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Tealeaf 09-02-2004 12:41

Listed Buildings
 
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Not quite a piccy this one - it's a Lancashire County Council chart of the number of listed buildings in each local authority. Guess who's at the bottom! No surprise really - we seem to pull one down every week..

Atarah 09-02-2004 13:25

Chart
 
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Hi Tealeaf, that chart is sad to see. Lets see, if, between us, we can think of all the buildings that were not given a higher status, and pulled down.

To start ..... New Jerusalem Church (this of course is now the car park for the Swan Pub on Abbey Street!)

But, I have to add, we have kept some marvellous buildings i.e. Market Hall, Town Hall, Bridges Corner

Tealeaf 09-02-2004 13:38

About 150 buildings
 
..The surprising thing is that if you look at the bar chart there appear to be about 150 buildings in Hyndburn which carry listed status. The town hall, the market hall...OK...but where/what are the others? Anybody have any idea?

I remember years ago when the Arndale was built the Black Bull was pulled down over the weekend because someone was applying by court order to have listed status imposed, so the developers came in and pulled it down before that could happen.

Atarah 09-02-2004 13:43

Sitting comfortably? Then I will begin.
 
Hi Tealeaf, here are some of the listed buildings in Accrington (notice I say Accrington, not Hyndburn - will have to search for those)

Grade II listed

St James Church
Pedestial of a sundial in St James' grounds (now moved for safety reasons I believe)
Adam Westwells monument in same churchyard (still there, facing solictors which is higher up than library)
The Library
Mechanics Institute, Willow Street (which is now the Registrars)
Baptist Church, Cannon Street
Con Club, Cannon Street
21 Cannon Street (dont know why, must take a look and see whats so special about it)
Richmond Hill Street Works (formerly Howard and Bulloughs Top Shop) - dont know if this is still applicable, will have to investigate.
St Peters Church, Richmond Street
Higher Antley Hall and Cottage Richmond Street

more to follow .....

janet 09-02-2004 14:24

What about Saint James, church kirk i know part of the church is a few hundred years old?

Owd Bert 09-02-2004 14:36

Listed Buildings
 
Does anyone know if the Railway Viaduct is Listed ?

Tealeaf 09-02-2004 14:54

Hi Janet,

Re: Church Kirk.........the tower at Church Kirk is the oldest structure in Hyndburn, and I think the Church itself is Grade ll* listed. The Stag at Church is the oldest pub, first mentioned in records in 1590, but I don't think that is listed. The derelict warehouse prior to the Commercial pub is also listed, but because the owner cannot be traced then the council are unable to deliver an enforcement order to get the place seen to.

Bert,

If the railway viaduct is not listed, then it should be - at least grade II. Did you know that Accrington Railway Station was one of only 6 of its kind in the country? Did'nt do it any good, mind; and I can't see the powers that be listing the bus shelter in it's place

Atarah 09-02-2004 22:40

Listed buildings. and yes, the Viaduct is listed.
 
Hi, more listed buildings in Accrington are:-

Friar Hill Farmhouse (approached from Moorgate, Bedlam)
The building once used as Manchester and Liverpool Bank, on Eagle Street, faces the station, not sure what its use now is)
Crawshaws Hall, Blackburn Road (this was formerly a Baptist Church) - I dont know if the listed building status still applies, cos I know for a fact the building was pulled down and rebuilt. Its the building along Blackburn Road, just under the arches, and before you get to that set of lights at the bottom of Paxton Street)
Railway Viaduct
St. Andrews Church, Swiss Street
Dyke Nook Lodge, Whalley Road, also the gate piers and perimeter walls.
St John the Evangelist, Addison Street
Slatepits Farmhouse (approach from Plantation Mill or Miry Lane, Huncoat)
*Spire Farmhouse, Barn and Shippon, Sandy Lane
High Riley Cottages (did you know that Owd Bert?)
Higher Hey Farmhouse and Cottages (Approach from A56 by-pass)
St John's Church, Baxenden
Haworth Art Gallery, Manchester Road
Toll Bar House, Manchester Road (anyone not know where this is?)
War Memorial, Oak Hill Park

Grade I are defined as buildings of such great architectural or historical interest that they cannot be demolished apart from the most exceptional circumstances.
Grade II are those of sufficient architectural or historical interest that they cannot be demolished without very special reason
Grade II* are superior examples in that grade.

