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susie123 24-02-2012 12:49

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I found this photo on the website Historic-Images - Accrington

It is titled Accrington Grammar School old boys but it looks like schoolboys to me, though of different ages, not all of one school year.

Can't suggest a date and it looks as though it might have been taken just outside the school. There is a teacher on there some of you might recogise.

Hope it's of interest to some Accywebbers...

MargaretR 24-02-2012 13:15

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Our member, Bob Dobson, organises the Accy Grammar old boy reunions, so I am sure he will post when he sees it.

It find it strange that they are not in uniform - rules were strict - the cap was the most loathed item.

I recall Bob wore his so far back on his head that it looked ready to drop off at any moment (maybe it was glued there with Brylcreem) :D

cashman 24-02-2012 13:22

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Think its about 60/61? if the tall lad back row right end is B.W.? Can't remember if he went G.S.?:confused:

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 14:25

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I'm sure it's AGS 'playground'(all tarmac), I have a school photo taken in the same place with those houses behind.Tremellon Street?
Puzzled why they're dressed like that- we didn't have 'wear anything days',death was the only option if you went dressed like that!
Wearing your hat as far back as you could was the only form of rebellion we dare try-it met the rules but cocked a snoot at the same time.

katex 24-02-2012 14:35

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Actually, they are in uniform.Think at one time they were allowed grey or black jackets. That 'photo is on here somewhere, with that explanation.

Think also, is earlier than the 60's.

Who is B.W., Cashy ?

Wynonie Harris 24-02-2012 14:38

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I'm sure that shot was on the AGSOB site at one time and it was described as late 1940's. Can't find it now though. Think it's Lister Street in the background, Gordon. Certainly, the uniform regulations seem to have been abandoned - maybe they had special dispensation because of rationing etc.

During my time at the school, Ben enforced uniform rules with an iron hand...except towards the end of his regime, when he seemed to get a bit demob happy. There's one full school picture from April 1967, just before he retired, where I'm proud to say I'm not wearing one single item of school uniform! ;)

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 14:49

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 972423)
Actually, they are in uniform.Think at one time they were allowed grey or black jackets. That 'photo is on here somewhere, with that explanation.

Think also, is earlier than the 60's.

Who is B.W., Cashy ?

I left in 59 and you certainly couldn't dress like that then-grey jackets, no tie!!
Sam Wignall would have worn a cane out on that sloppy lot.

Wynonie Harris 24-02-2012 14:56

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The person who really laid down the law on uniform regulations was Ben's successor - Ralph Bailey who inspected every last detail of your appearance and dealt with offenders in a brisk fashion! The number of arguments I had with him about the length of my sideburns!

cashman 24-02-2012 15:03

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Third from end back right, looks like R.M.? Both the 2 i think were in me class at St Johns, Yet another the late Brian Bishop aint on the photo?:confused:

maxthecollie 24-02-2012 15:05

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Looks like a young". Big Jim Hanrahan" at the back . Before my time at Accy Grammar

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 15:07

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cashman, who were RM and BW? That might help us place the year-Bob Dobson will probably know.

Wynonie Harris 24-02-2012 15:18

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Must be pre-1954-ish. Can't be 60's, as the uniforms/non-uniforms and hair are all wrong, can't be mid late-50's, as there are no Elvis quiffs. I'll take a guess at 1948!

MargaretR 24-02-2012 15:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 972435)
Must be pre-1954-ish. Can't be 60's, as the uniforms/non-uniforms and hair are all wrong, can't be mid late-50's, as there are no Elvis quiffs. I'll take a guess at 1948!

That's before the era of me and Bob - we need members here to identify their fathers!

Balbus 24-02-2012 15:40

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Looks like a young". Big Jim Hanrahan" at the back . Before my time at Accy Grammar

Definitely Big Jim Hanrahan.

Jim Procter 24-02-2012 17:23

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Definitely after my time 1941-1945 !!!!!!

cashman 24-02-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 972430)
cashman, who were RM and BW? That might help us place the year-Bob Dobson will probably know.

