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MargaretR 22-03-2008 12:12

weird intermittent faults
 
For the past 2 days my computer has been acting weirdly-
1. A click of the mouse opened the same window 2 or more times.
2. I heard a brief strange 'grating/pipping' noise, as -
3. The list of my contacts in Windows Live Messenger flashed on and off.
4. The cursor moved of its own accord/was uncontrollable
5. When playing solitaire of various types the game played itself.(I lost :()
6. I had to use ctrl/alt/delete to close open pages because clicking the 'x' didnt work

My attempts to cure this-
Changed mouse
System restore back 3 weeks
Disc clean up and defrag
Removed Real player (because it was recently downloaded)
Removed Spybot search and destroy (replaced with Windows defender)
(I always Avg virus scan daily and I have used Spybot daily)
All programme and Windows updates installed (after system restore)

I suspect that the problem is due to overheating, since it doesn't happen until several hours of use have elapsed.

I hope that this PC is not signalling its imminent death because it is less than 3 years old and I dread the prospect of Vista.

It is a Dell Dimension 5100 desktop

Has anyone else had this problem? and
How did you cure it? (other than by switching off for a few hours)

panther 22-03-2008 18:05

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sounds like to me ya have a virus margaret:(

but then again im no expert, it could be summat trivial

Retlaw 22-03-2008 19:01

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Hi Margaret.

Sounds like dust iside the computer.

I get that problem every so often, my computers are under the desk,
every so often I take the covers off and blow the dust out,

take the cover off, if its an upright you will find a screw at the back, unfasten it and and side should slide off, inside on the mother board you should see a small fan ontop of the CPU, I'l bet the fan blades are mucky, hold the fan blades still with a pencil gently ,and use a small artists paint brush to clean the fan blades, make sure the air vents are clear on the power pack, and the vents on the casing, don't catch any connections but make sure they are all tightly in place. then put cover back and plug all the externals back and it should be OK.
Don't worry about having to change to vista you can always take the hard drive out and replace it with the one you are already using.
Retlaw.

MargaretR 22-03-2008 19:18

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Thanks for that Retlaw - feel better that it is nothing 'terminal'
big sigh of relief

panther 22-03-2008 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 550334)
Hi Margaret.

Sounds like dust iside the computer.

I get that problem every so often, my computers are under the desk,
every so often I take the covers off and blow the dust out,

take the cover off, if its an upright you will find a screw at the back, unfasten it and and side should slide off, inside on the mother board you should see a small fan ontop of the CPU, I'l bet the fan blades are mucky, hold the fan blades still with a pencil gently ,and use a small artists paint brush to clean the fan blades, make sure the air vents are clear on the power pack, and the vents on the casing, don't catch any connections but make sure they are all tightly in place. then put cover back and plug all the externals back and it should be OK.
Don't worry about having to change to vista you can always take the hard drive out and replace it with the one you are already using.
Retlaw.

is that all??:o

told ya I wasnt a expert...lol
I wouldnt have thought in a million years that 'dust' could make ya computer do that!:rolleyes:

MargaretR 22-03-2008 19:50

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I find that cat hair gets into places that other muck cannot reach.

Retlaw 22-03-2008 20:20

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O yes it will, every time I open them up for cleaning, I find a duplicate of our little dog inside, she likes sitting under my desk chair, waiting for me to stop playing with the idiot box, if I move she's up waiting to see if I change my glasses, if I do she knows she's going out.
Retlaw

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 550349)
is that all??:o

told ya I wasnt a expert...lol
I wouldnt have thought in a million years that 'dust' could make ya computer do that!:rolleyes:


MargaretR 27-03-2008 19:25

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I never managed to get in it to clear out dust and cat hair.

I did get as far as disconnecting all the spaghetti at the back, but was flummoxed at getting it open.

I reconnected the spaghetti and went onto Dell website to read the online user manual, so know I know how, but I think I have found the cause of that grating/pipping noise-

I had been getting an error report message which was connected with 'Kontiki' (thought that was a raft!!)
Eventually identified it with that BBC download programme - so uninstalled that and have had no problems since - so the dust can stay put a bit longer.

MargaretR 02-04-2008 16:02

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The grating noise returned so I got a new PC delivered yesterday and now it is up and running, I have had the courage to look inside the old one - very little dust to be seen - what dust there was was well away from anything looking important. I 'puffed' at the board wiring places, and puffed a lot more getting the cover back on.
I think that it was giving the first indications of dying, but I will keep it safe as a back up pc, because I can't survive without one.

