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No 8 appears to look like the old Semes Vaults with a new coat of paint....I once got a pint of mixed in there, took one sup then threw up right over t'bar.

Happy days!

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Thanks Taggy, will make some enquiries

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I'm getting muddled up, what was this called?

Clitheroe Kates Pub, Mincing Lane:: OS grid SD6827 :: Geograph Britain and Ireland - photograph every grid square!

Thanks

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are ya sure Taggy?:confused: its confusing to me cos was all built up around yon,last time i was in.

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Yes Cashy..i'm 95% certain, because i used to work round the corner on St Peters Street, and i also remember the Italian barbers Pasarini that you can also see in the photo. The more modern Red Brick building to the right, used to be a Youth Club/Community centre (West End) i think it was called. The Door on the Corner of the Pub has obviously been blocked up, and there's just the side entrace now down the side street. The Dirty Duck used to be a little further down that side side on the opposite side! I'm probably going to Blackburn tomorrow so will have a gander if i do!

Best Regards - Taggy

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cheers Taggy what also threw me, was i'm sure the Dun Horse was a dutton house.:)

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Was there one called the Viking? Peel was round the corner from the Vulcan more of a druggy hippy place, remember a guy called Tarzan about 4' 6 long black hair and a beard was well known in the 60's

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Think it was called OLD BANK
i always found it to be the roughest pub on the coast when i used to go round there in the late 70's

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Here's the barbers if that's any help

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Does this photo help?

Blackburn now and then, Blackburns History throughout the years

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I always thought Legs 'O Man was the roughest one...even the best room was bare floor boards. I remember watching two ladies of the night have a cat fight in there one saturday...it drew a hell of a crowd of lads as they manouvered on the deck. It got so hot that we were getting pints of mild from the bar to sling over them just to cool 'em down, although they seemed to take no notice as each was intent on performing some pretty basic eye surgery on t'other.

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Don't think the Old Bank was on a corner spigs

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Don't recall a Viking on the coast, mind i'm talking early/late 60s.:)

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There were one or two choice establishments in the old days Tealeaf in the Tap Room of Little Grosvenor the ceiling and walls were splattered with blood, sawdust on the floor and a spittoon in the corner:rolleyes:

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Any of you lot remember that little hippie shop further up from the Castle/Dirty Duck? You could buy all sorts of stuff there..Oz magazine, grow your own waccy baccy kits, The Little Red Book (Thoughts of Chairman Mao), The Anarchist Cook Book, bomb making manuals..the lot. Fasinating place. They don't make 'em like that any more.

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Aye, blood in the spitoon and sawdust on the wall (to cover the rest of the blood).

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There was one up next door to the cinema slightly off the track what was that one?

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as jaysay says there were one or two rough joints, the "Sames Vault", Old Bank,Sun could get a bit iffy, but top of the pops without question in 60s to me was the "Legs" wi the legendary "Bob Cotton" in full flow, the County next door virtually was also a bit tasty.:D

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Yeah...I forgot about the County.

One thing is for sure...in those days men were men and women were tarts. Despite all the fun and games that went on inside, there was never any need to have bouncers on the door. Some of those old pub bruisers would be turning in their grave now seeing what goes on in friday and saturday nights in the town centre.

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I'm surprised nobody as mentioned Yates Wine Lodge, the old one, what a den of iniquity that place was, two docs of Australian white please love, who are you calling love WHACK:hitting8: :D

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I think I managed to get one in there before they pulled it down..must have been about '71, I think.

Funnily enough, one of my first drinking joints in London - back in late '79/80 - was a Yate's Wine Lodge, in Mayfair of all places. It was just off Bond Street. You could spend three hours getting totally ****faced on Aussie wines, then buy a loaf of bread, a can of sardines and a pint of milk from behind the bar to go home and sober up with.

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Was still open in 75/6 Tealeaf, all the bouncers from the Cav used to meet there before going on duty at 8-30

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You sure about that, Jaysay? i did quite a bit of drinking around Blackburn about 73/4 before I left for pastures anew and I seem to remember Yate's was in the old arcade, which got pulled down a few years before. Or am I, through the past mists of alcoholic inhebriance, getting confused with another location?

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No was down a side street Tealeaf, I worked at the Cav 74/5 When it shut they opened a brand new place nearer the town centre. The place we went to was really dank inside dark wood and you had to queue up for your drinks, the queue was roped off with brass upstands with red ropes between;)

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I cant remember exactly where that was Jaysay...was it further up on Church Street than where the newer one was but perhaps on the other side? My Dad once got a part time job there, but he's not with us anymore, and i never saw it at that time. I know he used to say there were some real characters in there, and they used to throw sawdust down on the floor, to help soak up the spilt ale etc etc!!:D

Best Regards - Taggy

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I've been in Blackburn today and had a wander over there. Yes thats definitely what was The Dunn Horse, there used to be 2 entrances, the one on the corner has now been blocked in, and has advertising on it, whilst the other entrance on Market Street Lane is still there!

