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neilhaj 16-03-2009 20:26

upvc door
 
Hiya

i currently have a upvc front door which is all white plastic, i've decided i want to have a front door with a glass window in, my question is do i need to buy a whole new door or can you just buy the panel to fit inside the door? Are they any double glazers on accyweb? If so please IM with your answers / quotes

Thanks

Neil

Retlaw 16-03-2009 20:55

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Originally Posted by neilhaj (Post 693049)
Hiya

i currently have a upvc front door which is all white plastic, i've decided i want to have a front door with a glass window in, my question is do i need to buy a whole new door or can you just buy the panel to fit inside the door? Are they any double glazers on accyweb? If so please IM with your answers / quotes

Thanks

Neil

If the door was never designed to have a glass panel, then itwill be difficult, as none of them are designed to be removable like the ones already with a glass panel.

It is possible to fit one, but you need a craftsman who knows what he's doing.

Retlaw.

neilhaj 16-03-2009 20:59

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 693062)
If the door was never designed to have a glass panel, then itwill be difficult, as none of them are designed to be removable like the ones already with a glass panel.

It is possible to fit one, but you need a craftsman who knows what he's doing.

Retlaw.


Thanks for the reply Retlaw, i wouldn't even dream of tackling it on my own, i'd end up with no door left :D i'm going to pop into a glazers on day this week and see what they say, it might just be cheaper and easier to buy a full new door!

Thanks again

Neil

Neil 16-03-2009 21:09

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I know my parents front door has a removable middle panel. They replaced it a few years ago because it went yellow but the rest of the door was still white. I suspect they could have fitted a glass one. I am not big on glass front doors myself. Not too bad if you can't see through it but naff if you can.

K.S.H 17-03-2009 00:22

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yeah. the frame is made to fit your opening then the panel is cut to fit the frame. go into any of the door-window places and they will get you a panel for it, they'll want to know the thickness of it as well as size, there easy o do yourelf, just make sure yours hasn't been glued in
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Neil 17-03-2009 07:29

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 693123)
just make sure yours hasn't been glued in
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I know it was/is common practice to silicon glass units into frames that have external beads to stop people taken the beads out and just removing the glass from the outside to break in. Never noticed and externally beaded doors though so hopefully it wont be stuck in. I suspect they will be a pig to get out if they are.

jaysay 17-03-2009 10:14

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693167)
I know it was/is common practice to silicon glass units into frames that have external beads to stop people taken the beads out and just removing the glass from the outside to break in. Never noticed and externally beaded doors though so hopefully it wont be stuck in. I suspect they will be a pig to get out if they are.

With my limited experience with UPVC windows and doors Neil the glaze beading were always on the inside to prevent them being easy to break into, the only windows I came across with outside beadings were Shop front windows, but I have to say I didn't fit to many UPVC in homes as most of my work was in Bars (and I don't mean drinking either:D)and Shops

Neil 17-03-2009 10:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 693215)
With my limited experience with UPVC windows and doors Neil the glaze beading were always on the inside to prevent them being easy to break into, the only windows I came across with outside beadings were Shop front windows, but I have to say I didn't fit to many UPVC in homes as most of my work was in Bars (and I don't mean drinking either:D)and Shops

A lot of domestic ones were externally beaded. Some new ones still are. It was a glazier who told me a lot of his work was just putting the glass unit back in and knocking the beads back in after break ins. He was the one who said about siliconing the glass in

K.S.H 17-03-2009 13:54

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There beaded both internally and externally, just depends on the manufacturer and which way he thinks about security.
externally beaded you can kick or push as hard and for as long as you like from outside and you won't push that panel in, your up against 5mm or so of solid plastic so its not going anywhere, you could take the beading out though, remove the spacers and the panel will literally fall out - hence the siliconing in to stop this, it will be hard to get hold of it and pull it out if its held with silicone.
Internally beaded Can't get at the beading to remove the panel, they don't take much to be kicked in though, that beadings only held in by a sliver of plastic

Neil 17-03-2009 14:03

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Even better fit a proper wooden door :D:D

K.S.H 17-03-2009 14:12

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Thats what I prefer, rather have wood windows too but UPVC is the easy maintenance option

jaysay 17-03-2009 16:38

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 693281)
Even better fit a proper wooden door :D:D

Now your talking Neil, I made the front door for the house I lived in in Rossendale around 1978 made it out of Mahogany, went past the house last summer was still going strong and looked brand new, nout better than wood if you look after it:mosher:

mattylad 17-03-2009 22:40

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Just remember that a door with a big window in is an easy way into your house.

It's easy to smash the window and then open the door or climb in.

jaysay 18-03-2009 10:15

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Originally Posted by mattylad (Post 693534)
Just remember that a door with a big window in is an easy way into your house.

It's easy to smash the window and then open the door or climb in.

Can agree with that mattylad, the first thing I did when I moved into my flat was to put plywood panels on the front door because it was a frame door with two big glass panels. With my door being inside and in a nook as well, it was an open invite for people to break in especially if I was in dock at the time

steveh 23-03-2009 20:38

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Yes I am a double glazer, yes you can remove the existing panel and replace with any style you want, you first need to find a panel you like, call me and I will arrange for a catalogue to be posted to you

Steve 07552 169505


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