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gdm27 23-06-2013 12:34

Bin Holes.
 
I remember when the bin men had a big key to take the door off and then they would climb in, drag the bin(s) out and then cleaned the rest up with shovels. Most of the rubbish was just fire ash and tins, no recycling in those days. By the early 60's we had nicked all the doors and put them on the bonfire, instant smelly gang hut! :eek:

cashman 23-06-2013 12:39

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Also the bin men had to lift the bins n tip em into the bin wagon (done it meself) now they bitch if the sodding wheely bins to heavy.:rolleyes: H@S gone mad.:rolleyes:

Wynonie Harris 23-06-2013 13:02

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Binmen these days don't know how easy they have it. It's no joke crawling into a filthy, foul-smelling bin 'ole, dragging the bin out as the ash blows into your face, then heaving the whole thing onto your shoulder to tip it in the wagon.

Mind you, there's another side of the coin to the H&S issue. We used to do our round at a very, very brisk pace, chucking any scrap metal we found into the cab. The result was we finished our week's round on Friday lunchtime, then it was up to that place on Back Burnley Road to cash in the scrap and off to the pub for the afternoon to spend our ill-gotten gains, before we were driven back to the yard in a very, er, mellow state. It'd never be allowed these days!

ossy kid 23-06-2013 21:00

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There was no recycling in them days 'cause the newspapers etc were used for lavi rolls, the tins were used with string to communicate, the bottles were used for vases. We were very creative in them days? actually not creative just by necessity.

maxthecollie 23-06-2013 21:03

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The Bin Holes made good dens

cashman 23-06-2013 21:49

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1063948)
Binmen these days don't know how easy they have it. It's no joke crawling into a filthy, foul-smelling bin 'ole, dragging the bin out as the ash blows into your face, then heaving the whole thing onto your shoulder to tip it in the wagon.

Mind you, there's another side of the coin to the H&S issue. We used to do our round at a very, very brisk pace, chucking any scrap metal we found into the cab. The result was we finished our week's round on Friday lunchtime, then it was up to that place on Back Burnley Road to cash in the scrap and off to the pub for the afternoon to spend our ill-gotten gains, before we were driven back to the yard in a very, er, mellow state. It'd never be allowed these days!

That would be Readers Rag Shop, Owd Henry used to kip yon,on a pile of rags,after n evening at the Bug Hut.;)

jaysay 24-06-2013 08:13

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 1063998)
There was no recycling in them days 'cause the newspapers etc were used for lavi rolls, the tins were used with string to communicate, the bottles were used for vases. We were very creative in them days? actually not creative just by necessity.

Ya OK those were the days, remember the Rag and Bone Man, give him a bungle of clothes and he'd give you a donkey stone in return, and when mother was washing in't dolly tub she used a dolly blue, meant to make your whites even white:confused:

gdm27 24-06-2013 14:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064018)
Ya OK those were the days, remember the Rag and Bone Man, give him a bungle of clothes and he'd give you a donkey stone in return, and when mother was washing in't dolly tub she used a dolly blue, meant to make your whites even white:confused:

Can just hear him now "RAG BONE" and the slow sound of the horse walking by!

Shurm 24-06-2013 18:53

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Don't mention Bin Men to me put a bin liner 1/4 full on top of the bin last week and they just threw it on the pavement and left it !!! It's blooming hard work fortnightly collections with a young family.

jaysay 25-06-2013 08:24

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Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1064060)
Don't mention Bin Men to me put a bin liner 1/4 full on top of the bin last week and they just threw it on the pavement and left it !!! It's blooming hard work fortnightly collections with a young family.

We only have plastic bags where I live, wheelie bins are not survivable, the bags are orange with HBC written on them, If we're luck we can get away with three every fortnight, but to stop people off our estate dumping they don't take black bags

MargaretR 25-06-2013 08:43

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The reason why you get to use bags instead of bins is because the residents only car park where you would have put bins is not a 'public highway' and the bin wagon can't go on it.

On the same estate, I have a public highway access and have a wheelie bin.

jaysay 25-06-2013 08:58

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1064098)
The reason why you get to use bags instead of bins is because the residents only car park where you would have put bins is not a 'public highway' and the bin wagon can't go on it.

On the same estate, I have a public highway access and have a wheelie bin.

Wrong again Mags, there's nowhere to put um plain and simple

MargaretR 25-06-2013 09:13

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Sweep Path for Refuse Collection Vehicles - Technical Specifications for Sweep Path for Refuse Collection Vehicles
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"It is also essential that any surface which the collection vehicle crosses or reverses onto is of the same construction standard as the roadway to avoid damage to the road surface and underlying structure."