The other Pub diagonally opposite, which now has the name Clitheroe Kates on the side is definitely what was The Old Bank, as far as i recall it was in a row of terraced property at some point, which will have altered how people remember it! Age does funny things to the mind, and i worked near there in the 70's early 80's and i think that there were buildings on both sides of what you see now, cant remember, what was on the corner next to it, where the grass is now. But i think at the other side, where there is the Car Park and Grass verge in front of the Co-Op Funeral Service, was a small row of terraces which might still have been a Funeral Parlour but a smaller concern than it is now!

Best Regards - Taggy

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The street it was on Taggy was at right angles to Church Street if I remember rightly, I know it wasn't fare from the Cav.

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Your right about the Old Bank, Taggy it was in the middle of row of terrace properties, went in quite often when Geoff Edwardson was the Landlord, he was on the committee of the Lancashire County Pool Association, when I was chairman

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Thanks for all the help

"Liquid Envy Blackburn" St Peter's Close (Street) Blackburn, Lancs BB2 2HB-Olympia Cinema

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Ah yes....The Golden Palms!!

Best Regards - Taggy

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With the twinkling star ceiling and the revolving stage:D

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i was a bit of a celebrity yon, they had me photo in the pay booth.:D

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Was it that one with all the numbers across the bottom;)

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...n-42672-4.html
Post number 47 shows you where it was

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Thanks for that. I can see now where i'd visualised it, but it was up Lord Street not Church Street and on left hand side!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Taggy, I only came to East Lanc's in 1974 and I always picture Yate's Wine Lodge on Church Street on the right walking towards King Street, before it was the "Chinese" upstairs, I wonder if they moved there for a short time?

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Yate's Wine Lodge did later move to Church Street Wadey, but i dont recall what year it moved. Wasn't somewhere i used too often, and i cant recall if there was a Chinese upstairs. I do Remember the Chinese upstairs over the Market Hall though!


Best Regards - Taggy

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It must have moved after 75 Taggy, mind you there was a lot of building work started around Blackburn in those days, Can always remember going past the Cave on Lords Square to get the Yates and it wasn't far way, the map JEFF reproduced seems to make me think I was right

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Yes i think your spot on with that Jaysay. As you say, was an awful lot of building work going on around then, as as you say (and the map shows too) that you could then walk straight up Lord Street, parallel to Church Street, and then Yates was on the left hand side..i'd got confused between Lord Street and Church Street. I guess it would have been around or after 75, i'd started work in Blackburn in 74 and can remember the new one opening but wasn't sure just when. Do you know anything about the Chinese Wadey is mentioning there, or is he perhaps getting mixed up with the one over the Market Hall?

Best Regards - Taggy

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I can only remember the Chinese which was on the corner on the upstairs, can't think it was over Yates though, was quite a big place.

Just a little wonder, anybody ever use the Sakumo restaurant on Ainham was right next door to M & M taxi's Mani and Marie, we used to go there every Friday after finishing work at the Cave, for a meal, then upstairs for a few bevvies:D

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Blackburn now and then, Blackburns History throughout the years

think the "Chinese" was on the right

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That's the one wadey but I don't think Yates was underneath it

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Ying Kin’s Chinese Restaurant above the Market.

Blackburn now and then, Blackburns History throughout the years

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That's the one wadey but I don't think Yates was underneath it

I agree that Yate's was further up

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The Cavendish in the 1970’s.

Blackburn now and then, Blackburns History throughout the years

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"Family Well-Being Resource Centre" 43 King Street. Blackburn | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

"The King's Head Inn" Thwaites Ales (Pub)

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Yep thats the one i was on about. I've been there a few times, when the only adventurous thing i'd have was ruddy Chicken Maryland!! Lol!

I cant recall the other Jaysay, but didn't get up Eanam way much, sometimes used the one on Darwen street, then bag a Taxi from Silverline i think they were.

