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flashy 12-05-2014 11:16

Handcream
 
In need of a little advice please

Since i started working on the ward 8 months ago, my hands have become rather a mess...due to the amount of handwashing and handgel we use (i work on a very demanding ward, everytime we see a patient we wash before putting on gloves and after we take the gloves off) they have become almost transparent and my skin very shiney, and often very irritated.
Can anyone recommend a really good handcream that i could pop into my uniform pocket that would protect my hands? i am using cocoa butter at the moment and its rubbish

thankya kindly

MargaretR 12-05-2014 11:27

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This lotion is wonderful but pricey at £22 a big bottle.

"ANCIENT MINERALS MAGNESIUM LOTION:

Ideal for children and sensitive individuals
Highly therapeutic for psoriasis, eczema, and other skin conditions
Significant for massage applications
Effective at encouraging healthy skin tissue"



My chiropodist does my feet with it after nail cutting. She has a sensitive skin and was so impressed that she asked where she could buy some.
Magnesium lotion

It contains coconut oil (which is like butter) and shea butter, so I think either of those would be fine if you don't need the (expensive) magnesium ingredient.

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2014 11:43

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Udderly Smooth moo cream.
I know it sounds a really daft name but this stuff(8.99 from Amazon-a very large tub....but can be decanted into a uniform friendly pot) is very good. It is not greasy, leaves no marks and a little bit goes a long way.
It is recommended by doctors treating cancer patients who get very sore dry hands (and feet)as the result of chemo.
I have a large tub of this in my bathroom and I use it frequently. My hands are permanently damaged as a result of hand washing and the use of strong detergents used in my career.....and my hands love it.

gpick24 12-05-2014 11:50

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The mrs uses this stuff - E45 Dermatological Cream 350g - Boots

westendlass 12-05-2014 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106000)
Udderly Smooth moo cream.
I know it sounds a really daft name but this stuff(8.99 from Amazon-a very large tub....but can be decanted into a uniform friendly pot) is very good. It is not greasy, leaves no marks and a little bit goes a long way.
It is recommended by doctors treating cancer patients who get very sore dry hands (and feet)as the result of chemo.
I have a large tub of this in my bathroom and I use it frequently. My hands are permanently damaged as a result of hand washing and the use of strong detergents used in my career.....and my hands love it.

My daughter also works for the NHS and she too has problems with her hands. She gets quite deep splits in her fingertips and nothing she has tried has worked so far. I tell her about moo cream and see if it makes a difference Margaret.

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2014 12:44

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I get similar splits in my fingers.....and I have pompholx eczema. I have tried all kinds of stuff.....this cream works for me.....and although it may seem a lot to fork out.....my tub has lasted me almost a year. I apply it sparingly, but after each hand wash.

This cream was originally formulated for the treatment of sore udders on cows.....and that is where the name comes from.

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2014 13:06

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Udderly-Smoo...udderly+smooth

There is a link for you.

westendlass 12-05-2014 13:36

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Thanks for the link Margaret, I'll show her when she comes in.

flashy 12-05-2014 16:48

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ah thanx Marg, i will get some of that, inbetween my fingers peel a lot too, it looks quite freaky at times, but i wouldnt change my job for the world

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2014 17:12

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Shaz, it is so good to hear that you are enjoying it.
I am really pleased for you.

flashy 12-05-2014 17:57

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just ordered some thankyou Marg, cost me over £6 for 'normal' delivery...robbing gets lol

DaveinGermany 12-05-2014 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106039)
i wouldnt change my job for the world

Good for you Lass, after all the struggling to find something, looks like you've dropped on your feet with this one. :)

davebtelford 12-05-2014 18:32

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Anyone tried Argan Oil from Morocco ?

flashy 12-05-2014 18:35

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Argan oil leaves my skin greasy Dave

flashy 12-05-2014 18:36

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1106049)
Good for you Lass, after all the struggling to find something, looks like you've dropped on your feet with this one. :)

i definately did DiGy, best job ive ever had

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2014 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106048)
just ordered some thankyou Marg, cost me over £6 for 'normal' delivery...robbing gets lol

That is a bit steep. I normally don't pay.....but I know they have changed the rules on what you can get free delivery on.
I hope it does the trick for you Shaz......if it does, it will be worth it.

davemac 14-05-2014 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106048)
just ordered some thankyou Marg, cost me over £6 for 'normal' delivery...robbing gets lol

A bit late now as you have ordered it, however next time, it is free delivery over £10, so if you order two and choose the free delivery option it will cost £16.58p, that means that you get two for only a couple of pounds more than one plus delivery.

flashy 15-05-2014 00:37

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thanx for that Dave, the cream came today and so far tonight (at work) my hands havent been stinging

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 07:13

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use it regularly Shaz and your hands will be as soft as a baby's bum.