There look plenty of places where they could be parked - ie gable ends.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Man...127.87,,0,11.3

jaysay 25-06-2013 09:40

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1064102)
Sweep Path for Refuse Collection Vehicles - Technical Specifications for Sweep Path for Refuse Collection Vehicles
extract -
"It is also essential that any surface which the collection vehicle crosses or reverses onto is of the same construction standard as the roadway to avoid damage to the road surface and underlying structure."

There look plenty of places where they could be parked - ie gable ends.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Man...127.87,,0,11.3

Well there again I consulted a human being and not a computer link about the reason for no wheelie bins, but of course I'll submit to great intelligence who is never wrong and is all hearing and seeing;)

Aussie Irene 25-06-2013 10:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064018)
Ya OK those were the days, remember the Rag and Bone Man, give him a bungle of clothes and he'd give you a donkey stone in return, and when mother was washing in't dolly tub she used a dolly blue, meant to make your whites even white:confused:

or maybe a gold fish swimming in a plastic bag if you gave him enough rags

MargaretR 25-06-2013 11:20

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I recall the fish were in jam jars.

The plastic bags were not in use until 1950.

When were plastic bags invented

..but no doubt rag men used them for that when they became available

Less 25-06-2013 12:23

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Going back just a touch further, my dad growing up in the 30's told tales of the rag man giving you a day old chick for your rags, back then it seems everyone kept hens in the backyard.

jaysay 25-06-2013 17:14

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1064116)
Going back just a touch further, my dad growing up in the 30's told tales of the rag man giving you a day old chick for your rags, back then it seems everyone kept hens in the backyard.

When you look back to your youth, there's no comparison with how youngster grow up today, they walk round all day with a mobile stuck to their fingers texting, usually texting their mates who are stood next to um:D

gdm27 26-06-2013 19:41

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Ok does anybody know when they did away with bin oles and how did they go about it??? :confused::confused::confused:

Retlaw 26-06-2013 21:06

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1064205)
Ok does anybody know when they did away with bin oles and how did they go about it??? :confused::confused::confused:

All I remember is that they bought a fleet of wagons that were too big to get downthe back street, they then started issuing black bags, then wheely bins appeared, can't remember the exact year, but it could be over ten years.

Eric 27-06-2013 01:51

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 1063998)
There was no recycling in them days 'cause the newspapers etc were used for lavi rolls, the tins were used with string to communicate, the bottles were used for vases. We were very creative in them days? actually not creative just by necessity.

And the jam jars for lanterns ... a bit of string for the handle and a candle stub, and you were in business.:D

jaysay 27-06-2013 07:43

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1064205)
Ok does anybody know when they did away with bin oles and how did they go about it??? :confused::confused::confused:

they had virtually stopped using when I was a lad, can't remember us every using one can't remember even having one, the bin men used to come in the back yard and take ours out then leave them at the back door when empty

jaysay 27-06-2013 07:45

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1064214)
All I remember is that they bought a fleet of wagons that were too big to get downthe back street, they then started issuing black bags, then wheely bins appeared, can't remember the exact year, but it could be over ten years.

Black bags were quite a new arrival Retlaw late 80s early 90s, I'm sure Bernard will have a better idea on dates than me, but they were introduce after I returned to Ossy in 1986

cashman 27-06-2013 08:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064238)
they had virtually stopped using when I was a lad, can't remember us every using one can't remember even having one, the bin men used to come in the back yard and take ours out then leave them at the back door when empty

Well you lot musta been posh were yeh lived,They still used me nans when i was a lad, They used a metal key, which they put in centre of bin door to get it off.:)

jaysay 27-06-2013 08:36

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1064250)
Well you lot musta been posh were yeh lived,They still used me nans when i was a lad, They used a metal key, which they put in centre of bin door to get it off.:)

I think when I was very young my dad built a new coal shed and did away with the bin hole, I know it was built out of Nori and had a concrete roof on, and its still standing today;)

Aussie Irene 27-06-2013 08:54

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1064214)
All I remember is that they bought a fleet of wagons that were too big to get downthe back street, they then started issuing black bags, then wheely bins appeared, can't remember the exact year, but it could be over ten years.

You can see how our garbage is collected by lefthand drive trucks. Because our houses are not terraced but detached you can wheel the bin to the front where it is then picked up in the street. Type in " Australian Garbage Trucks On Youtube". Hope it works

Turtle 27-06-2013 10:44

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I remember The Rag and Bone man and his calling out "Rag'nBone!". (Sounded like a foreign language). Also the Coal man - looked scary all covered in coal dust. I used to feed their horses sugar butties - after I ate my share of course LOL.

jaysay 27-06-2013 17:17

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Originally Posted by Turtle (Post 1064262)
I remember The Rag and Bone man and his calling out "Rag'nBone!". (Sounded like a foreign language). Also the Coal man - looked scary all covered in coal dust. I used to feed their horses sugar butties - after I ate my share of course LOL.

