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Atarah 19-01-2004 09:11

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Does anyone remember this one? The view is from by the side of Ewbank, looking towards the railways arches. The old Corn Mill can be seen on the Left Hand side.

Tealeaf 19-01-2004 09:37

No traffic, no people......odd! I don't remember the houses on the left.....this piccy must be a coloured postcard 1900's possibly?

Atarah 19-01-2004 10:45

Good guess Tealeaf. This block of old cottages is well before our time. It stretched from the corner of Electricity Street to the old Machpelah graveyard. There is a photo in an old book of Accrington showing just a couple of the cottages left and saying that an unsolved murder took place in one of these cottages in 1904 - a Mrs Susan Westwell was murdered

Tealeaf 19-01-2004 10:48

Unsolved murder? I shall get on the case immeadiatly!

Atarah 19-01-2004 10:54

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The unsolved murder was August 25th 1904

Tealeaf 19-01-2004 10:59

Any idea of the motive? What was the cause of death?

Atarah 19-01-2004 11:24

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Hi, will have to refresh my memory. The cottages were based across from Ellisons Tenement where the fairground used to be. I think Susan W used to make cups of tea from her cottage. The motive was robbery unfortunately. I think they got away with very little cash, but .. they were never caught. Accrington Library have some newspaper cuttings with internal views of the actual sitting room where they attacked her.

Tealeaf 19-01-2004 12:12

Is'nt there a Westwell Street not to far away? Any connection, I wonder?

Atarah 19-01-2004 12:28

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Hi, dont think there is a Westwell Street not far away. You are probably thinking of Westwood Street

Tealeaf 19-01-2004 12:40

Oh dear. I think you're right.........still, back to the original thread. Am I right in assuming this was an old dear who made cups of tea for a few pennies and was murdered for the same? I know mugging old ladies is a common occurance now but it was pretty unique then...even when people stashed their money at home rather than use banks...Anything else you remember about the case?

Atarah 19-01-2004 22:13

The address was 24 Hyndburn Road. Susan Westwell who was a widow and lived on her own. Her house was near to Ewbank works and across from Ellisons Tenement, known as The Accrington Fairground. She made a living by selling herb beer, headache powder and also supplied hot water to the workers at Ewbank and the gas works. Because the workers were used to seeing her up and about quite early in the mornings, when one morning her door was still closed, they became concerned and someone went around to the back of the house. They found her unconscious near the door, her skull having been fractured. The police and Dr Greenhalgh were called, but she soon died.
Susan W was known to keep money in the house amd was known to show this to neighbours.
They belive it could have been two lads about 17/18 years of age, but no one was ever charged.

littlemo 20-01-2004 01:51

I remember seeing an old photo of that with a police man standing outside the door. I don't remember seeing the house but when they where pulled down, didn't they leave 2 standing next to the graveyard? thought they alwaus looked quite creepy! I remember the old mill house, it was always boarded up with a big tree covering most of the outside. Does anyone remember the house at the topof Plantation road? I remember playing up there as a kid, there was a big rope swing in the woods there. I know it was sold a number of years ago, is itb a listed building now?

Atarah 20-01-2004 06:59

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Hi, you could either mean Arden Hall which is no longer there or Owl Hall. The house now referred to as Arden Hall is actually the coach house. There is a group at the moment called Friends of Arden Hall who I believe are trying to get the grounds of the original hall improved. Owl Hall is still there. A long time ago I used to work at Duckworths estate agents in St James Street. I am talking 1972ish. They were involved in the sale of Owl Hall and we, mere office staff, were asked would we like to go up there a couple of times and help by cleaning the silver and helping to "job lot" some of the items. How I wish I had had the sense then to take piccy's

littlemo 20-01-2004 11:59

arden hall, thats the one! well was the one! but its proberbly the coach house I remember

Uncle Mick 01-02-2004 13:45

I used to work at Ewbank in the late 1970`s so it`s very familar. We also used the graveyard as a shortcut from the fairground to the "Rat Back", the alley for Argyle Street and home!

