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Well, despite posting the above a few months ago, I have recently had to use Ryanair because it was the only airline flying between the two airports I wanted to use.

I have to say it wasn't nearly as bad as I feared. The only minus point was two gestapo-like female flight attendants measuring everybody's hand luggage at the boarding gate. Once on board, its exactly the same as Easyjet, Monarch, Jet2,com etc etc.

If you travel Ryanair, then as long as you play the game in terms of hand luggage, its really not that bad! And they pride themselves on their punctuality record.

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Just goes to show gynn, that there is a work for former female members of the KGB:D

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I have used them a few times, not had any probs with them.

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Know what you mean about the hand luggage, not even allowed a mm over. But i'm like a big kid when the plane lands, can't wait for the trumpet to blow. I know it's a recording but i always imagine the pilot doing it.

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Never heard a trumpet??

Can I just ask while we are on this subject, why do people applause when the plane lands? ;)

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They're thanking god they've made it safe and sound, heth:D

Self congratulation, you happened to be on the same flight as the engineers that fixed the plane, they were on their way to another job, the chewing gum actually worked!

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Thankyou both for your answers...................ask a silly question.:rolleyes:

I just find it very strange that people do this thats all!!

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I remember one bloke was so grateful he'd landed safely he actually got down on his knees and kissed the tarmac:rolleyes::D

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I hate flying so as soon as they open them doors I am off!!
Not as fast as I would like as my Diazapan is still in my system!! :D

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It's that Pope bloke ! He's known for it :D But I didn't realize the Catholic Church was so strapped for cash they have to use Ryan Air !

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They'll use out if its free:D

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Ah well that answers a lot of questions :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D

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Oi cheeky!! :D

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Just a little aside, I was sat down on one of the Canals here in Germany doing a bit of majit drowndin & this old German Boy came along with his Dog. We got to chatting & he asked if I was English as he'd picked up an accent as I spoke my bestest German.

I replied in the positive & he then asked where I was from, I told him Liverpool, he nodded sagely then began to reel off several Ports around UK although he'd never gotten to the "Pool". Much intrigued I asked if he'd been a Sailor in his younger days, he grinned, shook his head & said "Actually I was a Bomber pilot !"

Eeh, it's a funny old World ! As I know the German airports Ryan Air flew in & out of, it seem this Old Boy had been doing the same thing quite a few years earlier.

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Like you heth, I hate flying and also take Diazapan, plus other chemical heart muck. I hate flying so much that I gave it up in 1960. I was assistant dispatcher (chucking landrovers etc out the back on parachutes) flying Beverley's out of Old Sarum and we had to have the rear doors off because they couldn't be opened in flight. The toilet was a big Elsan pan behind a canvas sheet and in my case it was useful.
Maybe Ryanair is a bit better but I have been all over Europe and always gone via Channel and road.

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Yeh should have grinned,shook yer head n thrown him in the cut, saying swine yeh bombed our chippy.:D

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I remember going on a football supporters trip a few years ago, and someone came round collecting for a whip-round for the pilot!

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Gynn that's very nice they have a whip rounds for the pilot's, there are two of us!!!:eek:
As to the clapping, I have never managed to figure that out, we used to get it in Morocco all the time!!!!:eek:
Now my passengers would complain if we spilt their gin and tonic on landing, but that's corporate aviation for you:D:D

Right some real info about the great Ryanair.

They fly Boeing 737-800's a new aircraft and are very safe and efficient.
To join as a pilot you pay them 50.00 euro to look at your CV, then you pay 500 euro for a assessment, if you pass this you have to pay 20-30,000 for your type rating for the aircraft. Because of this they only employ newly qualified pilots as first officers, so those of us with experience are not allowed in.
Once you pass this, you work for 6 months without pay. If you pass your final Line Check Flight, you do start to earn money.
But there are deductions for, uniform, recurrent training, id pass, car parking etc. There is no sick pay, no holiday pay and you only earn money when you work.
Your pay works like this, you are paid for the scheduled flight time of the flight. Not for turning up 1 hour before and not during the turn around.
The working hours are among the hardest in the business, they can change base on you at a moments notice.
If is not unheard of to see a Ryanair FO sleeping in his car.
You are classed as self employed and are responsible for your own taxes.
I once went to a employment seminar for Ryanair, their ethos is this 'TOUGH' I kid you not.

As for Captains, well mostly they are recruited from within, so a lot of the Captains are young with not much life experience. There are some from the outside of Ryanair. The set up is the same for them as well.
As to the cabin crew, well it is rather worse for them, they pay for everything as well, even for their initial training.
There is immense pressure on crew to sell and get things done.
But because you want to go to Paris for less than it costs you in petrol to get to Manchester Airport , they are there.

