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Less 11-09-2004 14:09

Do Whitewells still do ice-cream?
 
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This old sign made me wonder if they still exist.

WillowTheWhisp 11-09-2004 14:32

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Hmm I remember something round the back of Clayton Con. Was that Whitewell daries? Do we have any local daries now or have they all bitten the dust? There was one on Park Street on the site where Netto and a couple of empty shops and a pound shop now reside, and the one at West End Ossy which I believe is now a bus depot?

lettie 11-09-2004 21:19

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Daisy Dairy at Ossy West End is now the housing estate Aspden Fold. I think there's some sort of vehicle depot round the back. When you drive past you sometimes see a sign for car valeting.

WillowTheWhisp 11-09-2004 22:04

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I thought the houses were on land next to the old dairy. I didn't realise it had covered all that area. I just recalled I'd seen buses going up that road where the dairy wagons used to go.

lettie 11-09-2004 22:33

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The housing estate is built on what used to be the front of Daisy Dairy. One of my mates lived across the road when I was a teenager. We used to play on a rope swing in the field behind Daisy Dairy.........and managed to get in a lot of bother with her parents because we always came back to her house so filthy... Ooops!!!

Less 12-09-2004 21:49

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Would any-one be interested in answering the original question, namely Do Whitewells still do ice-cream?

WillowTheWhisp 12-09-2004 22:03

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I don't know. I'm not even sure they still exist.

JEFF 13-09-2004 10:12

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I am sure that Whitewell Dairies were on Park Street, Accrington at the bottom of Oswald Street, they did milk, ice cream, etc. They were taken over by Associated Dairies (Asda). They expanded and bought the mill on Park Street, (Park Shed) where Netto, Poundstretcher, etc. are now.

Ifty 13-09-2004 11:19

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I think the answer your looking for is 'no'

Alan Gilmartin 14-09-2004 09:11

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The buildings behind Clayton Con, was Pooles pop works. They made all kinds of drinks including ginger beer in the old stone flagons, ( made good hot water bottles, ). I think the family lived in Sparth House. I remember the son Colin Poole, he was a bit of a character. I think he had a club foot. I can remember buying ice cream at the shop-cafe, at Cock Bridge, I think that was Whitewells. Can't recall where it was made.

JohnW 14-09-2004 11:07

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Didn't Whitewell Daries have a location on the right hand side (going uphill) near the bottom of Stanley Street?

JEFF 14-09-2004 12:32

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That is the area I am trying to describe to you, Park Street, Oswald Street, Stanley Street. They were then taken over by Associated Dairies.

WillowTheWhisp 14-09-2004 15:55

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I can still remember a sign about ice cream at the back of Clayton Con and hearing the whirry wuzzing of refridgeration type equipment. Maybe they just sold the stuff.

Alan Gilmartin 16-09-2004 23:32

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I think you may be right WTW, on thinking back I seem to remember another buisness next to Pooles, with refridgeration. It could have been a depot for Whitewells. Did you live in Clayton?. Also Dr lovelace's soap works was across the road from the Con club, I remember the big iron gates. I suppose thats all gone now. The two pubs nearby were the Albion and the Commercial.

WillowTheWhisp 16-09-2004 23:35

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No I never lived there but I used to work there. Don't remember any soap factory. Perhaps it had already gone, but the pubs were still there.

JEFF 17-09-2004 12:20

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Whitewell Dairies Limited
Stanley Street
Accrington
Telephone Accrington 5225
The Pasturised Milk Specialists

DELICIOUS ICE CREAM FOR LARGE OR SMALL PARTIES
SHOPS SUPPLIED

Branches
INFANT STREET, PARK STREET ACCRINGTON
BLACKBURN ROAD, HASLINGDEN.

Taken from an advert from 1956

pendy 17-09-2004 12:48

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It WAS delicious ice cream, too, far better than Walls or Lyons. If anybody finds any, please let me know - you've started my mouth watering.

WillowTheWhisp 17-09-2004 12:53

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If that ad was 1956 I wonder if they had other branches by the 1970s (when I was working in Clayton) or I wonder if it was a different firm?

