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I remember as a child going to the corner shop to get a sliced loaf.

It was a new thing, probably the start of this consumer society we live in.

They always came in waxed paper, the names of various Companies breads no doubt are plenty.

We go to the supermarkets today and most for this area sell Warburtons or Rathbones.

I enjoy both.

Anyone remember though in the late 70's early 80's?

We seemed to switch to plastic bags with either a little twist thing similar to a pipe cleaner, or else a plastic tag.

Both meant to keep the bread fresh.

Neither worked, the bread always seemed to sweat in the packet, if mold didn't get it then you always had dry uninviting bread the following day.

What seems to be back on the shelves these days?

Bread, still sliced, but in waxed paper, why? because that is still one of the best ways for us to keep our staple diet on the shelf, no matter how we slice it.

After all, we take a couple of slices, push the paper down and it stays there not like a poly bag.
:)

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I'd not noticed this really, I hardly ever buy bread-but come to think of it now yes you're right!

Green/recycling reasons maybe?
It looks a lot nicer. Chuff knows what they put in bread that stays 'fresh'for long periods of time, anyway!

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yeh what do they put in bread for it to last so long?

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I've never researched what it is exactly because I avoid eating bread so haven't needed to but I imagine stabilising chemicals and emulsifiers to stop the crystallisation ?
They may not be all that bad for you, I don't know. Still bit wary of it though! If I do buy it I just freeze some of it and/or keep it in the 'fridge.

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Bread never used to last as long as it does now

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Yer right, but i hadn't noticed.:D

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Calcium propionate to stop fungal growth.

What Is Calcium Propionate? (with picture)

Ever heard of the Chorleywood process? You might not want to eat a white sliced again...

The shocking truth about bread - Features - Food & Drink - The Independent

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Lasts less than a day in my house, greedy gannets:o

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Have to love the wisegeek website :)

The CWP term is familiar but I'd never researched it.

As for white sliced-not touched that trash since I was about 10!One may as well eat a bowl of sugar for the good it does lol.

I do eat bread occasionally if I'm away from home but I like to get carbs from sources that have more nutrition in them than most breads do (and bread tends to make me fat quite easily)!

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Waxed bread paper.... it was great for shining up the big slide on King Georges.
You went down like billy-o after that.
Many a ripped pair of school pants to explain away not to mention the gravel rash on your you know what.
;)

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Now I know why the bread I used to make never lasted fresh longer than a day, what gets me is why the so called top bread makers loaves are nearly twice the price of some small bakery's bread. As
for Warburtons & the other top names, the taste has changed in the last 12 months, and doen't last as long in the freezer.

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I hate Warbies bread......it feels like you are eating cotton wool.
I have been getting a batch loaf from Aldi for a long time now(I don't know if it was subject to the Chorleywood process, but it went mouldy fairly rapidly in summer)......I used to buy the wholemeal batch - they stopped making it, replaced it with a multigrain loaf which is awful...so I went over to the white batch loaf...liked it. It was fine for toast(sliced a bit thicker than medium)...Now, that had been discontinued in favour of a White Seeded Batch.......I wouldn't eat so many seeds if I were a damn budgie.......so now, I am on the search for a decent white loaf from which to make my morning toast - and the odd sandwich.
Any recommendations(other than bake it yourself) would be welcome.

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I agree, I hate bread or anything with seeds in it. I've been eating sliced oatmeal bread for a while, there are several makes, can't be any more specific as Richard gets it for me.

Isn't it annoying though when you find something you like and they discontinue it - makes you feel your custom isn't valued when you have to go scrabbling round for a substitute.

I think all mass produced bread is Chorleywood these days - we always keep ours in the fridge.

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I don't like oats at all...in anything. I know they are good for you...keep the cholesterol down and all that....but they don't agree with me......they speed up my digestive processes and make me windy(OK...TMI).

Well, the batch loaf from Aldi was a very open texture...it put me in mind of the bread we used to get years ago from a little bake shop near where we lived.......and it didn't have that annoying tendency of modern bread, where it sticks to the roof of your mouth.......and the crusts were not too hard.

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Tesco's every day value isnt to bad for toast, not as big as a warburtons toastie, but not bad on price and taste

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Oh No Retlaw...that is one I have tried and didn't like it...the texture is too dense for me...and when you toast it it is like cardboard....I know...I'm just too fussy.
I don't eat much bread anyway, so what I do eat...well, I want it to be right.

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At present the birds/ducks/hens are getting well fed.......I buy a loaf and find out it isn't to my taste, so it goes in the bag for the birds/hens.

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Try Oddies in the Arndale Margaret, they will slice it for you get it sliced thick. Lovely bread

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Please don't feed ducks bread it is not good for them.

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I know Neil......lot's of people do feed them bread(on the canal).....I think he gulls eat most of it.

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I get Oddies bread f or Ma, but their slicing machine doesn't really do thick...when you ask for 'thick'...one half is sandwich sliced and the other is (maybe) medium.

