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claytonx 08-09-2011 13:50

Australian Inn
 
Doe's anyone know how the Australian Inn got its name is there a relationship with Accrington somewhere.

Bob Dobson 08-09-2011 16:10

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I don't know the answer, and hope one emerges. At Glasson Dock there was a pub called the Caribou. It got its name from a landlord with Yukon connections, so maybe the first landlord, or someone that the Thwaites family knew, had Aussie connections.Somebody will look at the early census returns for Weir St and tell us when it first appeared. It had a geographical advantage, being so close to Bull Bridge, the very centre of the town at one time.Maybe that Thwaites' were promoting Australian wines. I wonder if there were other pubs in the country so-named.

Eric 08-09-2011 16:58

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 932051)
Doe's anyone know how the Australian Inn got its name is there a relationship with Accrington somewhere.

Maybe it had something to do with the patrons ... me among them, who ended the night "down under" the tables.:confused:

Barrie Yates 08-09-2011 17:04

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932079)
Maybe it had something to do with the patrons ... me among them, who ended the night "down under" the tables.:confused:

In my case it was "up and over" the back wall when the Police came in the front door - too many lads trying to squeeze through the gate at the time:D

Eric 08-09-2011 17:13

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 932081)
In my case it was "up and over" the back wall when the Police came in the front door - too many lads trying to squeeze through the gate at the time:D

Somehow, I don't think we are being all that helpful:rolleyes: ... but those of who remember the Australian, drank to excess, were turfed out of there, are a select group.:alright:

jaysay 08-09-2011 17:43

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932084)
Somehow, I don't think we are being all that helpful:rolleyes: ... but those of who remember the Australian, drank to excess, were turfed out of there, are a select group.:alright:

Ya think I'd be a pointless answer on the TV show, just the once, unlike cashy who was a regular:D

Gremlin 08-09-2011 17:50

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The Australian Inn was situated at Bull Bridge, closing in 1964 after being declared an unsafe structure. Built in 1846 by a returning penal colonist with rubble from an adjacent stone viaduct.

It closed before I moved over to Accrington and I can't remember it at all. I certainly wasn't one of the unruly mob who drank to excess and was turfed out, other pubs maybe but not guilty this time.

Gremlin 09-09-2011 11:47

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An old mate of mine worked for Jack Bradley and he told me that Jack used to pay out the drivers wages in the evening while they were supping in the Australian.

He says it was a regular haunt of the drivers because the garage was just around the corner on Argyle Street.

jaysay 09-09-2011 17:59

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 932242)
An old mate of mine worked for Jack Bradley and he told me that Jack used to pay out the drivers wages in the evening while they were supping in the Australian.

He says it was a regular haunt of the drivers because the garage was just around the corner on Argyle Street.

Jack Bradley, now there was a character;)

Gremlin 09-09-2011 18:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 932318)
Jack Bradley, now there was a character;)

I can't disagree with that jaysay, I met him a few times and he was more than a bit of a rough diamond.

I have heard stories from his drivers about him throwing spanners across the yard at drivers or mechanics if they didn't do as he wanted.

Health and safety and traffic regulations were not in his vocabulary.

jaysay 09-09-2011 18:31

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 932323)
I can't disagree with that jaysay, I met him a few times and he was more than a bit of a rough diamond.

I have heard stories from his drivers about him throwing spanners across the yard at drivers or mechanics if they didn't do as he wanted.

Health and safety and traffic regulations were not in his vocabulary.

Once worked at his offices when I was a Happyrentice, I can still picture him slumped in his office chair, cussing and swearing:)

Gremlin 09-09-2011 18:42

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This little clip should bring back memories then John.

He was looking very smart for the camera that day.

jaysay 09-09-2011 19:09

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 932328)
This little clip should bring back memories then John.

He was looking very smart for the camera that day.

Thats not how I remember him Gremlin:D

cashman 09-09-2011 21:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 932094)
Ya think I'd be a pointless answer on the TV show, just the once, unlike cashy who was a regular:D

yep twas one of me first watering holes, as quite a few on here are aware.:D

Eric 09-09-2011 22:11

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 932368)
yep twas one of me first watering holes, as quite a few on here are aware.:D

:alright:And it was a handy place to go after being bounced out of Joe Morts

cashman 09-09-2011 22:14

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932383)
:alright:And it was a handy place to go after being bounced out of Joe Morts

when i was bounced down Morts steps,twas straight in the Big Crown.:D

Eric 09-09-2011 22:41

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 932387)
when i was bounced down Morts steps,twas straight in the Big Crown.:D


My memory is fading:confused: ... was that a Dutton's house?

cashman 09-09-2011 23:17

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932396)
My memory is fading:confused: ... was that a Dutton's house?