I'd love to find a later ad now.

JEFF 17-09-2004 14:42

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I think they had closed down by the 70's, taken over by Associated Dairies and just doing milk.

WillowTheWhisp 17-09-2004 15:13

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Curioser and curioser because it was certainly no earlier than the 70s when I recall this refridgerated something or other behind Clayton Con.

K.S.H 17-09-2004 15:43

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well if they dont exist now, who makes the best ice cream?
My vote goes to Holdens at Edgeworth, anyone been? a local family business and the shop is always full anytime of year or weather

mez 17-09-2004 16:31

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i was there 2 weeks ago my daughter rang me & asked me to go for a treat i love it its gorgeous

WillowTheWhisp 17-09-2004 16:37

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Can't remember the name but the shop is on a corner in Chatburn, just where you turn off to go to Downham. Mind you I haven't been there in ages so for all I know they could have closed down too.

Atarah 20-09-2004 12:50

Collinson Poole/Whitewells and Bonds of Elswick
 
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Once the name Collinson Poole was one of the main mineral water manufacturers in Clayton Le Moors. In 1962 Whitewells moved into the building used by this firm on Grimshaw St. In 1986 Whitewells went into liquidation, but hopes of a takeover came to nothing. The premises and contents were auctioned April 1986.


As for the best of the moment, I like Bonds of Elswick. This photo was only taken yesterday at Lytham

WillowTheWhisp 20-09-2004 13:10

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:) Thanks Atarah. Grimshaw Street, as I now remember, is the name of the street up the side of Clayton Con and as Whitewell occupied those premises (entered on Grimshaw St and located directly behind the Con) between 1962 and 1986 that fits in with my memory of them being there in the 70s. The old brain cells obviously aren't quite so frazzled as I was beginning to think they were!

Accylad 07-10-2004 10:53

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The associated daries were on park street , Before it was the daires i think it was park mill , cos we lived opposite the daires on cedar st, we used to have a corner shop there in the early 70's and my gran lived on park st and worked in the mill.

Accylad 07-10-2004 10:56

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What happend to Birtwistles ice cream used to round on horse drawn cart?

WillowTheWhisp 07-10-2004 13:16

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Albert ("Hi scream he-yar")has long since passed away. The building which used to be his farm has now been converted into a row of houses bearing the name "Piper's Row" which is actually the name of an old Huncoat row of houses which no longer exists. I'm sure someone who knows more about history (Atarah?) would be able to fill us in on that.

Atarah 08-10-2004 06:49

Huncoat
 
Hi, no knowledge of Huncoat, sorry, but the new Huncoat book out, by John Goddard, may have the information in it.

Wynonie Harris 08-10-2004 09:44

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Surely, it was Birtwell's ice cream that was made in Huncoat, wasn't it? I went to school with the son, Ian.

WillowTheWhisp 08-10-2004 23:31

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Yes it was. I can see that my post doesn't make that clear. The farmhouse (the icecream was made on the premises) was in Lowergate Rd (or Highergate Rd - I'm never sure where it changes names) in Huncoat and when it was converted to a row of houses they used a name which had previously been an old Huncoat name but presumably had been demolished long before.

The only reason I know that there used to be a previous Piper's Row is that an ancestor of mine lived there.

Atarah 09-10-2004 18:14

Birtwells ice-cream
 
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Have this photo, dont know where I acquired it from .......

WillowTheWhisp 09-10-2004 21:47

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Wow! Modernised version! I don't remember seeing that. I do remember the old horse drawn cart.

Acrylic-bob 10-10-2004 07:33

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I can just about remember the shop in Infant Street, it is a chip shop now, but the memory is very vague, I must have been very little.

