Do you remember DinG, pre euro when the old shilling (10p) coin worked in the deutsche mark slots over there? ;) Great for phoning home on the cheap (allegedly)

Still do in some places.

Margaret Pilkington 19-03-2014 11:23

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098449)
How long before the edges round off though an it becomes a old one :eek: ;)

This didn't happen with the old threepenny bits so what makes you think it will happen with the new pound coins.
According to recent reports 3% of pound coins in circulation are fake.

Margaret Pilkington 19-03-2014 11:25

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I use a trolley token anyway for the supermarket trolley.

Eric 19-03-2014 11:55

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On the Canadian toonie the design is an image of the Queen with a bear behind.:D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nie_-_back.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ie_-_front.png

Margaret Pilkington 19-03-2014 11:56

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1098470)
This didn't happen with the old threepenny bits so what makes you think it will happen with the new pound coins.
According to recent reports 30% of pound coins in circulation are fake.

Correction - that should read 3%.
Didn't spot that sneaky zero until it was too late.

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 13:08

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According to this I've 2 fake £1 coins in my pocket 'right now' :eek:
Counterfeit One Pound Coins | The Royal Mint

Will these criminal masterminds not just focus their efforts on another coin,say 50p-£2 coin or on notes?
I'm pretty sure it won't be long before we see snide versions of this new "most secure in the world" one.

Coin mechanisms tend to have a limited life anyway.I assume machines mechs will just be replaced as they are due. Like less said some machines are easy to configure for new coinage - it's something that happens from time to time, so good designers probably factor it in.
I kind of like this new one,it's quirky and as long as it's still bulky like the old one "it's all good" as they say.

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 13:12

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1098470)
This didn't happen with the old threepenny bits so what makes you think it will happen with the new pound coins.
According to recent reports 30% of pound coins in circulation are fake.

I don't Margaret,it was my half/full baked humour ;)
However saying that we both know our gov like to do things on the cheap,so it's possible.:)

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 13:23

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1098473)
On the Canadian toonie the design is an image of the Queen with a bear behind.:D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nie_-_back.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ie_-_front.png

I wonder if our's will have her with a bear behind,more chance of it being Dick Turpin :D

Alan Varrechia 19-03-2014 13:28

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It's not due out until 2017, so they might as well call it a 50p as that's all it will be worth by then!!: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Accyexplorer 19-03-2014 13:35

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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 1098485)
It's not due out until 2017, so they might as well call it a 50p as that's all it will be worth by then!!: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

On the opposite side to liz they should put the monopoly boot kicking or stamping on folk :D

Margaret Pilkington 19-03-2014 13:52

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1098483)
I don't Margaret,it was my half/full baked humour ;)

Ah....I see. Maybe I need to tweak(not twerk) my funny bone a bit then.

Less 19-03-2014 17:31

New £1 coin
 
Coin mechs lives, are designed for the life of the machine they are in.
They can be configured according to the Country they are working in.
A coin mech designed for an American made pin table for example, can be configured to take any coins from any Country.

DaveinGermany 19-03-2014 18:43

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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1098467)
Do you remember DinG, pre euro when the old shilling (10p) coin worked in the deutsche mark slots over there? ;) Great for phoning home on the cheap (allegedly)

Still do in some places.

Fi'pences DtP :D Fag machines, phone boxes & any other Germing vending machines that took the old DM. Happy days! The troops would come back from leave with about 20 Quids worth of Fi'pences & flood the place. :)

Phone home or buy up all the smokes from the machines around the camps & down town, then flog 'em to the krautlings for "Proper money" at a discount of course, we weren't totally mercenary, paid for the Beer right enough, but we'd end up getting read the riot act by the GSM & the Monkeys. :o

DtheP47 19-03-2014 21:43

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1098518)
Fi'pences DtP :D :o

Yer right DinG five pence/shilling......

Used a load in the red phone box in Edinburgh House, Berlin reunification year :D


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