Neil 02-04-2008 16:13

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Sounds to me like you just had a software problem. Your Dell probably came with a restore disk to make it look like when it was new. That will more than likely solve all your software problems but you will loose anything you don't back up. The noise I would guess is only a fan that needs replacing or usually you can re-lubricate them. They are cheap so sometimes its best to just put a new one in. Deffinately no reason to buy a new PC if the old one was a good enough spec for what you used if for.

MargaretR 02-04-2008 16:17

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 556214)
Sounds to me like you just had a software problem. Your Dell probably came with a restore disk to make it look like when it was new. That will more than likely solve all your software problems but you will loose anything you don't back up. The noise I would guess is only a fan that needs replacing or usually you can re-lubricate them. They are cheap so sometimes its best to just put a new one in. Deffinately no reason to buy a new PC if the old one was a good enough spec for what you used if for.

I wanted a new monitor anyway - gone from 12" to 22" - WOW it's big!

Neil 02-04-2008 16:41

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Are you sure it was 12"? was it a laptop?

MargaretR 02-04-2008 16:43

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 556229)
Are you sure it was 12"? was it a laptop?

I think it would measure 15" diagonally (as you should measure), but only 12" measured horizontally

onlyme 02-04-2008 16:49

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If you had a intel pentium D processor, it is renowned for overheating and making the fan run to its maximum. The Intel Core 2 doe processor replaced this and eliminates the problem completely.

Its always handy to keep an eye on accumulated muck on the fan as well, especillay if the pc is in an enclosed space x

MargaretR 02-04-2008 16:56

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The fan is positioned behind that indented air inlet, and I regularly removed gunge from it with my electrostatic duster

Neil 02-04-2008 17:08

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How old is that PC?

K.S.H 02-04-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 556251)
electrostatic duster

Static and PC's don't go well together :eek:

MargaretR 02-04-2008 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 556271)
How old is that PC?

3 years - not for sale (just in case you were thinking of that)

Neil 02-04-2008 19:49

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i wasn't. It's just a shame you have discarded it when it was still fine for your needs.

MargaretR 02-04-2008 19:56

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 556393)
i wasn't. It's just a shame you have discarded it when it was still fine for your needs.

..not discarded ....just dormant, in case , ...I don't 'shop' so depend on internet shopping to survive.

Neil 02-04-2008 19:58

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dormant is the same as discarded. If you are keeping it as a spare you could at least restore it to new to fix the software faults. Should you come to need it again it will still be faulty, in fact if it is a fan and it siezes up it will fail when you try to use it.

entwisi 03-04-2008 16:45

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It was a 17" screen Maragaret.

You should get it fixed as Neil said, when you want it to work it won´t as it stands

MargaretR 03-04-2008 16:54

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I have been reading up on reformatting
I did it once under the guidance of a Dell chap, by phone
I intend to try it on my own

Neil 03-04-2008 17:14

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I think your Dell will have a method of restoring it to its original as you bought it state

MargaretR 03-04-2008 17:27

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Because this 3 yr old pc is not in use it gives me a chance to learn about such things without the risk of being left without internet access.
I do absolutely all my finances and shopping on the web, and so would be 'up a gum tree' without a pc that works.
If my new goes caput I get help under guarantee to sort it. So I have a year to sort this old one-----might need a year :D

jambutty 22-05-2008 13:05

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You really shouldn’t store your tower under the desk. It becomes a dust magnet. As you shuffle your feet under the desk any dust/animal hairs on the carpet get thrown up and sucked into the tower.

The best place for a tower unit is on the desk. You have easy access to the leads, sockets at the back and the CD/DVD/Floppy drives at the front. Not that anyone uses floppies these days.

When I first set up my PC yonks ago I bought a dining room table from a second hand shop for a tenner and two 1.5 cm thick, 7 feet long by 18 inches wide white Contiboards. These straddled the table to leave an 18 inches overhang at each side.

My monitor (then a CRT screen – now an LCD screen) keyboard and tower sit over the table. The left overhang has my printer and right overhang my scanner and both are covered with a cloth so that my smoking doesn’t coat them in smoke residue.

I also have a 2 feet by 1 foot piece of plywood wedged under the tower to support my whole arm from the elbow whilst operating the mouse.

MargaretR 22-05-2008 13:36

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My tower and printer are on a wooden tea trolley beside my desk.
After I had gone to the expense of buying a new PC I rearranged my furniture layout (yet again) - the faults stopped.
I now think that they were due to a radio telephone which was sited too near.

WillowTheWhisp 22-05-2008 17:43

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What you need is an orgone thingummy ;)

My latest WeirdoWillow episode. I think someone made them in an icecube tray!
:D

Loz 23-05-2008 10:05

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Yeah, I had this problem before, the CPU overheats because the fans RPM isn't to it's maximum, just cleaned it out and it was right as rain


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