Neil 15-05-2014 07:21

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Do they not supply after work cream at work? It should be as much a part of your work supplied skin care program as the cleaning stuff they supply. In industry we have pre work cream, a couple of hand wash stuff and after work cream in all the wash rooms. I guess pre work cream is a no no with patients but I am surprised after work isn't supplied. My hands get a mess at times with all the washing with harsh abrasive cleaners and the oil/grease/solvents and have found some Neutrogena Norwegian Formula Concentrated Hand Cream stuff to be good. It looks expensive because it's a small tube but you don't need much but it's good and I have tried a few. My problem is remembering to use it :(

davemac 15-05-2014 07:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106176)
thanx for that Dave, the cream came today and so far tonight (at work) my hands havent been stinging

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106184)
use it regularly Shaz and your hands will be as soft as a baby's bum.

I too have ordered this product, I went for the two option, but choosing the free delivery option puts a couple of days on the product arriving, but as soon as it arrives my udders will be getting a coating.

I will be keeping an eye on my bum to see if this product can indeed reverse time.

flashy 15-05-2014 12:12

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Neil, they dont provide us with after work stuff, i dont mean to state the obvious but would i really be in need of paying what i paid for this nice handcream if the NHS provided it for their staff? :-)

Dave, i applied it to my hands that many times last night, i hope it works....one minute i had handcream on, next i was washing it off to deal with a patient, then back on again afterwards

RainbowSix 15-05-2014 12:16

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Perhaps have a word with the union reps and get them to provide it then, after all its towards your health - if you are unable to use your hands because of all the processes you have to endure then you'll be off work etc.

BTW - did you notice the cow cream has urea (wee) in it :)
Are the NHS OK with you using cow wee on your hands before you see another patient?

Nivea has been tested and proven to be much better than expensive creams (saw it on a tv show).

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 12:17

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I have used the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula......it didn't do for me at all.
It was greasy and made my hands very itchy.

Dave I didn't say that this cream would reverse the effects of time, on your BTM...anyway...I thought it was for your hands?

I have to admit that I use the Udderly smooth cream all over when I have a shower......well, all over the places I can actually reach:D.

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 12:22

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Urea has healing properties and is many products aimed at healing cracked heels.
Why do you think service men were advised to pee on their feet when they had blisters......and why did grandma suggest putting wee on chilblains to make them better??
Well, because of the urea in the wee.

While this cream may look expensive, it really isn't because you need only a very small amount.

Nivea does not do for my skin either......I can use Dove cream for a short while(and Dove is one of the few hand creams that is recommended by dermatologists)...but then I have to change to something else or it stops working.

flashy 15-05-2014 12:42

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Nivea is useless for work, it reacts with the handgel we use, putting it on after using handgel it just leavea a sticky mess on your hands

davemac 15-05-2014 13:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106198)
I have used the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula......it didn't do for me at all.
It was greasy and made my hands very itchy.

Dave I didn't say that this cream would reverse the effects of time, on your BTM...anyway...I thought it was for your hands?

I have to admit that I use the Udderly smooth cream all over when I have a shower......well, all over the places I can actually reach:D.

No, its not for my hands, and when the cream arrives I will be posting pictures on the "today" thread with the before, during, and after shots. Does it work for very wrinkly things ?

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 13:40

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No.....it isn't a wrinkle remover cream Dave.
Just something that soothes very dry, sore skin.
And that works for me.
If you want something to eradicate your wrinkles, then Boots have brought out a new serum which is supposed to work.
I have earned my wrinkles and I'm keeping them:D

davemac 15-05-2014 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106213)
No.....it isn't a wrinkle remover cream Dave.
Just something that soothes very dry, sore skin.
And that works for me.
If you want something to eradicate your wrinkles, then Boots have brought out a new serum which is supposed to work.
I have earned my wrinkles and I'm keeping them:D

I was just thinking of giving the wife a couple of coats that's all, I'm not buying her anything from Boots.

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 16:24

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well good luck with that one Dave.

(Nurse he's out of bed again...and on the prowl!)

davemac 15-05-2014 16:38

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106228)
well good luck with that one Dave.

(Nurse he's out of bed again...and on the prowl!)

And the medication has worn off.

Retlaw 15-05-2014 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1106227)
I was just thinking of giving the wife a couple of coats that's all, I'm not buying her anything from Boots.

