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ian1 01-02-2011 18:15

Electritian needed ,
 
As above , i need a recomended sparky to have a look at my fuse box at home , and give me a quote on what needs fixing / replaceing , the 30 amp fuse (old baker light ) is getting red hot when we put dryer, wall fire ,deep fat fryer on , i went under stairs and it was full of smoke and could see the fuse glowing !:eek: i turned off the fryer and it cooled down but the fuse box and fuse look a bit sad , and i don't want it to burst into flames !!:dflam:
any help would be brill !
ian

Neil 01-02-2011 18:58

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
You had 3 pieces of equipment switched on that probably all pull 10 amps or more. Add to that the other electrical equipment plugged in and you were overloading that 30amp fuse which caused it to get warm. A photo of it would have been a nice reminder to other people to get theres checked out. You probably have a bad connection on that fuse causing the heat if it got that hot. The fuse would usually blow if it was that hot. What was glowing? The middle of the fuse or one of the ends?

I am glad you are going to get it looked at, please do it really soon before you have a fire.

ian1 01-02-2011 19:07

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
I could see it red hot at the top of the fuse , probly were the fuse plugs in to the box , I though too why has it not blown , the plastic cover of the box had started to melt a bit too ,
Thanx
Ian

Less 01-02-2011 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian1 (Post 879913)
I could see it red hot at the top of the fuse , probly were the fuse plugs in to the box , I though too why has it not blown , the plastic cover of the box had started to melt a bit too ,
Thanx
Ian

Unplug everything and do not turn anything on until you have had your electrics checked, unless you like seeing men in firemans uniform.
If you can't find an emergency electrician, I'm sure the fire brigade will recommend one.
Better safe than sorry, by the way, when I say everything I also include your computer.

Less 01-02-2011 19:57

You are still online, I hope you live alone, I don't want to hear about a family burnt to death, stop using your electric, if things are as bad ad you described, don't use anything.

Neil 01-02-2011 21:16

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian1 (Post 879913)
I could see it red hot at the top of the fuse , probly were the fuse plugs in to the box , I though too why has it not blown , the plastic cover of the box had started to melt a bit too ,
Thanx
Ian

Don't think why just turn it off and get it looked at by an expert.
The 30 amp fuse will carry a lot more than 30 amp before it blows. You have a bad connection which is causing the heat. A lot less than 30 amps is needed to create that heat. The more current you pull through that bad connection the more heat you will get.

It is unsafe, do as Less says and turn off your electric or you risk a fire tonight.

Less 01-02-2011 21:21

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
I think the guy is on something, (or extracting it).

Neil 01-02-2011 21:23

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
You can lead a horse to water but it can't put your fire out.

ian1 01-02-2011 21:51

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
All sockets are turned off and fuse is out got able electrics coming round tomorow , it (fuse ) has nearly fell in two when I took it out ,
Thanx for the advice
Ian
And am on mi phone writin this not mi computer ,

ian1 02-02-2011 12:39

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Sorted , a new holder was needed as two wires were shorting it out , I have a pic of what's left of the fuse and holder , I'll up load it when I can ,
Ian

Neil 02-02-2011 13:22

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Did you fix it yourself?

ian1 02-02-2011 17:59

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Nope , I rang a mate who rents houses out and his electrition came round ,
Ian

Neil 02-02-2011 21:59

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Please put the pictures on, I am interested to see the damage

ian1 03-02-2011 18:05

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 17408 Pic mi fuse :eek:
ian

Alan Varrechia 03-02-2011 18:31

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Mmmmm, that don't look like fuse wire to me. Looks like spmeones put a piece of copper wire in instead, no wonder it didn't blow and got red hot. You were very lucky.:eek:

ian1 03-02-2011 19:04

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
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Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia (Post 880360)
Mmmmm, that don't look like fuse wire to me. Looks like spmeones put a piece of copper wire in instead, no wonder it didn't blow and got red hot. You were very lucky.:eek:

Nope fuse wire in fuse 30 amp , the copper wires are what was the cable they were shorting out on each other and mealted there wire coating ,
!! and yep was very lucky !!
i put lotto on ,but never won !!