If it was those 2,Gordon i said the year i thought. Though could be early as 59, But not before that, if it is em. I never name people,if i aint sure if they would mind.

jaysay 24-02-2012 18:39

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 972484)
If it was those 2,Gordon i said the year i thought. Though could be early as 59, But not before that, if it is em. I never name people,if i aint sure if they would mind.

How the hell da ya know about Grammar School thought your school was approved:rolleyes:;):D

TubbyLes 24-02-2012 18:45

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I was there 1950-1957 and don't recognize anyone except the teacher Jim Hanrahan and he looks young,so my estimate is 1945-1947.

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 18:47

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If this works(???) this is between late 58 up to summer 59 . Sixth form AGS.
Recognise any of them? Didn't we look smart in our hated uniforms? Wouldn't dress like that on Saturday night.

jaysay 24-02-2012 18:51

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 972501)
If this works(???) this is between late 58 up to summer 59 . Sixth form AGS.
Recognise any of them?

Ya Gordon all suited and booted there mate:D

MargaretR 24-02-2012 18:54

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 972501)
If this works(???) this is between late 58 up to summer 59 . Sixth form AGS.
Recognise any of them? Didn't we look smart in our hated uniforms? Wouldn't dress like that on Saturday night.

I recognise two on that photo - 2nd and 3rd from left of the front row standing are Ian and Peter.(2 Ossy lads)

Peter was a dish! I do know his last name but don't put it here... B*t**r
I sometimes wonder what happened to him.

jaysay 24-02-2012 19:00

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 972504)
I recognise two on that photo - 2nd and 3rd from left of the front row standing are Ian and Peter.(2 Ossy lads)

Peter was a dish! I do know his last name but don't put it here... B*t**r
I sometimes wonder what happened to him.

Hell that were hard to suss out Margaret:D

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 19:09

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I'm surprised you don't recognise me, Margaret,I spent enough lunchtimes leering through the High School fence!
One or two more Ossy boys on there as well.

MargaretR 24-02-2012 19:25

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I'm surprised you don't recognise me, Margaret,I spent enough lunchtimes leering through the High School fence!
One or two more Ossy boys on there as well.

The lad on the back row far right is a familiar face but I can't put a name to it.
Which is you Gordon?

PS - me at sweet sixteen - i don't have funny earlobes - white plastic earrings

Gordon Booth 24-02-2012 20:04

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 972520)
The lad on the back row far right is a familiar face but I can't put a name to it.
Which is you Gordon?

PS - me at sweet sixteen - i don't have funny earlobes - white plastic earrings

Far left hand side of picture, back row,Margaret.
Good photo of you, don't recognise you but if you have one dressed in your rounders outfit I just might remember!
Back to susies picture, Jim Proctor says after 1945. I wonder if during and just after the war you didn't need/couldn't get school uniforms?
We need Bob!

susie123 24-02-2012 21:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 972407)
Think its about 60/61? if the tall lad back row right end is B.W.? Can't remember if he went G.S.?:confused:

Think Cashy's estimate of the year is about right, I vaguely recognise one of the boys and he would have been at AGS about then.

There seems to be a mix of ages in the photo - I wonder if they had been away from school on a trip and hence were allowed to wear mufti?

The teacher however appears to be wearing a gown. What was his subject - that might give us a clue.

maxthecollie 24-02-2012 21:23

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Big Jim taught Latin

susie123 24-02-2012 21:26

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 972540)
Big Jim taught Latin

So they wouldn't have been on a sports jolly then... Hadrian's Wall more like :o:p

cashman 24-02-2012 22:14

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Think Cashy's estimate of the year is about right, I vaguely recognise one of the boys and he would have been at AGS about then.

There seems to be a mix of ages in the photo - I wonder if they had been away from school on a trip and hence were allowed to wear mufti?

The teacher however appears to be wearing a gown. What was his subject - that might give us a clue.

Have sent a message via Friends Utd, to one of the guys who i think it is, Hopefully he will have a sneck when/if he sees it.