Best Regards - Taggy

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all this talk of barbary coast has got me wanting a visit.
anyone fancy a barbary coast ( whats left of it ) saturday night pub crawl sometime ? :)

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Brings back a few memories that wadey, brings the old saying back to mind "manning the bridge" which was the most unpopular job at the Cav, just a pity there are no picks of the inside both before and after the fire

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Silverline taxis was owned by two brothers called Bernie the eldest one was called Jack and he came in the Coach and Horse pub on Hassy Road in the 70s, he had a farm on the left hand side of the road between the Brittan and Guide

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Yeah i recall the fire at the Cav Jaysay, it was always regarded as an "Insurance Job" but i guess most fires seem to get that rumour attached to them. We used to do some printing for them, and later when it became the Peppermint Place. Didn't they call it the "new" Cavendish once it reopened, and i think as a touch of irony the dot over the i in Cavendish became a Flame!!

I remember seeing Bob Monkhouse and Tommy Cooper there, as well as Showaddywaddy too!


Best Regards - Taggy

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If I still lived there I'd be up for it, If there is any interest would even make a special trip:dancedog:

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Tony Christie was always on at the Cav, Bernard Manning, The tymes ( Miss Grace) who was the Irish comedian around at the time?

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You sound like you are wicked...

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Hey can still party and do a pub crawl but would hope a responsible member would be present:D maybe a moderator!

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I was back stage security for Tommy and Showaddywaddy, the later were managed by Baileys who owned the Cav or New Cav as it was called, changed to peppers after I left

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Back Stage Security for Tommy!!!.....Did that involve keeping the drinks secure from him Jaysay?...Tommy was well known for his love of a tipple or 7!!:D


Best Regards - Taggy

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Frank Carson?

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Just phoned a friend. Dave Allen

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I saw Eartha Kitt there - complete with feather boa and chaise longue (her not me :D)

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Tommy was a very complex character Taggy, everything had to be in place every night, i.e. Same security, same taxi driver, same waitress etc. The Taxi driver, Tez used to pick me up at the stage door every night at 8-30 then of to the Saxon, Tez waited while I went up to Tommy's room, is first question was (and in exactly the same voice as TV) what they like tonight John( the audience) then I'd pick his bag up collect his agent from the next room then back to the Cav, then I was outside the door until he went on stage then back to the door afterwards, well usually inside the dressing room. You won't believe this but Tommy suffered from hug bouts of Stage Fright and necked nearly a full bottle of scotch before going on stage. On the Friday night he wen with us to the Sakumo restaurant for meal and a few drinks, He dropped me off in his taxi at Ossy Town Hall at 7am Saturday morning, with everybody waiting for the bus to Howard and Bulloughs, there faces were a picture with Tommy leaning out of the window shouting see you tonight John:D

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The one artiste who appeared at the Cav who I couldn't stand was Lynn Paul, ex New Seekers, her name translated into Chinese was Foo Kin Cow and she was one, big time, she was so far up herself it was unbelievable, was glad when she moved on

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Lynda Susan Belcher

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I had n Eartha Kitt yon meself.:D

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I had one of them whenever there was a coach load of scousers booked in the Cav on a Friday night

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Was that her proper name wadey, no wonder she changed it:p

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Was there not a Belcher Baths in Blackburn at one time? I wonder why it was so called...maybe summat to do with what you were swimming in?

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Twas Belper Street baths Tealeaf, if I remember rightly it was near the college

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No...that was Blakeamoor baths...really old Victorian stuff...like Accy baths, but alot smaller.

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Ya off course, but belper street weren't that fare because we actually went swimming during lunch when we were at college, the guy who was the supervisor was the chap who used to teach swimming at accy baths when I was a school, Jim Smith, he died not too long ago, there was an article in the Obs about him

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Yeah...I remember him...the man with the pole.

We had proper swimming pools in those days. Mind you, it was only about 6 years ago I got slung out that 'Waves' pool in Blackburn for misbehaving.

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might be getting confused here , but seem to remember Belper St. baths were in the Daisyfield area of Blackburn(off top of Harwood St.general area near the Sir William Hopwood pub/greyhound race track ? to the left before the railway underpass to the Northrop) , Blakemoor and Freckleton St. were the other two swimming baths in B,Burn ... talking about the late 50s early 60s

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Now you've got me puzzled SJ I know we used to go for a swim from college in the sixties and the baths were quite close to the college, somewhere between the college and the Mecca

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Lyn Paul, born Lynda Susan Belcher (16 February 1949 in Wythenshawe, Manchester), is an English pop singer. She changed her name to Lyn Paul before joining the international pop group The New Seekers in 1970. She has now found most recognition and critical acclaim as the lead role Mrs Johnstone, in long running West End musical Blood Brothers.

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Thanks for that wadey, but she's still a supercilious bitch, she really did think she was gods gift:(

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You are way off with Belper St. Baths. It is (still going) situated at th bottom of Belper st. off Cob Wall ,Whalley Old Road. about 300 mts from St. Albans Church.


