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Gayle 12-12-2005 16:04

Beware - Ebay scam
 
Following on from our scam thread last week I received this email today from Ebay. As you can see it looks completely genuine and preys on gullible people who will fear that their account has been accessed. The truth is that if you click on the link and key in your account details you are walking straight into the crook's hands. Be careful - it might look genuine but like we've said before - never, never, never follow a link that asks you to key in your account details.


***Urgent Safeharbor Department Notice*** eBay Fraud Mediation Request
Date: Sun, 06 November 2005

You have recieved this email because you or someone had used your account to make fake bids at eBay. For security purposes, we are required to open an investigation into this matter.
THE FRAUD ALERT ID CODE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE WILL BE ATTACHED IN OUR FRAUD MEDIATION REQUEST FORM, IN ORDER TO VERIFY YOUR EBAY ACCOUNT REGISTRATION INFORMATIONS.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fraud Alert ID CODE: 00937614
(Please save this Fraud Alert ID Code for your reference.)

To help speed up this process, please access the following form to complete the verification of your eBay account registration informations:

Please Note:
If we do not receive the appropriate eBay account verification within 48 hours, then we will assume this eBay account is fraudulent and will be suspended.
The purpose of this verification is to ensure that your eBay account has not been fraudulently used and to combat the fraud from our community.
We appreciate your support and understanding, as we work together to keep eBay a safe place to trade.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.

Regards, Safeharbor Department (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc.


Please do not reply to this e-mail as this is only a notification. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered.


Copyright © 2005 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125.


WillowTheWhisp 12-12-2005 16:12

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There seem to be a lot of crooks using eBay at the moment don't there Gayle?

Can I just mention to avoid any auctions on there where they ask you to pay by Western Union.

Gayle 12-12-2005 16:12

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Actually, it's even cleverer than what I first thought. I tried to forward it to Ebay to their fake email centre but to be able to do that I would have had to download the images. Of course, downloading the images would have given the senders more info about my email account. Very clever and very, very dodgy. So, what I did was a screen print - put that in an email and sent that to the ebay fake email dept.

WillowTheWhisp 12-12-2005 16:22

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Grrr :mad: They're getting cleverer aren't they?

Gayle 12-12-2005 16:31

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Even better - I've just received an email from ebay saying that they could not accept my complaint because it was not a 'forwarded message' and my idea of using screen print and attaching it to my complaint email meant that ebay wouldn't receive the complaint.

So brilliant
1. Clever scam letter might get some gullible people falling for it
2. Trying to complain means you have to download images which would give the scammers more information
3. Trying to circumnavigate the download images by using other methods means it won't be received by ebay and therefore, it's impossible to complain


Very clever!

WillowTheWhisp 12-12-2005 17:40

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Not very clever of eBay though is it? I presume the reply you got was a standard one churned out by some automatic wotsit.

entwisi 13-12-2005 08:32

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Gayle, There is no reason why you can't forward an email without downloading the images. The email they sent you is just HTML. it contains only links to their images. You are perectly correct in not downloading teh images as they use a unique ID in the links that tells them which email address is 'calling home' they then know that it is a valid used address and they sell it on to all and sundry.


The best way to stop all this is as I mentioned in the last post about scam emails is to only ever view(AND SEND!!!!) email in plain text. You can force your email client to do this in the tools, options facility.

Gayle 13-12-2005 09:02

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If I try to forward the email it bars me from doing it without downloading the images. There must be some sort of clever coding in the email that does that. I haven't pasted the entire email.

entwisi 13-12-2005 10:27

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Clicking to text only will disable any javascript. One other alternative is to right click the email in your inbox, select properties, Then teh details tab, then message source. Copy this text into an email and send it to me entwisiATthe-entwistlesDOTcoDOTuk. I'll rip it apart for you

park381 15-12-2005 16:39

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Thanks for the info gayle, the more of us that are aware of these scams the better.

Mik Dickinson 19-12-2005 08:26

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Actually reading this i got one here in Germany.Problem being it was all in English so i knew automatically that summat was wrong.Matr of mine has just had a visit from thr police over here.He bought a machine for sucking the damp air out of his cellar as he has just bought a house over here and it turns out that its stolen.The guy selling them on e bay over here was staeling them from his employer

Neil 19-12-2005 09:07

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Gayle I think it would be a good idea if you edited your original post and removed the live link to the scamers email address. As you hover your mouse over "http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay &fraud alert id code=00937614" which looks like a genuine address it shows the scammers email address as "http://******.com/ws/aw-cgi/SignIn.html". I added to "*" so no-one will follow the link to what will probably look like a genuine ebay page.