Accy-mad 27-11-2004 09:18

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Colin Poole was a nice lad. He lived near to us on Whalley Rd in Clayton around 1953/4 and his family had a wind-up gramophone in the attic and we used to go up there and play old records. I can't remember a thing about the Pop manufacturing but thought his father ran the garage on the left hand side going up the steep hill to the canal bridge (about opposite the entrance to Pickup St). They moved to Whalley Road Accrington, again on the left hand side between the Crown bus stop and Oakleigh. I remember the Whitewell Ice cream shop in Infant St., you could buy an ice-cream cornet for one penny. The ice-cream was the best in the world and nothing has ever matched it since. Wasn't the shop next door to Mr Marriott's (have I got the right name) who made meat and fish pastes. The glass-covered counter was full of large oval shaped dishes with the hugest variety of pastes available, again no pate or paste has ever tasted as good since.

bobthedj 27-11-2004 10:58

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I remember Whitwells being behind the clayton con because we used to get dry ice from there and throw it in the cannal. we had 2 shops on the side of the bridge a second hand shop and a shoe shop this would be around 1969. The best ice cream ever that Has been mentiond was Birtwistles it was cheaper than all the others and better it was made from goats milk, as someone has already said he used to yell ice cream hear but he did'nt have chimes like the others he used to blow a whistle.

kevj 08-02-2009 19:44

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 82995)
This old sign made me wonder if they still exist.

sorry,this is 2009, but i'm new to computers,just read your thing on Accy web.Whitewell Dairies is no longer in existance,the building still stands,it's at the back of the con club.I worked there as a kid in the 70s,no HASW then,i was only 14.The place now sells catering equipment.If it's any use,Dr Lovelace's soap was accross the road,I know why because my dad bought the place.Hope this helps.
yours,
K Joinson.

Retlaw 08-02-2009 20:30

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Whitewells Dairies went years ago. If I'm not mistaken
Garth Dawson took over the shop when the dairies on Park St closed down.

Back of the Con Club where, every town had a Con Club, were are talking Accrington's Whitewell Dairies.

Just to add to the mistery of vanishing Ice Cream makers, who remembers Clemson, sold ice cream from a milk float round Woodnook in the 1930's

Retlaw.

Caz 08-02-2009 20:37

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Think he means Clayton. Was whitewells ice cream, then Gazelle office furniture. Now it's a firm that supplies catering equipment.

katex 08-02-2009 22:21

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 677463)

Back of the Con Club where, every town had a Con Club, were are talking Accrington's Whitewell Dairies.



Retlaw.

Think he may mean Clayton Retlaw deducing that Dr. Lovelace's factory was down Clayton and Joinson is a Clayton Family. Could be wrong as usual though ... :D

See stupid me .. just seen Caz's post.. LOL

cuz 09-02-2009 15:27

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whitewells was bought out when they was sold to associated daries and was set up again in grimshaw street clayton le moors behind con club i worked there in 70s after school and school holidays for 50pence an hour it was owned by a guy called geoff newlove and dennis brown who bought geoff out and carried on running it himself till early 80s then it closed down and he set it up again somewere at broadoak until is death

red rose 09-02-2009 16:19

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Hi there - are you kevin Joinson as in you have a sister called Elaine (we were in Clayton Brownies together!) and you were in my class at Chris´s? If so, ...I was then known as Ann Jackson. I am still big mates with David Barrett and now living in Portugal. ....

Taggy 09-02-2009 17:10

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 88288)
Surely, it was Birtwell's ice cream that was made in Huncoat, wasn't it? I went to school with the son, Ian.

Only just seen this thread, yes Birtwells Ice Cream...by far and away the best ive ever tasted, much better than Whitewells IMO. A Lady also used to sell it from a freezer in her front room, on Sultan Street or Lodge Street.

Hudsons in Chatburn is i think about the best around here now, but its very expensive. Bonds Ice Cream at Elswick lovely too!

Best Regards - Taggy

K.S.H 09-02-2009 19:25

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 677715)

Hudsons in Chatburn is i think about the best around here now, but its very expensive. Bonds Ice Cream at Elswick lovely too!