Darby 10-02-2004 06:51

What about the Railway bridge on Coach Road, it was renovated a few years ago.

Foxhill Bank House (I can get first hand information about that one), as I stay there when I'm over.

Ossy Tech school?

War Memorial on Rhyddings Street?

Library up Gobbin Land?

Ossy Town Hall?

The little building in Rhyddings Park?

I'm sure Tealeaf was in the Stag when it first opened, although I didn't get in until 16:00!!

Nice thread Atarah, I'll do a bit of diggin myself.

Caz 10-02-2004 07:51

The Victorian Arcade

Atarah 10-02-2004 09:56

The Arcade
 
Yep, Cazzer, the Arcade is also listed.

Atarah 10-02-2004 11:18

More Accrington listed buildings
 
Here's the final ones that I am aware of (for Accrington)

Mansion House, Oak Hill Park (this was also rebuilt, stone by stone, so, are they still classed as listed when they have been rebuilt? I dont know the answer to this)
Christ Church School, Rough Lee Road (This is now flats)
Fire Station on Manchester Road. Of course this is empty now, the new station being along Hyndburn Road. Wonder what they will do with the building. Had heard the Dog Handler's section of the Police were after it, and the Srmed Squad department.
Court and Police Station, Manchester Road and Spring Gardens
Former Red Lion Hotel, on Abbey Street. Known for many years as PV Tubes, not sure what it is now.
Warner's Arms Hotel block, Warner Street
The Arcade, Warner Street - Church Street
Market Hall, Blackburn Road
Town Hall, Blackburn Road

and thats all I know of at the moment

Tealeaf 11-02-2004 14:39

That's 36...
 
..by my counting, so it's probably any number between 33 & 39, bar 36.
OK - Thats just in Accy...........The actual number is 110 according to the Council/LCC - so where's the rest?

I've tried to find out on the web, but just can't find any details...any tips, Atarah?

Mick 11-02-2004 15:07

where is this arch
 
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do you know where this is then ??

mez 11-02-2004 15:38

china st nr villa dentists ?
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Tealeaf 11-02-2004 15:45

Agreed..
 
...That's the Antley Chapel to be seen through the arch

K.S.H 11-02-2004 15:45

Yep, China St, thats the one I was talking about in Owd Berts post about the house's going over the alley's

K.S.H 11-02-2004 15:47

I only know of 1 more and thats in Commercial St Ossy, apart from the 1 in springhill that was shown in Owd Berts post

Tealeaf 11-02-2004 15:51

There's a few up Ozzy..
 
..but I can't remember the name of each street.....first one's south shore street, I think...

Tealeaf 11-02-2004 15:55

How do we spell...
 
Ozzy or is it Ossy?

Atarah 11-02-2004 22:36

Ossy
 
Hi Tealeaf, its Ossy I believe. I have been to Blackpool today, not been in long, so...

Grade II listed in Ossy

Canal Warehouse, Enfield Wharf, Blackburn Road
Stable Block, East side of canal opposite Canal Warehouses
Fernery in garden of Henfield House, Blackburn Road (I cant believe I have just typed that!!!!!)
Dunkenhalgh Hotel Blackburn Road
Former Stable Block Dunkenhalgh Hotel
Holt Mill House (formerly Petre Arms Inn, Blackburn Road)
Holt Mill Cottages (2), Blackburn Road
Church of All Saints Church Street
All Saints Vicarage, Church Street
War Memorial, Mercer Park
Dunkenhalgh Cottage (Formerly Mercer Museum, Mercer Park) - This sounds very odd to me! I dont know Clayton very well, I must admit, but, I have never before heard the old museum referred to as Dunk. Cottage)
Sparth Manor, Sparth Road
Sparth House, Whalley Road
Bothy, Clayton Hall Farm (Bothy! What on earth is a bothy!)
Cruck Barn, Clayton Hall Farm, Clayton Hall Drive, off Whalley Road
Ice House, belonging to the demolished Clayton Hall (believe this was restored when Clayton Hall was rebuilt for a local businessman)