I can remember the 3 day week back in the seventies, I worked on the shop floor at Shopfitters at the time and we were on 3 day 12 hour days, when I wasn't at Shopfitters I helped my mate out who had his own Coal Merchants business, he deliver more coal during the strike than he did in his normal week :D

Wynonie Harris 27-06-2013 17:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064253)
I think when I was very young my dad built a new coal shed and did away with the bin hole, I know it was built out of Nori and had a concrete roof on, and its still standing today;)

I would say you were an exception, mate. When I was working on the bins, '70/'71, the vast majority of terraced houses had bin 'oles. Course that was in Accy, might have been different up Ossy.

cashman 27-06-2013 17:55

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1064323)
I would say you were an exception, mate. When I was working on the bins, '70/'71, the vast majority of terraced houses had bin 'oles. Course that was in Accy, might have been different up Ossy.

Told yeh he was a posh get.:D

jaysay 27-06-2013 17:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1064326)
Told yeh he was a posh get.:D

Just because I cock my little finger when I'm having a brew:D

gdm27 27-06-2013 18:52

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064327)
Just because I cock my little finger when I'm having a brew:D

Pint pot and a cocked finger, he did this at Pilkingtons!!!

gdm27 27-06-2013 18:58

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1064323)
I would say you were an exception, mate. When I was working on the bins, '70/'71, the vast majority of terraced houses had bin 'oles. Course that was in Accy, might have been different up Ossy.

So the question is, what was in the bin'oles (rubbish I know)in the early 70's, did you still use the key? Old metal bins still? Clean the rest out with a shovel? Heck of a job you had then Mr.Harris.

gdm27 27-06-2013 19:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064318)
I can remember the 3 day week back in the seventies, I worked on the shop floor at Shopfitters at the time and we were on 3 day 12 hour days, when I wasn't at Shopfitters I helped my mate out who had his own Coal Merchants business, he deliver more coal during the strike than he did in his normal week :D

Shared bin ole, outside toilet, coal ole. Back in the early 60's we had our coal delivered by the Salmons (sorry can't remember the 1st names) and we could only afford 3 sacks so my Mum who was at work told me to count the bags to make sure it was the right amount, yea right, 8 year old telling a big dirty coalman he has miss-counted!!!! Never happened, we did always get the right amount mind!

Wynonie Harris 27-06-2013 19:58

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1064337)
So the question is, what was in the bin'oles (rubbish I know)in the early 70's, did you still use the key? Old metal bins still? Clean the rest out with a shovel? Heck of a job you had then Mr.Harris.

Yep, we had a key and yep, they were metal bins. Can't remember cleaning anything else from said bin 'oles (unless it looked like it could be sold for beer money). ;)

jaysay 28-06-2013 08:22

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Originally Posted by gdm27 (Post 1064338)
Shared bin ole, outside toilet, coal ole. Back in the early 60's we had our coal delivered by the Salmons (sorry can't remember the 1st names) and we could only afford 3 sacks so my Mum who was at work told me to count the bags to make sure it was the right amount, yea right, 8 year old telling a big dirty coalman he has miss-counted!!!! Never happened, we did always get the right amount mind!

Bill Salmon and his sons Rex and Alan, Alan started a Private Hire firm with his son a few years ago, its now one of the biggest in Hyndburn, Hyndburn Cars

jaysay 28-06-2013 08:24

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1064351)
Yep, we had a key and yep, they were metal bins. Can't remember cleaning anything else from said bin 'oles (unless it looked like it could be sold for beer money). ;)

Beer money Wyn now that was scraping the er um bin hole:D

MargaretR 28-06-2013 08:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1064397)
Bill Salmon and his sons Rex and Alan, Alan started a Private Hire firm with his son a few years ago, its now one of the biggest in Hyndburn, Hyndburn Cars

I knew Alan Salmon in my teen years when I 'mated out' with 4 girls from the New Lane area.

It is good to know that he has been successful in business - I always use Hyndburn Cars.

jaysay 28-06-2013 08:41

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1064399)
I knew Alan Salmon in my teen years when I 'mated out' with 4 girls from the New Lane area.

It is good to know that he has been successful in business - I always use Hyndburn Cars.

Think they're the only Hyndburn firm with local drivers never seen an Asian driving one of their cars, Think Alan and Rex were brought up on Trinity Street Margaret, Alan lives on Rhyddings street or did, ain't seen him for a few years now, he used to do part of the car ambulance transfer system, that's the last time I saw him.


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