Gayle 19-12-2005 12:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Gayle I think it would be a good idea if you edited your original post and removed the live link to the scamers email address. As you hover your mouse over "http://scgi.ebay.com/verify_id=ebay &fraud alert id code=00937614" which looks like a genuine address it shows the scammers email address as "http://******.com/ws/aw-cgi/SignIn.html". I added to "*" so no-one will follow the link to what will probably look like a genuine ebay page.


Fair point - so I've deleted it altogether.

Andromeda 28-03-2006 10:25

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I have found that genuine ebay messages come straight to my inbox, whereas the spoof ones go to the Junk mail box. Just click on forward and send it to spoof @ebay.com

WillowTheWhisp 28-03-2006 10:36

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Some spoof/scam eBay messages come to my email inbox some to my email junk but genuine eBay messages should also show up in your "my messages" in your "my eBay"

KIPAX 28-03-2006 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle
Following on from our scam thread last week I received this email today from Ebay.

No you didn't


Use text only emails and you will never have a problem... unless your daft enough to open attachments.

Madhatter 28-03-2006 18:28

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No she didn't what? I'm lost.

KIPAX 28-03-2006 18:33

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1) i recieved an email from ebay

2) no you didnt..


go on then... at what point did you get lost?:) bearing in mind had you read the thread you are replying to you would know that the whole point of this discussion is that it wasn't from ebay at all..

Take yer time :)

Gayle 28-03-2006 21:25

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Much as I don't like the way he pointed my error out to me, Kipax is actually right, I should have said 'pretending to be from ebay'.

KIPAX 28-03-2006 21:32

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The way? what way? It was typed while in a lighthearted mood and meant to be funny... not hillarious side splitting fall off your chair funny.. just mildy amusing

dont be such a drama queen.. its a messagboard for crying out loud :)

Gayle 29-03-2006 06:53

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Good grief, if that's your idea of lighthearted, I'd hate to see you in a bad mood, oh no, wait, I already have done! :p

Of course I'm a drama queen, I'm an actress don't you know, luvvie :D

KIPAX 29-03-2006 07:22

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Gayle. get a grip woman. its a messageboard and you have no way of knowing what mood people are in no matter how clever you think you are.... and yes i saw the smiley. Does that mean your happy.. or does it mean you want me to think your happy. Try not to be too clever eh :)


See I did a smiley as well :) ooops theres another.

Gayle 29-03-2006 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
Gayle. get a grip woman. its a messageboard and you have no way of knowing what mood people are in no matter how clever you think you are.... and yes i saw the smiley. Does that mean your happy.. or does it mean you want me to think your happy. Try not to be too clever eh :)


See I did a smiley as well :) ooops theres another.

Who's telling who not to be too clever - you started it :p See what I did there, I stuck my tongue out at you! Is that me being cheeky and cute, or is that me being rude! :D I'm grinning now because you won't know if I'm being nice or nasty.

So just to make absolutely sure that you realise that I have got a grip and that I am in a good mood :) :) :) :) :) :)

KIPAX 29-03-2006 11:20

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Quote:

So just to make absolutely sure that you realise that I have got a grip and that I am in a good mood
thats what your telling us....

i prefer to believe your sat naked and getting hot at the thought of toying with my emotions like this...

but what do i know.....

Neil 29-03-2006 11:23

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Please can I be referee and award ackers to whoever has the biggest handbag? :D
Just for the record I always think of you both fully clothed :)

KIPAX 29-03-2006 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Just for the record I always think of you both fully clothed :)

I aint getting dressed just to make you happy..

Neil 29-03-2006 11:34

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Shh don't Gayle but you're in the lead already. For one thing your a man +1 point, and Gayle is a politician -1 point. Now all we need to do is find enough people to vote for you and your the winner ;)

KIPAX 29-03-2006 11:37

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Yeagh thats gonna happen.... the accyweb mafia have adopted her... i will be in for it when they see this :)

Gayle 29-03-2006 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
Yeagh thats gonna happen.... the accyweb mafia have adopted her... i will be in for it when they see this :)

Are you talking to me. I said ARE YOU TALKING TO ME!

