Harry Boyle Cup
 

Is there anyone who can remember the Harry Boyle Cup played for with the local schools football teams from Oswaldtwistle,Rishton,Clayton-le-Moors Gt Harwood.

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If you struggle with the origin of this cup - I don't know who Harry was - give a ring to the Football Museum, which still has offices at the Preston site even though the museum itself is in Manchester now. Speak to Peter Holme, researcher. Top man. Please post the result.

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Anyone know them.

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Can only think that the team was from your neck of the woods claytonx

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I think you could be on to something there and after the pm I sent you I bet you could use your powers of deduction and recognise one.

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Looking at the dates claytonx don't think I know many of those pictured I was only two when that was taken

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Could the goalie Bryan Mercer be a typo for Bryon Mercer of the Accy furniture place. According to the www he died in 2008 on a cruise ship in Limassol, aged 75, which would make him born in 1933 so about the right age.

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Read the name on the PM and look again

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Susie, were did you get your information from

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Another idea: Ask the Lancashire FA, which is based at Leyland.

Ask Accrington Library Local Studies if they have any cuttings or other notes on him.


Mr Howson, who sent the photo in, died about 2 yrs ago. His wife still lives in Willows Lane.

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Thanks I will, Dennis was my best man and I was visiting Eve just last Friday.

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I googled Bryon Mercer Accrington and this came up. Notice the Accy Obs can't get the name right either - that should be a sacking offence! There's a good photo for comparison and it does say he went to Mount Pleasant and was a goalie. One down, ten to go!

Sorry didn't post this info earlier as I hadn't clicked on the google link which just mentioned his death.

http://menmedia.co.uk/accringtonobse...6_byron_mercer

Byron Mercer

October 27, 2008
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/296.$plit/C...A11%3A03%3A195

DIY and electrical goods shop owner Mr Bryon Mercer has died on an Ocean Village cruise in Limassol, Cyprus, at the age of 75.
Mr Mercer, of Spring Gardens, Sefton Farm, Clayton-le-Moors, began his career as an apprentice joiner with the Co-op. In 1966 he started his own joinery business, doing a lot of work for local authorities.
He later moved into DIY and electrical goods and had shops in Clayton-le-Moors, Accrington, Blackburn, Clitheroe and Great Harwood, which we ran with his son Paul. His business grew to include the sale of kitchens, bedrooms and bathrooms.
He was a member and one-time captain of Accrington Golf Club and also Clitheroe Golf Club. He loved travelling with his wife Lynda and going to the theatre, especially to watch his actress daughter Samantha.
More recently, he became a member of the Grange Bowling Club, Clayton-le-Moors.
He also had an interest in creative writing and had just finished his first full-length fictional novel entitled Frozen in Crime.
A great character who enjoyed life to the full, he was a Blackburn Rovers fan, having been a goalkeeper as a young man. He also used to box in Clayton-le-Moors.
Mr Mercer, who had lived in Clayton all his life, attended Mount Pleasant School in the town where he won the Victor Ludorum.
He leaves his wife, son and daughter.
He was due to be cremated at Accrington on Friday 24 October following a service conducted by Father Roger Parker.
Arrangements: Hyndburn Funeral Services.

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Here's another one, about the right age.

Frank Drinkwater | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

Frank Drinkwater

July 22, 2005
http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/265.$plit/C...A26%3A25%3A664

CRICKETER and former football referee Mr Frank Drinkwater has died in Queen's Park Hospital, Blackburn, aged 71.
Mr Drinkwater, of Hawksworth Road, Accrington, left school at 15 to work at Bracewells, going on to do National Service at the age of 18.
He then worked at Carborundum and Allspeeds before fulfilling a lifelong ambition to become a partner in his own business - Accrington Grinding Co - until he retired at 59 for health reasons.
A keen sportsman, he played his first game of cricket for Enfield at the age of 13 and continued with the club for 30 years.
He played for the first team, captained the second team for nine years and went on to coach the first and second teams and juniors.
During this time Enfield won the Worsley Cup in 1989 and 1991.
He also served as chairman of the selectors' committee and part-time groundsman. He was an active lifelong member of Enfield's social club, often acting as compere.
As well as his lifelong passion for cricket, he supported Accrington Stanley and Burnley football clubs.
In his younger days he played football for many local teams, later refereeing in the Accrington Combination and West Lancashire League.
His refereeing claim to fame was that he was a linesman at a Burnley v West Brom game in the early 1970s.
He also enjoyed betting on the horses and gardening, and spent several holidays in Ireland, which he grew to love.
Brother of the late Alan, he leaves his partner Christine, children Susan, Paula, Christine, Kath, Steven, Helen and Mark, brother Stan and 10 grandchildren.
A funeral service led by humanist minister Carole Truman was held at Accrington Crematorium yesterday.
Arrangements: Hyndburn Funeral Services.