Barrie Yates 03-02-2011 20:19

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian1 (Post 880372)
Nope fuse wire in fuse 30 amp , the copper wires are what was the cable they were shorting out on each other and mealted there wire coating ,
!! and yep was very lucky !!
i put lotto on ,but never won !!

Not very clear but the end of the cartridge fuse looks as though it has been "repaired" so it could be of higher rating than printed on the body?

ian1 03-02-2011 20:27

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
The top bit of the fuse came off when I pulled it out , I lived here for 9 years and I ain't put any higher amp wire in it , so I been luckY for 9 years then I guess ,
Thanx for your input :)
Ian

Neil 03-02-2011 22:37

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 880392)
Not very clear but the end of the cartridge fuse looks as though it has been "repaired" so it could be of higher rating than printed on the body?

Its not a cartridge fuse is a rewirable one so depends what fuse wire you wire it with. Horrible things by modern standards but many people still have them. I replaced mine when we moving in about 8 years ago.

Barrie Yates 04-02-2011 08:52

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 880459)
Its not a cartridge fuse is a rewirable one so depends what fuse wire you wire it with. Horrible things by modern standards but many people still have them. I replaced mine when we moving in about 8 years ago.

Take your word for it, would probably have been clearer if the fuse holder was viewed from the other side - the last wired fuses I saw in UK was RAF MQs in 1975 and they changed those for plug in MCBs.
Is there a way to enlarge the thumbnail pictures?

Neil 04-02-2011 08:54

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 880500)
Is there a way to enlarge the thumbnail pictures?


Just left click it

Barrie Yates 04-02-2011 16:42

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 880503)
Just left click it

Thanks Neil, glad I am still not too old to learn something new every day:)

wallop79 05-02-2011 16:30

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
What you have is an old Wylex rewireable fusebox, you need a more up to date RCD consumer unit installing, as the problem you mentioned would have caused a modern consumer unit to trip, as for reliable sparks you need to use a NICEIC spark, the spark will give you a certificate for installing a consumer unit, having one installed is a lot safer than yer house burning down you could try Empress Electrical, Barry Mercer, Able Electrical, C & W, P J Wright, Steve Elley. you can find their numbers either in phone book or on NICEIC site.

Less 05-02-2011 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 881081)
What you have is an old Wylex rewireable fusebox, you need a more up to date RCD consumer unit installing, as the problem you mentioned would have caused a modern consumer unit to trip, as for reliable sparks you need to use a NICEIC spark, the spark will give you a certificate for installing a consumer unit, having one installed is a lot safer than yer house burning down you could try Empress Electrical, Barry Mercer, Able Electrical, C & W, P J Wright, Steve Elley. you can find their numbers either in phone book or on NICEIC site.

I would hope that the electrician he used, a person that works for a private landlord, has all the correct certification and also checked out the rest of the circuit before issuing a certificate stating that all is well after such a very bad mishap.

Though I doubt it.

ian1 05-02-2011 18:58

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
he did say it could do with updateing , and he did put some fancy electric thingy on it to see if it was safe and got the all clear , , just need to save up a few hundred quid to get the new consumer unit , but like you say better than burning your house down !
ian ,

Less 05-02-2011 19:11

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ian1 (Post 881130)
he did say it could do with updateing , and he did put some fancy electric thingy on it to see if it was safe and got the all clear , , just need to save up a few hundred quid to get the new consumer unit , but like you say better than burning your house down !
ian ,

So no certificate?

Well 'P' reg is working then...

or is it?
:rolleyes:

Neil 06-02-2011 01:55

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 881081)
What you have is an old Wylex rewireable fusebox, you need a more up to date RCD consumer unit installing, as the problem you mentioned would have caused a modern consumer unit to trip......

It might not have caused a modern consumer unit to trip. You could easily have a bad connection causing heat and the current in the circuit be lower than the rating of the MCB so it would not trip. Please dont assume MCB's will protect you better than fuses for all faults.

Neil 06-02-2011 01:58

Re: Electritian needed ,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 881137)
So no certificate?

Well 'P' reg is working then...

or is it?
:rolleyes:


Part P is a waste of time.

I don't think you would need to be 'qualified' in part P terms anyway to change the fuse holder and trim back the burnt cable.

You can still do some things.


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