So ... there you go. Thats all I know of in Clayton

janet 12-02-2004 10:57

I have been under that arch many a time, the first job i had was there antley villa, dentist. MR BURY back in 1968.

Tealeaf 12-02-2004 13:22

A Bothy...
 
.......is a farmers/shepards shelter...they're the little one room stone buildings you see out in hill/sheep country. The word is quite common and has it's origins in Scotland, I think.

So, above: that's Clayton's list; what about Church?

Atarah 13-02-2004 09:44

Grade II listed in Church
 
Hi Tealeaf, your wish is my command :)

Church Listed buildings

Elmfield Hall, Gatty Park, Hyndburn Road
War Memorial in Gatty park
Church of St james, Church Kirk
Church Kirk Canal Bridge, No. 112 St James Road
Canal Bridge, No. 11D Bridge Street
Canal Warehouse, Nos 49, 51 and 53 Blackburn Rd

(I'm sure I have already posted these, but ...cant find where!!! :confused: )

Sara 14-02-2004 14:05

A good few years back i had a conversation with the then manager of Yorkshire Bank, Accrington about how difficult it was to get a pram up the steps. His reply was because it is a listed building there is not a lot that could be done.

jada 14-03-2004 17:17

Re: Listed Buildings
 
can any one help me I am researching lost houses and have come across a house called Oak Hill Park Mansion. I don't know the area or any thing about the building. I would like to know if it is still standing or has it been demolished?

Atarah 14-03-2004 18:48

Oak Hill Park Mansion
 
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OAK HILL MANSION, A GRADE II , MEDIUM SIZED GEORGIAN STONEBUILT HOUSE WITH VICTORIAN EXTENSION.

Hi, yep, its still here, but .. its not as it was!
Oak Hill Park Mansion was the home of the Hargreaves family of Accrington and date(d) back to themiddle of the 18th century and belonged to the Woodward family. In 1815 the land was leased andn purchased by Thomas Hargreaves, head of the Broad Oak Print works. The original mansion was then built. Thomas died in 1822, and the house passed to his youngest son, Jonathan, who enlarged it by the addition of a further wing. He left the area in the late 1850's and afterwards the house was let to various tenants. A well known local poet, Mathilda Harris wrote a poem entitled "Reverie in Oak Hill Grounds" which speaks of neglect and decay of the "once noble and beautiful home". In 1889 the estate belonged to Jonathan's son - Reginald Gervis Hargreaves, who married Alice Liddell - the model for Lewis Carroll's "Alice in Wonderland". The council then purchased the house and grounds and in May 1893 it was opened as a public park and museum. In 1932/3 the museum received their most important gift ever, the collection of Tiffany glass through a local lad, Joseph Briggs, ex Accringtonian. During WWII the museum was closed to the public and this was the beginning of the end for the museum.
During the late 50's the house was closed to the public, although I believe an Ice=Cream parlour operatated in a downstairs room for some time. In 1990 the rundown house was put up for auction and in 1992 work began to transform the house to provide luxury
apartments for 12 elderly people, a housekeepers flat and a car park. The work was carried out by the Abbeyfield Hyndburn Society. So, although the house "appears" to be the old town museum, it has in fact been pulled down, stone by stone, numbered, and all put back together again. "Everything is not always whats it seems".

Owd Bert 15-03-2004 14:21

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Must take you to task Atarah -- in your excellent account and history of Oak Hill Mansion you state, without reservation, " --- the Museum received their most important gift ever --- " that is purely a personal opinion. I would have opted for the marvellous collection of Butterflies.