Michael1954 24-02-2012 22:28

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[QUOTE=Wynonie Harris;972424]I'm sure that shot was on the AGSOB site at one time and it was described as late 1940's. Can't find it now though. Think it's Lister Street in the background, Gordon. Certainly, the uniform regulations seem to have been abandoned - maybe they had special dispensation because of rationing etc.

During my time at the school, Ben enforced uniform rules with an iron hand...except towards the end of his regime, when he seemed to get a bit demob happy. There's one full school picture from April 1967, just before he retired, where I'm proud to say I'm not wearing one single item of school uniform! ;)[/QUOTE

Here is the photo. I will let you own up to which one is you, Steve!

Michael1954 24-02-2012 22:59

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This is me, centre of the photo, age 13.

Michael1954 24-02-2012 23:08

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Wynonie Harris 25-02-2012 09:26

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Cheers, Michael. Top row, seventh from left, black tie, hornrimmed glasses, stupid grin! ;)

Gordon Booth 25-02-2012 09:29

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Susie may be right-school uniform generally even in 1967,so were they pictured before or after a trip? The open necked shirts with big collars should give a clue, I'm guessing the sixties.Garinda is the fashion guru, perhaps he can date it?

Wynonie Harris 25-02-2012 09:35

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 972626)
Susie may be right-school uniform generally even in 1967,so were they pictured before or after a trip? The open necked shirts with big collars should give a clue, I'm guessing the sixties.Garinda is the fashion guru, perhaps he can date it?

Hair too short for 1960's, even under Ben's draconian regime and jacket styles all wrong...and if Big Jim looked like that in the '60's, he must have discovered the exilir of eternal youth! 1940's, believe me!

garinda 25-02-2012 10:05

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 972626)
Susie may be right-school uniform generally even in 1967,so were they pictured before or after a trip? The open necked shirts with big collars should give a clue, I'm guessing the sixties.Garinda is the fashion guru, perhaps he can date it?

It's harder to date mens'/boys' clothes, as they don't change in style, as often as womens'.

Going off the shirt collars, and haircuts, I'd hazard a guess at between 1948-52.

Barrie Yates 25-02-2012 13:56

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I reckon pre-1950 Don't actually remember any class photographs being taken, only the panoramic whole school ones.
There was definitely only one colour blazer in the period '50-'55 - black with red piping

Bob Dobson 12-03-2012 20:05

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My broadband has been down for a couplew of weeks, so I have not looked at Accyweb. I've missed this great thread./
The first photo was taken end of term 1949 - Big Jim Hanrahan's class with Lister St ijhn the background. This was the last year before the new uniform was introduced. I think that a letter 'A' can be detected on one lad's jacket.
The other photo, with Gordon Booth top left is 1959. Colin Sellers (RIP) is back top right. Peter Butler is centreish. I cannot trace him but think he may live in Bury area.
At the Old Boys events now, the president wears a prefect's cap from this period, and last year's president wears a cap as worn then by everyone else. I cannot help with the 1967 photo. Not wearing a cap brought a detention.

Wynonie Harris 12-03-2012 20:31

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I'll take a guess at 1948!

One year out!

kestrelx 12-03-2012 20:33

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 972565)
This is me, centre of the photo, age 13.

What at Accrington Grammar School?

Michael1954 12-03-2012 21:00

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977332)
What at Accrington Grammar School?

Yes. Your brother is in the full 1967 photograph.

garinda 12-03-2012 21:40

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One year out!

I widened my goal, to '48 - '52.

So I could boot it right into the corner of the net.

:D

katex 12-03-2012 21:50

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One year out!

You bin listening to Ken Bruce, Wynonie ? :D x

Wynonie Harris 13-03-2012 19:04

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You bin listening to Ken Bruce, Wynonie ? :D x

Pardon my ignorance, Kate, but who's Ken Bruce?

katex 13-03-2012 21:25

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Pardon my ignorance, Kate, but who's Ken Bruce?