Watch out for the horses heads in your bed!


PS - Neil, you're on my list too! Politician -1, it should be politician + 3 for putting our head above the parapet for you to shoot it down. :D

Gayle 29-03-2006 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
thats what your telling us....

i prefer to believe your sat naked and getting hot at the thought of toying with my emotions like this...

but what do i know.....


I am.......












































.....toying with your emotions!:p

Doug 29-03-2006 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle
Who's telling who not to be too clever - you started it :p See what I did there, I stuck my tongue out at you! Is that me being cheeky and cute, or is that me being rude! :D I'm grinning now because you won't know if I'm being nice or nasty.

So just to make absolutely sure that you realise that I have got a grip and that I am in a good mood :) :) :) :) :) :)

Gayle Knight being cute and rude at the same time, :) oh good, :p would you like wear the green costume Gayle? I think you look cracking in Green. :D Well, I’d love to spend time doing now’t but I have to work for a living. :rolleyes:

By the way, I’ve had to almost obligatory e-mail purporting to be from e-Bay, mine was the one asking me if I’d like to cancel the $47 purchase of a 18” Blackman’s whooper :eek: I made and have the refund made to my card……The spam filter picked it up and binned it. :)

Gayle 29-03-2006 12:10

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Careful Doug, or Kipax will get on your case as well. You didn't receive an email FROM ebay, you received an email that looked like it came from ebay. :D

KIPAX 29-03-2006 12:14

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get on his case? even though i explained it was meant lighthearted and you took it the wrong way... ffs woman do you ahve to try and poison everyones mind :(


































so what mood am i in now? 12 karma for the first right answer

Tealeaf 29-03-2006 12:22

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Hey Kipax....stop winding up Gayle...that's my job.

entwisi 29-03-2006 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
so what mood am i in now? 12 karma for the first right answer

Flippant? :)

KIPAX 29-03-2006 12:27

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Look tealeaf you wernt here . simple as that .. someone had to step up for you.. and as a mate i thought i would help you out.... if it aint appreciated then just say so


:)

KIPAX 29-03-2006 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi
Flippant? :)

nagh...............(dots cus message too short...sigh..)

Mick 29-03-2006 12:31

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I think you should all stop winding people up and get back on topic

Tealeaf 29-03-2006 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
Look tealeaf you wernt here . simple as that .. someone had to step up for you.. and as a mate i thought i would help you out.... if it aint appreciated then just say so


:)

You're right, Kipax...I was in the middle of a sausage sandwich...not quite thinking straight.

Gayle 29-03-2006 12:41

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Hey, you lot, listen to Mick and quit it!

You tell 'em Mick! Gayle goes and hides behind Mick :p to the rest of you.

KIPAX 29-03-2006 12:43

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OK fair does.. You got my weak spot with that.. I love sausage on toast.... Have a couple at Lymm services on the way to every away game (that passes that service)

Ya cant beat a good sausage butty.. esp toasted...

KIPAX 29-03-2006 12:45

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Gayle ya cant hide behind mick.. yer bigger than him :)

hmm ok .. was having fun but it would seem we have to stay on topic instead... i will retreat to somewhere my humor is appreciated... hmm actually.. i now have this craving for a saus......................

daydreamcatcher 06-06-2006 10:19

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I have to say the scammers on ebay are getting very "clever" these days. When I first started with Ebay a few years back, I was very gullible and didn't understand it all, anyway I got stung with a link for "Paypal" and ended up having £254 taken out of my bank account and just before Christmas too!

Luckily I got the money back after 6 months and it bought my daughter a playhouse, but nontheless.

The latest one that seems to be doing the round at the moment is when someone emails you saying you have "won something" like this

I get a message from a seller

'item shipped cheers '

I look at the discription it isnt and item that i bid on. I tried to check the item number and 'view here' but it says the item is in dispute as non paid.

I have checked 'my ebay' and definitely not me! - I've not actually bought anything for a couple of weeks (highly unusual for me in itself, but knew I hadn't bought it!!)

Also another one doing the rounds at the minute is through the classified ads such as Loot and Freeads etc. We've recently advertised two cars on there and we must have had around 100 emails from these scumbags! Heres the link below for you to check it out - its not just Western Union either!!

http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp

:mad:

Madhatter 06-06-2006 16:54

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change your passwords and I'd also never use ebay on internet explorer, only firefox.


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