Blackamoore Baths (girls only) was at the rear of King Georges Hall.


Freckleton St Baths was off King St. .
Freckleton St. was opposite what used to be the Elma Yerbugh pub. now a hire shop
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Pubs ... Vulcan, Jubilee, Ribbledale, George. Turn Right and at the bottom of St was the Swan, Sun and Thwaites or Saemes.
The Wine lodge was where Debenhams is opposite the Abbey.It moved to Church st..
Opposite the Cav was the Grosvenor Pub and there was a Chinese behind it down the ginnel

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Yep , it was the Daisyfield area ,got my pubs mixed up , was the Florance not the William Hopwood , general area around Moss st. near to where the railway station used to be . (Dog track was top end of Harwood st and Little Harwood/Daisyfield at the bottom end.)
Just taken a look at the area on Google earth and there sure have been lots of changes to the area . ;) :D

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Freckleton Street Baths, that where we went from college in the 60s

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Freckleton St baths were near St Peter's graveyard / church Jaysay, sort of near where the new bridge is now. Like you say, only a few minutes walk from the college.

Blakeymoor baths were in the basement of Blakeymoor school. I worked in that building for years while the baths were still open (council run). The college, who I worked for at the time, took over the baths when it closed. For years we used it as a storage area, but eventually it was converted into classrooms and staff areas. The pool is still there to this day, it was just boarded over. There's an access hatch in the middle classroom. I'll bet 99% of the students (and staff) that have classes in there don't realise there's a swimming pool below their feet. It must have been gas lit in its early days, as when we were converting it, I found an old gas mantle above a suspended ceiling.

Colin

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re cyril kenyon saw him today in the new blackburn market he now lives in the phillippines i worked for him in the early 80s when he had a couple of betting shops he's 76 now but still going strong and i once got thrown out of the old wine lodge it was just a bit higher up than the grosvenor pub past thwaites arcade it had a little off sales bit at the front we used to go in and buy australian white wine and go up on the car park to drink it be about 16 then and later started drinking there was all wood floors and a lovely polished bar and when you got the wine it came in a glass called a dock

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Those were the days used to meet in the wine lodge for a couple of docks of Aussie white before starting work at the Cav, we weren't allowed to drink on duty;)

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Sorry, I may have asked this before but what was this pub called in its heyday ?

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Looks like the Wheatsheaf to me wadey near to the Mecca

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it was the Wheatsheaf n owd Thwaites house, used to sup in, have a great tale about that, but sure aint fer general consumption.:D;)

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Sorry to disagree with Jaysay and Cashman but that is the Dunn Horse.

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Dunn Horse was on opposite side Roy n sure twas not a Thwaites house?:confused:

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Sorry again Cashy, The Wheatsheaf was on the same side. If you look at the photo, near the traffic lights is the sign for the wheatsheaf. The Dunn Horse was a Thwaites house as was the Wheatsheaf.

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Definately the Dunn Horse, wheatsheaf on the other corner, last time I was around there it's name had been changed to the stage door.

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cheers fer straightening it up roy, yer correct, can see Wheatsheaf as yeh said in the pic,twas on corner of the street with blackburn mecca around corner. can remember going straight in yon when i was thrown out the mecca.:D;)

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Thanks everybody, looking at some older photos The Stage Door was def The Wheatsheaf as you can see it cast into the beam on the side elevation

"The Stage Door " (Pub) 23 Mincing Lane, Blackburn, Lancashire, BB2 2EB | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Dunn Horse wasn't on a corner

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Wrong John, it was.

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Was thinking of the Old Bank

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The Old Bank was on the corner of Mincing Lane and King Street.
The Dunn was on the corner of Market St Lane and Mincing Lane.
The Wheatsheaf was on the corner of St Peter St and Mincing Lane.

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When I frequented the Bank (the landlord was a friend) it wasn't on the corner of out it stood on its own:D

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thats correct, yer memorys not as addled as mine roy.:D the pub i was on about on opposite side was the Old Bank i think? which wasn't Thwaites? but was the dunn horse not duttons?:confused:

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"CLITHEROE KATE" (Pub) 6 Mincing Lane, BLACKBURN, BB 2 2EB

"CLITHEROE KATE" (Pub) 6 Mincing Lane, BLACKBURN, BB 2 2EB | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Was this The Dunn Horse ?

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Cancel it was The Old Bank, photo here

Old Bank Hotel, Blackburn - another lost pub

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This is well worth a look

Lost Pubs In Blackburn, Lancashire