At the moment I'm a bit like a sulky kid who can't get their own way...nothing suits me.
I may give up on bread.

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Exactly the first thing I thought of there Mr. D but the swings were over White Ash in my case.:D

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As opposed to gravel rash up King Georges it truly was "ash rash" on the White Ash/Moor End feilds. Must have been an old slag heap at one time with about 10 cm ( half an inch in old money) of turf on top.
Ist year of Accy Tech used to be billeted up there back in the day.

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Aye would it be Mr Ogilvie, up yon? memorys getting crappy.

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Yes that's the feller... first comb over I ever saw ....long before Mrs Charltons lad.;)
Used to see him in the Accy library over the years always had a word or two.
Saw his obit in the Observer a couple of years ago.

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Ya I'm nearly sure it was a tip Mr. D Shopfitters used the playing fields for home matches, after working Saturday morning a few of us went over to walk the pitch to make sure no broken glass had come to the surface, some days we'd end up with half a bucket full.

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Nowt wrong with a bit of timber sugarmouse

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Does nobody bake their own bread?

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I did until recently.
Now I eat so little of it, I don't make the effort.
I buy additive free bread (expensively)

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Muqpauraq is good too ... though it heads straight for the waist and the butt ... best cooked over an open fire out in the bush;)

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I have to disagree here lol

I have baked bread before after being 'donated' a breadmaker but I don't have the patience because I'm not that interested in it. It got 'rehomed' after a few weeks.
My Mother actually called me to let me know she'd baked her own bread for the first time, recently. She asked if I needed any doorstops :)
I can't be much use on a bread thread :)

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odd you say that because recently iv notice warburtons in particular dosnt last more than a day before it starts going stale where as the same bread a few years ago would last quite a few days with just the end tucked over.

unless its poor storage of it by asda i dont know but warurtons just dosnt seem to last as long as it once did.Maybe the paper they are wrappe din isnt all that air tight so it starts going off fast on teh shelf before its even bought

plastic bags are better for bread you can just slap and spin teh bread then tuck the plastic tail underneath teh loaf :D

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You girls and your vanity:)

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It's not vain to want to be fit and healthy :)

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You are of course right sugarmouse. it was a tongue-in-cheek comment, not meant to cause any offence.:)

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How much does it cost Margaret?, I know gluten free bread is quite expensive, is it in the same bracket?

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It's very difficult to offend me :)

I'm not sure on additive free but on the few occasions I have made bread-I got much better results when I made gluten free-it was much easier I found.

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Making gluten free bread is more expensive I would have thought

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I got a bulk order from -
Slow Rise
prices are shown.

The loaves are large - and since I only eat one slice a day at the most, I needed to cut, bag and freeze them.

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Prices seem in line with gluten free bread Margaret, mind you those hot cross buns looked tasty:)

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I used rice flour-which wasn't so expensive I found. It's fairly easy to make your own but I couldn't be bothered :)

I can't remember where I got the recipe from but this one looks very similar;

Simple Gluten Free Bread Recipe

Mine took longer than that though I seem to remember.

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That's the problem with any bread - if you only eat a small amount daily, you have a lot to deal with as finding small loaves that are fit for eating rather than just filling you up isn't easy. No wonder so much gets wasted.

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Ya but that's not gluten free in the true sense of the word SM, its rice bread okay its gluten free all right, the other half uses gluten free flour, mind you she doesn't bake bread these days but she's great with cakes etc., that good I bought her a mixer:D

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Lol there's no pleasing you, is there :p :D

I wonder if it might work with gluten free flour though actually?

I'm a member of the vegan forum-some of the members also live gluten-free. I'll ask-see if I can find something for you whilst I'm at it, I'm curious myself.

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According to this list
Safe Gluten-Free Food List (Safe Ingredients) - Celiac.com
..rice is gluten free.

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Rice is, yes-I may be wrong now you mention it-I got the impression Jaysay was after using wheat flour that had had the gluten removed?

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I well aware rice is gluten free Margaret, I also have Celiac U. K. hand book on my desk, its handy when your other half is area co-ordinate for the Manchester and district branch of Celiac U. K. :rolleyes:

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In the old days - 1950s - you bought your bread fresh daily (except Sundays) from the confectioner's or corner shop. You had a regular order and went and collected it daily. It was "unsliced" and wrapped in white tissue paper with twisted corners. Many of the corner shops had a "Turog" sign high up over the door - not sure what this was!

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Turog was a brand name Judith. Remember it well. Used to collect one most days from the little shop at the bottom of South St back in the day :)

historical bread flour composition | The Fresh Loaf

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Can also remember Veget bread way back n the poem that went wi it.:D

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Just seen from one of Bob Dobsons old posts, it was baked at Bog Height Road in Darwen.
The rude rhyme is then quite apposite Mr C ;)

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Very interesting link Mr. D.