Nah Big Crown was a "Samuel Smiths" house- crap ale but a good boozer.;):D

Eric 10-09-2011 07:23

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 932403)
Nah Big Crown was a "Samuel Smiths" house- crap ale but a good boozer.;):D


Ah ... Sam Smith's ... I think I filed that, along with Massey's, as something not to drink until the after shave is all gone:D

Gremlin 10-09-2011 07:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 932333)
Thats not how I remember him Gremlin:D

Nor me John but I suppose he had to get smartened up for the lorry advert.

jaysay 10-09-2011 08:25

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 932368)
yep twas one of me first watering holes, as quite a few on here are aware.:D

Ya wasn't that your day care centre, pre-school:D

jaysay 10-09-2011 08:26

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932383)
:alright:And it was a handy place to go after being bounced out of Joe Morts

Ah so you counted the steps too Eric:D

jaysay 10-09-2011 08:28

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 932414)
Ah ... Sam Smith's ... I think I filed that, along with Massey's, as something not to drink until the after shave is all gone:D

Massey's:eek::eek::eek::eek: I wouldn't have washed my feet in that stuff, they used to us it as paint stripper:D

jaysay 10-09-2011 08:29

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 932416)
Nor me John but I suppose he had to get smartened up for the lorry advert.

The picture I have of him is some one carrying a little more weight than that too:rolleyes:

claytonx 10-09-2011 11:58

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Talking of Joe Morts I used to staff there, got in free and a pie at half time, but Tuesday nights and Sunday afternoons we had beginers Iwas 18 and we had to learn ond dance with women in their 40s with large busts ==== very exciting times for a teenager

Gremlin 10-09-2011 18:20

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 932098)
The Australian Inn was situated at Bull Bridge, closing in 1964 after being declared an unsafe structure. Built in 1846 by a returning penal colonist with rubble from an adjacent stone viaduct.

It closed before I moved over to Accrington and I can't remember it at all. I certainly wasn't one of the unruly mob who drank to excess and was turfed out, other pubs maybe but not guilty this time.

I posted the above recently in reply to clayton x, seeing as nobody has corrected it I guess I must have found the answer.

Bob Dobson 10-09-2011 19:18

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I cannot correct it, but want to be convinced of its veracity. Where has the story
originated? It smacks of the stories about tunnels to Whalley Abbey and elsewhere. What viaduct would there be to demolish in 1846?

Gremlin 10-09-2011 19:26

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 932564)
I cannot correct it, but want to be convinced of its veracity. Where has the story
originated? It smacks of the stories about tunnels to Whalley Abbey and elsewhere. What viaduct would there be to demolish in 1846?

Sorry Bob, I found the details on an Historical web site but try as I may I cannot get back to it via Google.
It doesn't say much more than what I have copied and pasted.
Fingers crossed somebody will come up with more information.

Tealeaf 11-09-2011 08:05

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I suspect a little confusion here. This is the only reference I can find to a viaduct:

Australian Inn, Accrington - another lost pub

My guess is the date is slightly out and the viaduct in question is none other than the railway viaduct and the rubble is what was left after construction. Or alternatively, our ex-penal colonist was an early ***** (previous word censored - substitute 'traveller') - who reverted to type and nicked the material off the viaduct site as it was being constructed in order to build his house of inebriation.

I wonder if he subsequently went into further property development and built Melbourne St, Sydney St and Adelaide St? There's definatly a surplus of Aussie linked names around central Accy.

Bob Dobson 12-09-2011 08:01

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Owd on. I am already having trouble finding out why Foster St was so called. The pub being built in 1846 would co-incide with the viaduct being built ( the stone plaque on it says 1848). If only Thwaites' would put their old papers into the Lancashire Archive and not be defensive when asked for information such as 'when was this pub opened'

JEFF 12-09-2011 10:24

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Should be a picture here

Lancashire Lantern | Word Search | Gallery

mobertol 12-09-2011 11:26

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 932623)

I wonder if he subsequently went into further property development and built Melbourne St, Sydney St and Adelaide St? There's definatly a surplus of Aussie linked names around central Accy.

I've always wondered why the Streets off Atlas Street in Church were named after Ozzy Towns and Cities - Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Adelaide there too....

mobertol 12-09-2011 11:31

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Originally Posted by JEFF (Post 932914)

Interesting link that one -have enjoyed looking at some old photos of Accrington!:)

cashman 12-09-2011 11:52

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brilliant link jeff, picture 197 on what comes up when yeh put Australian inn in search,is a cracker of me owd boozer.:D

Gremlin 12-09-2011 14:50

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I am still struggling to place the Australian Inn on the map.

Even after the photo I can't seem to make it out.
I know it was some where near Bull Bridge, was it on the left of Castle Street going down?

I remember the Chapel at the top of Castle street and the Bull and the Drill Hall at the bottom.
What is there now the pub has gone?