Try Waddicors Varnish that might work, if nowt else it'll put a shine on things.:D

davebtelford 15-05-2014 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106048)
just ordered some thankyou Marg, cost me over £6 for 'normal' delivery...robbing gets lol

Seems to be a bit of a tactic - over £10 you get free postage so they price it under £10 & rip you off for postage !!!

davemac 15-05-2014 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1106231)
Try Waddicors Varnish that might work, if nowt else it'll put a shine on things.:D

I don't think she would stand still long enough for the varnish to dry, and she has enough creases as it is.

Retlaw 15-05-2014 20:14

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Hi Margaret P. Can you recommend a good anti wrinkle cream, Im having a bad day today, not at my best.

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 21:21

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Nothing at all that would solve that sort of problem Retlaw...i think even sandblasting would have a hard job on with that...past redemption I'm afraid.

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2014 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1106237)
Seems to be a bit of a tactic - over £10 you get free postage so they price it under £10 & rip you off for postage !!!

I would have no problem at all in spending over ten quid on Amazon.
I rarely pay postage for anything on Amazon.

I don't know where you would get this cream at a cheaper price...and like Dave says buy two and you save on the postage.

Neil 16-05-2014 08:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1106196)
Neil, they dont provide us with after work stuff, i dont mean to state the obvious but would i really be in need of paying what i paid for this nice handcream if the NHS provided it for their staff? :-)

Dave, i applied it to my hands that many times last night, i hope it works....one minute i had handcream on, next i was washing it off to deal with a patient, then back on again afterwards

At my place the cream and stuff is on the wall in dispensers so I can use it at work but not at home. I have seen the wash stuff on the wards in hospitals but wondered if they provide any extra skin care in staff wash rooms.

It's ironic that somewhere that will treat workers for work related dermatitis don't do much to protect there own staff from it.

cashman 16-05-2014 15:53

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I think Disgraceful is a better description than ironic Neil.;)

davemac 17-05-2014 09:06

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The cream has just arrived, so for the free delivery option it appears to be as fast, almost, as the paid for postage, ordered on the 15th delivered on the17th. Have to go now, off to give the wife a couple of coats.

davemac 17-05-2014 21:20

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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1106350)
The cream has just arrived, so for the free delivery option it appears to be as fast, almost, as the paid for postage, ordered on the 15th delivered on the17th. Have to go now, off to give the wife a couple of coats.

Its amazing all her wrinkles have disappeared and that's just with two applications.

Retlaw 17-05-2014 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1106396)
Its amazing all her wrinkles have disappeared and that's just with two applications.

Ecky peck, & Margaret P said it wouldn't work for me.:D

Margaret Pilkington 17-05-2014 22:14

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Have you told her that it is udder cream?

davemac 17-05-2014 22:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106402)
Have you told her that it is udder cream?


I did, the cream itself didn't remove the wrinkles but it made her skin soft enough for me to gather the loose around the back and get a line of bulldog clips in

davemac 17-05-2014 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1106401)
Ecky peck, & Margaret P said it wouldn't work for me.:D

I have some spare bulldog clips if you want them.

gpick24 17-05-2014 22:57

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I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again, davemac, you are as mad as a box of frogs.

Margaret Pilkington 18-05-2014 07:22

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Ah, but nice with it.

gpick24 18-05-2014 11:10

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106424)
Ah, but nice with it.

Of course.:)

DaveinGermany 18-05-2014 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1106402)
Have you told her that it is udder cream?

If she starts having urges to be milked twice a day she might just click on! :D

lettie 22-05-2014 18:16

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Neil is right, they do have Cutan cream on every ward for use after hand washing. Ours is in the staff toilets but it is a mandatory requirement that it is provided so if you don't have it then you need to speak to your ward manager and Infection Control. You are at far more risk of spreading an infection if your skin is shedding because of dryness.

flashy 22-05-2014 19:27

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lettie, have a walk down to ASU, we have none at all

lettie 23-05-2014 06:41

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Then you need to contact Infection Control. It is part of the monthly hand hygiene audit that hand cream is available.

Jay Mee 24-03-2015 08:52

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Hi there! You can make a handcream with a materials at hand for example olive oil and butter, you can also add some herbals.

Michael1954 24-03-2015 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Mee (Post 1136921)
Hi there! You can make a handcream with a materials at hand for example olive oil and butter, you can also add some herbals.

Hello, Jay Mee. Why not introduce yourself in the appropriate section above, and then maybe you could expand on how to make this hand cream.


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