Best Regards - Taggy

Nah, Holdens at Edgeworth :D

cuz 09-02-2009 19:53

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no my name is mick curry and i went to holy family my nickname was cuz worked at whitewells from about 1975 till i left school in 1978 then sometimes worked at weekends for dennis just to earn some extra cash

Alan Gilmartin 10-02-2009 06:57

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Was there a colum in the Observer in the 60s headed as Join Joinson. Also I new a guy who lived by the canal bridge his name was Fritz and his mum ran a tobaconsts, across from the Con. 1960s.

red rose 10-02-2009 11:50

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Originally Posted by kevj (Post 677436)
sorry,this is 2009, but i'm new to computers,just read your thing on Accy web.Whitewell Dairies is no longer in existance,the building still stands,it's at the back of the con club.I worked there as a kid in the 70s,no HASW then,i was only 14.The place now sells catering equipment.If it's any use,Dr Lovelace's soap was accross the road,I know why because my dad bought the place.Hope this helps.
yours,
K Joinson.

I am trying to see if you are Kevin Joinson who went to St Christopher´s 71-76. If so, we were in the same class (Ann Jackson). You have a sister called Elaine right?

Retlaw 13-02-2009 18:46

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Just rembered another Ice Cream maker.

Donaldson's, used to go paddling at little Blackpool, then go up the path to Donaldson's for ice cream.

Retlaw.

steeljack 13-02-2009 20:22

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not sure how many Accy web users are familiar with the walk over the 'Nab' from Gt Harwood to Whalley but there used to be (late 50s/early 60s) a house/cafe just before you dopped down into Whalley which served home made ice-cream, stuff was delicious , bright yellow coloured stuff .

katex 14-02-2009 11:52

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 679615)
not sure how many Accy web users are familiar with the walk over the 'Nab' from Gt Harwood to Whalley but there used to be (late 50s/early 60s) a house/cafe just before you dopped down into Whalley which served home made ice-cream, stuff was delicious , bright yellow coloured stuff .

Eeew yes, I remember that one Steeljack sorta' row of cottages if I remember. Made the view of Whalley as you were going down the hill more pleasurable. Can you still do this walk I wonder ? Used to seem miles when I was little; bet not that far really.

red rose 14-02-2009 13:55

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 679823)
Eeew yes, I remember that one Steeljack sorta' row of cottages if I remember. Made the view of Whalley as you were going down the hill more pleasurable. Can you still do this walk I wonder ? Used to seem miles when I was little; bet not that far really.

Brilliant walk....used to go over the nab lots at the weekend. Park at the Gamecock Inn and through the gate down from the pub (before the bridge over the Ribble) and then up the hill - where you could either split and go through Bowley or onto the top of the nab and down into Whalley. Had the neighbours dog with me most times - a golden lab, and she just loved going in the river and the streams around. Used to stink the car out coming home (wet dog not a good combo!). Then poor thing used to get hosed-down when we got back to the house in COLD WATER in the WINTER TOO!!

Alan Gilmartin 16-02-2009 05:30

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I think we should be on the nostalgia page really, but we used to go over the nab regular, with aunts & uncles on Sunday evenings in the summer, it was great, when we got to Whalley, all the adults would pile into the Dog Inn, for a well earned drink and us kids would get ice creams from a shop further up where the bus from Accrington drops off, Im talking 50 yrs ago. Is that shop still there.

Siddie 30-04-2009 10:32

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Originally Posted by JohnW (Post 83560)
Didn't Whitewell Daries have a location on the right hand side (going uphill) near the bottom of Stanley Street?

They sure did and as a kid I used to stand and watch the milk bottle going round being cleaned
I dont suppose anyone has a photo of the place around the 50's/60's please

kevj 11-02-2010 22:33

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Hi Red Rose ( Ann),yes I am Elaines' brother.I was pals with Dave Barrett at school and Nicholas Lord.Sorry about the delay in replying (1 year) I'm crap about looking at things on line.
I look forward to your reply.

Yours sincerely,
Kevin Joinson.


P.S would Mr Green approve.

AngleIron 12-02-2010 00:38

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 679577)
Just rembered another Ice Cream maker.

Donaldson's, used to go paddling at little Blackpool, then go up the path to Donaldson's for ice cream.

Retlaw.