Bob Dobson 12-09-2011 14:59

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Before the town got messed up with demolitions and re-building, you would go the the bopttom of Castloe Street and turn left as if to go up Kenyon St to the Methodist Chapel at the corner wioth Whalley Rd. It wass more or less opposite the weir inh the river before it entered the tunnel under bridge. You could see the Bull pub from the front door of the Australian. Somewhere at the back of it, Woodward's kept their flitting van. Technically, the Australian was in Weir St.

Eric 12-09-2011 17:01

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 932924)
brilliant link jeff, picture 197 on what comes up when yeh put Australian inn in search,is a cracker of me owd boozer.:D

You missed the "s" off "boozers";)

Gremlin 12-09-2011 18:48

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Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 932959)
Before the town got messed up with demolitions and re-building, you would go the the bopttom of Castloe Street and turn left as if to go up Kenyon St to the Methodist Chapel at the corner wioth Whalley Rd. It wass more or less opposite the weir inh the river before it entered the tunnel under bridge. You could see the Bull pub from the front door of the Australian. Somewhere at the back of it, Woodward's kept their flitting van. Technically, the Australian was in Weir St.

Thanks Bob, I think it would have been behind what is now a vets practice, am I right. The vets address is Kenyon street.

cashman 12-09-2011 19:18

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bit lower down than that gremlin, go down Eastgate about the bottom corner of the tax office n it was just across the road, gable was bottom of castle st(now eastgate) n pub front was on what they called the "Pleck" weir st i think that was, which went up to Whalley Rd by the Methodist Church.;)

Alan Gilmartin 13-09-2011 05:53

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Atlas street, is in Clayton, not Church, with all the Aussie streets leading off,

mobertol 14-09-2011 11:49

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Originally Posted by Alan Gilmartin (Post 933120)
Atlas street, is in Clayton, not Church, with all the Aussie streets leading off,

Sorry, you're quite right it's just over the border:D, Atlas Street runs down
off Church Lane which is the continuation af Dill Hall Lane...

Mog 21-11-2011 12:47

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 932051)
Doe's anyone know how the Australian Inn got its name is there a relationship with Accrington somewhere.

Does anybody know the name of the last landlord of this pub.

cashman 21-11-2011 14:29

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Originally Posted by Mog (Post 950327)
Does anybody know the name of the last landlord of this pub.

Can't remember Mog, but his wife was called Helen, who i saw about 5 yrs ago,:)

Mog 23-11-2011 12:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 950355)
Can't remember Mog, but his wife was called Helen, who i saw about 5 yrs ago,:)

The reason why I asked is because in about 1964 my mates were Bob Burnside and Gerald Moores. At this time Geralds dad had the Australian. Now I dont know if he had it just before it closed, but when he had a good night he used to treat us to a Chinese ( I think) at a place on Blackburn road inbetween Morts and The Railway. ( I think again). Memory aints so good now. Must have a touch of oldtimers.

cashman 23-11-2011 13:27

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Originally Posted by Mog (Post 951013)
The reason why I asked is because in about 1964 my mates were Bob Burnside and Gerald Moores. At this time Geralds dad had the Australian. Now I dont know if he had it just before it closed, but when he had a good night he used to treat us to a Chinese ( I think) at a place on Blackburn road inbetween Morts and The Railway. ( I think again). Memory aints so good now. Must have a touch of oldtimers.

Yeh Gerald was the son,used to play football wi him on Broadway Carpark after school, n his dad used to give us a gill in back of pub after, hes living down church way last i heard.:) that would be 61/62 i think.

MargaretR 23-11-2011 14:05

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Gerry Moores was my next door neighbour in Church - PM sent to Mog

Retlaw 23-11-2011 15:05

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I wonder if he subsequently went into further property development and built Melbourne St, Sydney St and Adelaide St? There's definatly a surplus of Aussie linked names around central Accy.[/quote]
Adeliade St, off Abbey St, Accrington was originally called Swan St, its supposed to have been renamed Adelaide St, for Princess Adelaide, a member of the Royal family.
Retlaw.

Eric 23-11-2011 16:34

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 951035)
I wonder if he subsequently went into further property development and built Melbourne St, Sydney St and Adelaide St? There's definatly a surplus of Aussie linked names around central Accy.

Adeliade St, off Abbey St, Accrington was originally called Swan St, its supposed to have been renamed Adelaide St, for Princess Adelaide, a member of the Royal family.
Retlaw.[/quote]

More likely Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen, Queen Consort of William lV ... there are likely Adelaide Streets all over the old Empah ... We have one in Kingston, and one of the student residences at Queen's University is named after her.

susie123 23-11-2011 17:38

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 951049)
More likely Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen, Queen Consort of William lV ... there are likely Adelaide Streets all over the old Empah ... We have one in Kingston, and one of the student residences at Queen's University is named after her.

Beat me to it Eric. And wouldn't the Aussie city be named after her as well?

cashman 08-06-2012 07:40

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Wonder when the houses @ The grain merchants on jeffs photo were demolished? I can't remember em standing.:confused:


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