Originally Posted by beejay (Post 685544)

No I dont think Nosmo Kings where pre Jay Turner Four. The only connection as I can remember may have been Noel Smith (drummer with the Jay Turner Four) whom I think at one time did play for the Nosmo Kings. The Nosmo Kings if I remember correctly where managed for most of the time by Lennie Herbert from Great Harwood, who regular had them on at the Mercer Hall and can remember them supporting a Lennie Herbert promotion with headliners Nero & The Gladiators. Also the lead singer with the Nosmos(for a long number of years was very pally with the jay Turner Four and I think he did one or two guest spots, so I can see where there maybe a little confusion.

The Vidors became the Dynamites, The Dynamites became the Jay Turner Four, The Jay Turner Four became the James Turner Four and the James Turner Four became Second Time Around. This band spanned (the band spanned over 20 plus years with varying members) but the long term main players where: Gerard Navin (lead) John Tillotson (Bass) Ronnie Green (Rhythm & Vocals) Noel Smith (Drums) Vocalist: The late James Turner, The late Billy Kerr. also: John Turner Drums

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Originally Posted by beejay (Post 685544)

No I dont think Nosmo Kings where pre Jay Turner Four. The only connection as I can remember may have been Noel Smith (drummer with the Jay Turner Four) whom I think at one time did play for the Nosmo Kings. The Nosmo Kings if I remember correctly where managed for most of the time by Lennie Herbert from Great Harwood, who regular had them on at the Mercer Hall and can remember them supporting a Lennie Herbert promotion with headliners Nero & The Gladiators. Also the lead singer with the Nosmos(for a long number of years was very pally with the jay Turner Four and I think he did one or two guest spots, so I can see where there maybe a little confusion.

The Vidors became the Dynamites, The Dynamites became the Jay Turner Four, The Jay Turner Four became the James Turner Four and the James Turner Four became Second Time Around. This band spanned (the band spanned over 20 plus years with varying members) but the long term main players where: Gerard Navin (lead) John Tillotson (Bass) Ronnie Green (Rhythm & Vocals) Noel Smith (Drums) Vocalist: The late James Turner, The late Billy Kerr. also: John Turner Drums

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Originally Posted by miners boy (Post 686837)

Lots of good nights at Con club so Lionel Morton 4 later to become The four pennies i think they had a big hit with Juliet.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 686974)

they actually had 6 chart hits, Juliet being there only No1.:) two more top 20, other3 top 50.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 687193)

Think one of their other top 20 hits was Black Girl, which would have had far more connertations today with that title:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 687269)

correct n another was "I Found Out The Hard Way" which will have connertations to a certain young student someday i reckon.:D

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 687518)

First release as I remember was Do You Want Me To,I may be wrong but I doubt it.
Never made it big but did chart.:theband:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 685589)

I think Lennie Herbert was also a singer with Lennie and the Teen Beats, but not sure, the last I heard Lennie was con sec a the Pop Club and still lives in Ossy

Originally Posted by miners boy (Post 688340)

Was Lennie also a drummer and i think he worked at English Electric

Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 693413)

I believe Lennie Herbert worked as a progress chaser at English Electric. Was certainly there during the 1960/70's. He was also a Special Constable in Accrington for a good many years. Nice chap.