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Just noticed the obit also mentions the late Alan who is also in the photo.

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There was a Harry Abbott played cricket for Enfield 1953-58 The Home of CricketArchive

Also a Harry Abbott died 2010

Harry Abbott : Death - MEN Family Notices - MEN Media Network

HARRY ABBOTT A dearly loved Husband, Father and Grandfather, after a long illness, passed away suddenly on February 8 2010. Loved and missed by all who knew him. A private cremation service took place on Thursday February 18 at Accrington Crematorium. Donations in memory of Harry, if so desired, may be made to The Chemo Unit, Royal Blackburn Hospital c/o Hyndburn Funeral Services Queens Road, Accrington. All further enquiries Tel 01254 233133

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Finally found one who might still be alive. This is a comment on an obit of someone who was born in 1935. There appear to be two email addresses which might be useful.

http://menmedia.co.uk/accringtonobserver/life_and_style/announcements/s/1344965_jack_addison

roy [email protected] (09/10/2010 at 13:43)
I have known Jack from when we were both 12 years old, and when his family moved from Huncoat to Clayton le Moors.A few of us were playing cricket on some spare ground off Earl St he asked to join in and from that day we have been friends,in fact I regarded him as my best friend,We spent our teenage and early life together,and have remined friends all these years.I will miss our chats on sorting the worlds problems out,and remembering all those days from the past. Most of all I will miss him.

Roy Smethurst
[email protected]

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Susie, you are getting closer and closer.

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Lancashire Schools Football Association - History

The Nineteenth Century and Early Years of the Twentieth Century - Pioneers
Schools’ football was played in Liverpool and probably in other areas of the county in the seventies of this century. Definitive records, however, indicate that Aigburth National School won the senior football competition in 1893. The Harry Boyle Cup, presented by a local business- man in 1897 for Blackburn schools, remains probably the oldest trophy still contested for to this day. The first semi-finals and final were played at Ewood Park. The Alderman Ord Cup, presented to Preston SFA in 1906, is the closest contestant within the present Lancashire and since that date is traditionally played at Deepdale. Both competitions are keenly contested to this day with Blackburn and Preston records showing a fine pedigree of winners.

Lancashire Schools Football Association - History

Poassibly this was the businessman who donated the cup?

Harry Boyle



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Creator: Blackburn Weekly Telegraph Date: Location: Blackburn Town Centre,Blackburn Document Type:Newspaper Description: Advertisement for Harry Boyle Ltd. Text reads- For the holidays. Smart, stylish and durable. Ready for wear. 21/6 27/6 Trousers, ready for wear, 5/11 Harry Boyle Ltd. 78 to 84, King Street (Just under the clock). Tel 106yClassification No:Identifier:Original Size: Length: 120mm Height: 110mmYou may freely reproduce this content provided you do not do so in the course of a business and state clearly that the content was provided by BwD for use in the Cotton Town digitisation project.

Salford



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Susie, you may be right.I have emailed the football museum at Preston to see if they can find any answeres.Bob Dobson came up with this, let you know if I get any reply.

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I just gathered from your post to Eric on another thread that you are the Roy Smethurst in the photo. Bit annoyed about that, you might have told me or anyone else before we go off looking for these people. But then you do have a habit of starting threads with just a sentence and not providing any other information or opinions.

Anyway good luck with finding out more about the cup. It's funny that there's no more info on the net if it is still being played for today.