Passengers are treated like cattle, there is no customer service.
Yes they are safe, well flying nearly new aircraft helps low experienced crews because you have less problems.

I once flew as a passenger, in my company uniform, both the Capt and First Officer asked me if I could get them a job at my place.
I would not fly as a passenger with them again, or work for them ever.

To compare Ryanair with Easyjet or Jet 2 is wrong, the mentality to staff is a world apart.

So why do people work for Ryanair, well some of it is to do with newly qualified pilots are two a penny, thousands of them looking for jobs. Ryanair gives you the chance to fly Jet Aircraft and it is tempting. After that it is a place to work until you have experience for the next job.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with the crews, I know several good captains who are ex Ryanair and would go back if it was not for the internal politics.
The same with cabin crew.

But if you want a really cheap flight then by all means fly with them. I won't as I disagree with their working conditions etc

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There was me thinking Ryanair used outside toilets Gremlin:D

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Must have been very advisable to drop a tenner in the hat in that case gynn:D

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That must have been before my time jaysay but I have heard that some crew did use the outside toilet, there were two big handles to hang onto and you just put your bum over the door sill and let rip. :tongueout

ps for boeing guy,

I still can't manage to get the 737 on the runway at Manchester after a flight from Birmingham, when is the next lesson.

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Perhaps this will help:-

YouTube - "Use the force, Luke."

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Nah Less its more like this:
YouTube - Yorkshire Airlines

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Excellent.
:D

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Very fitting Simon, I agree with his last comment, "If it's outside Yorkshire it's not worth bloody visiting", maybe because I am a Yorkshire man.

I got your PM and have sent an email with new address.

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One of the things I was warned to watch out for on Ryanair flights was the pilots use of the "Fasten Seat Belt" signs. They have a strange habit of lighting up just before the crew are due to come round with the scratch cards and perfumes, thus ensuring everybody is in their seats ready to pay up.

Lo and behold, it happened on my flights, and there wasn't a hint of turbulence about.

Is it true, Boeing Guy, that the seat belts signs are used in this way?

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Wouldn't have mattered in my case gynn every time I took to the skies I kept my seat belt on all the time, jaysay and flying did not mix, in fact I was elated when my doc advised me not to fly again:D

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What? No more waccy baccie?
:joint::hippy:

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Teeheehee!!!

Ryanair 'outsized' baggage charge: Police escort 100 from plane on Lanzarote runway | Mail Online

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That wouldn't have made much difference to me Less, never tried the funny stuff once, the ordinary coffin nails were bad enough;)

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Hmmmm.

So one person refuses to pay the baggage charge and 100 people are thrown off the plane.

Do you think maybe we aren't being told the whole story here?

:confused::confused::confused:

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That's exactly what I though Gynn!
Doubt it very much......

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perhaps yeh aint reading the report right gynn? says one person refused n a large scuffle broke out,;) reading between the lines says to me, chav n his mates have had few n normal behavior commences.:D

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Sounds about right cashy:D

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Agree with all that Boeing Guy said,I have flown with that bunch of clowns twice and never again, if I'd have been able to swap my return flight I would have. Their cabin crew have to provide their own pens and a calculator if they wanted to use one, and pay for their own crummy uniforms, makes you wonder what other corners they cut.

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Sadly what happened today in Cork could have been avoided.

This is part of the problem with today's low cost revolution, someting has to give and sadly people died.
I am not for one second attributing blame on anybody, but and this is a huge but, why did the flight crew not divert after the 2nd attempt. We will find out when the crash report is written, until then it is all just speculation.

Ryanair push their crew very hard.
The crew are well trained, but so were the Manx 2 crew, as am I, we all make mistakes, bad management should not be a factor.

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I've just had a very unfortunate experience with Ryanair.

I boarded the plane this morning, and mindful of the policy of no seats pre-allocated, I took a seat at the front of the aircraft. The next thing I knew, a man came up and told me I was in his seat.

"I'm sorry" I said,"but there are no pre allocated seats."

He wasn't satisfied. Again he told me I was sitting in his seat.

I was worried now, having heard about the sort of person who travels Ryanair. But I was determined to stand my ground. "There ARE no pre allocated seats" I said.

"Okay!" he said "Well in that case, you can fly the bloody plane!"

:o:o:o

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that made me laugh!!! heeheehee!! :D

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Seems you landed okay gynn

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Gynn,
That will serve you right for turning left on entering to try to sit in the 'Alan Bennett' class.
YouTube - Yorkshire Airlines