Hahaha, Wynonie. Ken Bruce is a Radio 2 presenter and runs this pop quiz. Usually, there is a question whereby he asks the contestants what year were these tunes in the charts.

It's amazing how many are just out by a year and Ken says this: "One Year Out !" Become quite a catchphrase.

Wynonie Harris 13-03-2012 21:35

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Hahaha, Wynonie. Ken Bruce is a Radio 2 presenter and runs this pop quiz. Usually, there is a question whereby he asks the contestants what year were these tunes in the charts.

It's amazing how many are just out by a year and Ken says this: "One Year Out !" Become quite a catchphrase.

Right, cheers, Kate, thought perhaps he was an AGS Old Boy!

jaysay 14-03-2012 09:18

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Pardon my ignorance, Kate, but who's Ken Bruce?

Could Be Steve Bruce's brother Wyn:rolleyes::D

talentedbutslow 16-03-2012 18:58

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http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...967_7_of_8.jpgOY LADDIES........wheres your caps?

Gordon Booth 16-03-2012 19:09

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OY LADDIES........wheres your caps?

Good photo, tbs, any idea what year? The hair styles should give a clue, mid sixties?

cashman 16-03-2012 19:26

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Good photo, tbs, any idea what year? The hair styles should give a clue, mid sixties?

I thought late 50s?:confused:

katex 16-03-2012 19:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 978297)
I thought late 50s?:confused:

No, Cashy .. I have '53 and '57 on file .. neither of those. Would be at the earliest '61.

Bob Dobson 16-03-2012 19:38

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I can't help - after my time.I'll go for 61., It would help if we could see the staff. We left Blackburn Rd in 68.

Gordon Booth 16-03-2012 19:41

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I thought late 50s?:confused:

Some of the styles remind me of the 'Beatle cut', cashman, that's why I think 60's. If you look at the photo I posted which was 58/59, there's no-one with that style, in fact I think we'd have died before we had a hair cut like that-a sort of 'basin cut', reminds me of the 40's when we couldn't afford the barbers.

susie123 16-03-2012 19:44

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It's 1967 - see post 30

Gordon Booth 16-03-2012 19:49

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Well spotted susie, I hadn't realised it was the same photo!

susie123 16-03-2012 19:56

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Well spotted susie, I hadn't realised it was the same photo!

Good job I have a photographic memory!

Wynonie Harris 16-03-2012 20:10

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It's April, 1967 to be precise. I'm top row, seventh from left with horned rimmed specs and cheesy grin...and who do we have top row, third from right? Why, it's none other than Councillor Peter Britcliffe!

Gordon Booth 16-03-2012 21:15

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Hastily checks haircut of boy on top row, seventh from left!
No basin cut. Thank heavens.

MargaretR 16-03-2012 21:26

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I didn't recognise anyone.
I was 25 in 1967 and hadn't developed a taste for toyboys;)

I did notice that boy you say was PB - just thought he looked a bit of a bully.

Michael1954 16-03-2012 21:51

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Michael1954 16-03-2012 21:58

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Michael1954 16-03-2012 21:59

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Michael1954 16-03-2012 22:01

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Michael1954 16-03-2012 22:02

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Michael1954 16-03-2012 22:04

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Photo 7 has already been uploaded, so all 8 photos together make up the complete April 1967 school photo.

Michael1954 16-03-2012 22:11

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I am in photo 5. See post 31 for a close-up.

Michael1954 16-03-2012 22:19

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Kestrelx's brother is in one of these photos. I won't point him out though unless K wants me to.

maxthecollie 17-03-2012 12:41

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2 years after I left

Gordon Booth 17-03-2012 14:46

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 978299)
No, Cashy .. I have '53 and '57 on file .. neither of those. Would be at the earliest '61.

Katex, could you post the '53 and '57 photos please? It would be interesting to see who we recognise and Bob would probably love to add them to his collection.


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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 978358)
I didn't recognise anyone.
I was 25 in 1967 and hadn't developed a taste for toyboys;)

So, MargaretR, how old were you when you did 'developed a taste for toyboys'?


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