Atarah 16-03-2004 22:46

Re: Listed Buildings
 
With respect, the butterflies "have flown away" but the Tiffany glass still remains!

Owd Bert 17-03-2004 06:46

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Very true and what a shame that the Butterflies have gone and bits of coloured glass are still gazed at with reverence. Ah well it takes all sorts as they say..(anyone know who "they" are ?) Pre-war days (ww2) my Dad took me two or three times a year to the Museum and it made a change from playing with my Gameboy Mark 0.

Tealeaf 17-03-2004 12:25

Re: Listed Buildings
 
I thought you would have been on the Mark III by now, Bert.

WillowTheWhisp 20-06-2004 16:01

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Aren't Higher Antley Hall and Cottage on Park Crescent? (near Bullough Park)

Acrylic-bob 20-06-2004 18:45

Re: Listed Buildings
 
According to my dad, the collection of butterflys and insects from Oak Hill Mansion were given (or sold?) to Blackburn. Can anyone comfirm this? I know that when I was a boy (1960's) I have seen such a collection in Blackburn Museum and Art Gallery.

Atarah 20-06-2004 23:02

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Hi, thats what I have also been told. Lots of the items in the old museum were in a bad state, but things like the butterflies wings and insects etc., seemed to go to either museums or universities. Many of the items were actually taken back by the people who had donated in the first place.

andystanley 13-08-2004 15:43

Re: Listed Buildings
 
This one, not in Accrington, but close by.
Listed 2*, and on English Heritage's "Buildings at Risk" register.
Apparently owned by the Dunkenhalgh estate?

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/b...s/07450001.jpg

Parkers Farmhouse, Cow Hill Lane, Hyndburn
Name:http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/b...ges/spacer.gifParkers Farmhouse Street: Cow Hill Lane Parish: Rishton District / London Borough: Hyndburn Unitary Authority: N/A National Park: N/A County: Lancashire Region: North West Building Grade: II* Scheduled Ancient Monuments: N Conservation Area: N Registered Park / Garden Grade: Not registered World Heritage Site: NoCondition: Poor Occupancy: Vacant Priority Category: C New Entry: No Previous Priority Category: C Ownership Type: Private Contact: Peter de Figueiredo, 0161 242 1431 Summary: Farmhouse c1600. End bay used for farm storage, but remainder disused. In need of masonry repairs, roof and rainwater disposal maintenance. Despite discussions with the local authority there is no progress on temporary or full refurbishment, or on an appropriate use.

Acrylic-bob 13-08-2004 21:54

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Cooo! If I had the money, me and the dog would be in our element there.

Atarah 13-08-2004 22:13

Cowhill
 
Brilliant photo and yet .. I always thought this was Cowhill Farm, Rishton?

This was supposedly the home of the Hindle family, who were a numerous race in Rishton and Great Harwood as early as the 16th century.

Atarah 13-08-2004 22:22

Cowhill Farm
 
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Here is a 1928 photo showing the building. Nothing much has changed, eh?

WillowTheWhisp 13-08-2004 23:17

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Just a lot more delapidated which is a shame.

andystanley 14-08-2004 12:02

Re: Listed Buildings
 
True, it is a shame.
I am told that the owners will not sell it.
But they will not restore it either.

Atarah 14-08-2004 14:48

Listed Buildings
 
Wonder how you get to it? Anyone know? I would love to have a nosey?

andystanley 14-08-2004 18:35

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Atarah,

On main road thru rishton, before whitebirk roundabout, you turn left, onto a track which takes you across a bridge over the m65, then there is a farmhouse (white). It is next to it. Well worth a look.

garinda 04-07-2010 23:26

Re: Listed Buildings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Owd Bert (Post 48806)
Must take you to task Atarah -- in your excellent account and history of Oak Hill Mansion you state, without reservation, " --- the Museum received their most important gift ever --- " that is purely a personal opinion. I would have opted for the marvellous collection of Butterflies.

I did start a thread, about the sad ending of some of the exhibits from the old museum.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tip-51518.html


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