According to my dad the best ice cream by far in Accrington, was "Holgate's"....Richard Holgate used to sell his ice cream from a horse and cart. The horse was stabled just off blackburn road in Accrington at the "labour club" which was was somwhere near the miners club near the old grammar school..I used to play there when I was a kid and seem to remember the labour club. The ice cream was made at home ...No 40 Frederick St, Accrington and production was halted due to the second world war. If anyone would like any more information on this I can put you in touch with my father

MargaretR 12-02-2010 10:02

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Swales ice cream Clitheroe.
I was briefly aquainted with Ernie Swales who showed me the factory.
Our brief friendship wasn't long enough for me to sample the goods;)

Tickler 16-02-2010 13:40

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the best ice cream aroung barr none was Birtwells in huncoat!!!

Taggy 16-02-2010 13:47

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Originally Posted by Tickler (Post 788253)
the best ice cream aroung barr none was Birtwells in huncoat!!!

I second that!!

Best Regards - Taggy

Bernard Dawson 16-02-2010 14:38

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 788254)
I second that!!

Best Regards - Taggy


I'd third that.

katex 16-02-2010 16:47

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 788264)
I'd third that.

I'll fourth it ... LOL.

He used to come down our street didn't he Bernard ?

Bernard Dawson 16-02-2010 18:40

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 788325)
I'll fourth it ... LOL.

He used to come down our street didn't he Bernard ?

He did Kate, I can still picture him now coming down the street.

steeljack 16-02-2010 20:20

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Think there was an ice cream chap from Rishton called Tommy Taylor who covered the Rishton, Arrod and Clayton areas.

cashman 16-02-2010 21:30

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 788325)
I'll fourth it ... LOL.

heres a 5th lol, his hoss was ok as well.:D

Wynonie Harris 16-02-2010 21:44

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Went to school with his son, Ian. Some Italian ice cream company offered him money for his recipe, but he wouldn't sell.

katex 17-02-2010 00:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 788533)
heres a 5th lol, his hoss was ok as well.:D

As they say "No answer to that one" ..:D

Alan Gilmartin 19-02-2010 05:42

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Tha marnt put cart afor thoss Kate, Cashy loves his hoss.

Alan Gilmartin 19-02-2010 05:46

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Pretty sure Tommy Taylor lived in Clayton on Whalley rd next to the old Empress Cinima, Steely I think he made his own Ice Cream. But it was a hellava long time ago.

steeljack 19-02-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 789195)
Pretty sure Tommy Taylor lived in Clayton on Whalley rd next to the old Empress Cinima, Steely I think he made his own Ice Cream. But it was a hellava long time ago.

Your probably right , new he was an 'outsider' , you know what a suspicious and clanish lot Arroders are , not quite as interbred as that lot fro Rishton but close :D

hellava long time ago...... come on its only 50 odd years ;)

Lost in Cornwall 20-02-2010 10:05

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Was there a chap called Tripp who used to take ice cream round Clayton, probably early 1960's. Had a shop somewhere opposite Clayton Con Club?

Alan Gilmartin 21-02-2010 16:18

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that rings a bell I'll ask my dad. There was a shop next door to the Albion that sold lovely creamy icecream.

Lost in Cornwall 27-02-2010 08:12

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I think he used to push it round in a hand cart and blow a whistle to let people know he was there.

Retlaw 24-12-2013 21:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 83539)
The buildings behind Clayton Con, was Pooles pop works. They made all kinds of drinks including ginger beer in the old stone flagons, ( made good hot water bottles, ). I think the family lived in Sparth House. I remember the son Colin Poole, he was a bit of a character. I think he had a club foot. I can remember buying ice cream at the shop-cafe, at Cock Bridge, I think that was Whitewells. Can't recall where it was made.

I know this is an old thread but it came up in a search for Pooles Mineral Water, and Dobbo might be interested.
Just found the service records for an Alfred Poole, served in the A.S.C.M.T. Occupation Mineral Water manufacturer, Tremellen St, Accrington, eldest son Collinson Poole born 1903.


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