carolef 01-02-2006 23:25

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Originally Posted by Atarah
Good guess Tealeaf. This block of old cottages is well before our time. It stretched from the corner of Electricity Street to the old Machpelah graveyard. There is a photo in an old book of Accrington showing just a couple of the cottages left and saying that an unsolved murder took place in one of these cottages in 1904 - a Mrs Susan Westwell was murdered

any photos re hyndburn road gas works and graveyard

carolef 02-02-2006 00:08

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Originally Posted by Atarah
Does anyone remember this one? The view is from by the side of Ewbank, looking towards the railways arches. The old Corn Mill can be seen on the Left Hand side.

i remember the view my name is carole ball i lived in the gasworks house just further up the road

littlemo 02-02-2006 02:52

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the gasworks house? is that the one that was left standing next to the graveyard? I remember there was quite a few kids lived in that house

carolef 04-02-2006 18:26

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yes i lived there from the age of 1 until 12 only 3 children though the rest were grown up

littlemo 05-02-2006 13:36

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when was that then carol? I always remember a little girl sitting on the steps and at times skipping, maybe it was you?!

carolef 05-02-2006 19:33

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it was between 1964 until 1976 i was the only girl that lived there so it probably was me

Tony Ireland 24-09-2007 09:38

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I have only just stumbled on the image of Hyndburn road. In 1950 just the foundations where there. we played for hours down there before the sub station was built there where of course the property next to the graveyard
thanks
tony

cashman 24-09-2007 10:11

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great old pic,never seen it before, i used to work in that dept of the ewbank,never remember that old green door being open, dont know you carolef but remember yer brother "Ced".

alan7554 24-09-2007 10:35

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i think that the old cotton mill in the background eventually became BROUGHTONS the plumbers merchants, the green door on the left is still there,it used it lead to the old accy transport dept and is now a rear entry for JEWSONS

ossykid 24-09-2007 10:49

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The building just past Ellisons tennemant is the old gas and water works yard where I did my apprenticeship. We used to go accross the road for tea sometimes but I can,t remember the name of the lady who made it, maybe it was your mum Carol, it would be about 1965-70. The gas storage tanks were at the back of your house, right. I also remember an archway with some offices used by the gas board attatched to the houses.

entwisi 24-09-2007 11:12

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Cashy, my pops used to work at Ewbank.he was made redundant in 1978

He used to work in QC

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 15:19

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My Mum worked at Ewbank too but it was a long time ago.

BERNADETTE 24-09-2007 15:32

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My mum worked there as well, she finished when they moved to Burnley.

***Mr D*** 24-09-2007 15:51

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Nice Photo.

I love looking at Accrington How It Was.

I can remember vaigly the grave yard next to the factory.

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 15:55

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I remember that graveyard being sold. Macpelah - means ''God's Acre' I was told, by a baptist, that the baptists used to baptise people in the river down there.

MargaretR 24-09-2007 15:59

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 473790)
I remember that graveyard being sold. Macpelah - means ''God's Acre' I was told, by a baptist, that the baptists used to baptise people in the river down there.

:eek:No wonder infant mortality was high:eek:

WillowTheWhisp 24-09-2007 16:24

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:D Just noticed there are far too many baptists in that last post of mine!

magpie 15-12-2013 21:09

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This murder is not unlike the one on Warner Street....? Sarah Coates

Retlaw 15-12-2013 22:36

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 473793)
:eek:No wonder infant mortality was high:eek:


Just seen this reopened post.
Those Baptist who were on Hyndburn Rd, at what was known as Gods Little Acre, did not baptise children, they only baptised those who requested it, I have a coppy of some of their registers in my computer, incidentally, they moved to Hyndburn Rd (Allom Lane) from Clayton, they then moved to Blackburn Rd, next to the railway arch, then to Cannon St, now they are in Christ Church.


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