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Susie read posts 16 and 17 all the clues were there look at the names under the photo you must have done. Disapointed with an old Accy High School girl.
Thats to get some debate going.

Would you like to smack my-----hand

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Even reading those posts I would not have guessed that you were in the photo, just that your friend was, let alone what your name was.

Anyway I'm glad you are still alive even though you have been playing games with me, and no I won't smack your hand, you'd probably enjoy it. You can do your own research next time.

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My friend who passed on is not in the photo.
Just think of the enjoyment you got searching and belive me I was not intending to play games with you.As you say my posts are a bit short,so I think I will stay with The Joke of The Day.

Hang on sloopy,hang on should be Hang on Susie hang on

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I am confused. The cutting says it was sent in by Mr Dennis Howson,there is a Dennis Howson in the photo, yet you say your friend is not in the photo :confused::confused:

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Susie, you are letting your side down post 17 says Jack which relates to another friend of mine,suprisingley I did have quite a few. That is Jack Addison who passed on October 2010, Dennis Howson left us in 2009 hope that sorts it out for you?

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Yep should have spotted that but then I had forgotten that you were Roy Smethurst.

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May be we will meet on day and I will bring my birth cert

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Hi all, well I have Harry Boyle cup winners medal, it was my fathers he played in goal for All Saints school Clayton I also think I may have a team photo somewhere but I get the impression it was a very prestigous cup to win as the medal is gold so there must have been quite a substantial sponsorship courtesy of Mr. Boyle. Old Saintonian.

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Good to see your post,is there a date on the medal, and if you can find the photo I would like to see it.I am at moment waiting for a reply to an email from Mount Pleaant

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i have got a cup final medal inscribed with harry byle cup final on it its in the shape of a shield with the writing engraved in black, date 1923,anyone know if it is of historic value or worth anything

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Sorry Alan7554 can't help you at the moment but I am trying to find out a bit more on the Harry Boyle Cup. If Bob Dobsons looking I have had a reply from Mount Pleasant school and I think they have come up with the same as Susie did from the internet.I shall be going to Accy library in the next week or two to see if I can find out anything further.

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Hi Alan, I think my fathers' medal is approximately that date, which school was your relation playing for may I ask? I think it is quite valuable to be honest, but probably more so to the family of the person it belongs to. ClaytonX I have no idea whereabouts in the house the photo is, but the medal is in the bank vault with all the other jewellery, next time we get something out I'll have a look, and if the photo pops up I'll attempt to post it onsite, thats' the best I can do 'm afraid. Best wishes all Old Saintonian!!!!!!!

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That's good enough

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my late mums family name was howson, her mum died in 1923 just after my mum was born so may be a connection with howson or my grandad who was called burton who married my grandma howson ok

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Hi - I've got two Harry Boyle cup medals dated 1931 and 1933 which belonged to my Grandfather along with some bigger medals with no inscription on from probably late 1930's or early 1940's. Can anyone fill in any more detail please??

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Sorry JBV can't give you any further information apart from whats on the Web at the moment.
Been to Accrington library,they could not give us any information.

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Thanks Claytonx.
How about Clayton Villa? I have a few photos like these unfortunately the date was removed but I'm guessing they are from the late 1930s.

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Checkimng the Observers in each May would probably help date these and provide some info on the clubs & the Combination league. The National Football Museum may be able to help too. They still have an office in Preston. Send me a PM if you want to contact them. A mate of mine does research for them.

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Might be an idea to put a new post on here asking all the Stanley fans if they know anything about the medal competition

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I emailed Lancashire Schools Football Ass,they came back to me with the information that Harry Boyle presented a cup to Blackburn Schools FA in 1897 it is still competed for today by Blackburn with Darwen schools FA.

He also presented one to schools in the Rishton,Harwood and Accrington district in the 1920s but not sure if it is still contested for today.

Blakey Moor Sec Modern won the Blackburn cup in 1947. with Bryan Douglas in the team.

The person who emailed this was going on holiday,and will be back in touch nearer the end of the month with possibly more information.

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Thanks Bob & claytonx. Any information much appreciated.