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Sunflower49 19-01-2014 19:40

Computer been knocked over
 
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but, my desktop computer has been knocked from its shelf, height of about 1ft or so, and following the fall it went to the blue screen, message on it stated 'configuring setup', it was switched off after seeming 'stuck' on this screen.

Now it isn't registering the keyboard or mouse.

I have thought to take it apart and remove all components, in case something has been knocked loose?

But I'm no expert. Can anybody help?

I'll send it off for repair if necessary just thought it may be worth asking here.
:)

maxthecollie 19-01-2014 19:42

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Sounds like you need a computer guru

gpick24 19-01-2014 19:44

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
If you feel confident doing it, re-seating everything is a good start. Be aware though, computer components are static sensitive, you should really ground yourself first.

gpick24 19-01-2014 19:47

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Is it the windows blue screen or Bios blue screen.

Bios might look like this -

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 19:50

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1090999)
If you feel confident doing it, re-seating everything is a good start. Be aware though, computer components are static sensitive, you should really ground yourself first.

Thanks G, I'll put my wellies on ;) :)

Sorry just noted your second reply. It isn't that one, a windows one. The message is no longer there since getting it put back on.

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1090998)
Sounds like you need a computer guru

Yes I do! I wish I was one, never have much luck with technology at all!

This really wasn't my fault though for a change :)

maxthecollie 19-01-2014 19:53

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091001)
Thanks G, I'll put my wellies on ;) :)

Sorry just noted your second reply. It isn't that one, a windows one. The message is no longer there since getting it put back on.



Yes I do! I wish I was one, never have much luck with technology at all!

This really wasn't my fault though for a change :)

I'm hopeless when my pc goes wrong I have to rely on my son

gpick24 19-01-2014 19:58

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091001)
Thanks G, I'll put my wellies on ;) :)

That wouldn`t work, you need grounding not insulating.
Something like this - Antistatic wrist strap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/anti-stati...ng-cable-zt91y
You fasten it to your wrist, then connect to something that is earthed.

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091001)
Sorry just noted your second reply. It isn't that one, a windows one. The message is no longer there since getting it put back on.

So all`s back working properly now?

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 20:13

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I know, I was only joking ( I don't actually own any wellies)! That's good to know though!

No it isn't working, still got the blue screen of death :( the message is no longer there though, It's a blank screen with a HDML message noting 'No Signal', now.

About 30 seconds ago, after I undid the tower and made sure things were attached properly, it looked as if it was okay.

I had a message prompting a reboot, which I have done, and then back to this screen!

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 20:16

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*Update* windows screen back on, startup repair screen.


('Startup repair is checking your computer for problems. If problems are fund startup repair will fix them automatically. Start your computer to repair')

Is this sounding promising?:confused: :)

gpick24 19-01-2014 20:25

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091007)
I know, I was only joking ( I don't actually own any wellies)! That's good to know though!

Can`t be too careful, I`ve made the mistake thinking someones joking and they weren`t.:)

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091007)
No it isn't working, still got the blue screen of death :( the message is no longer there though, It's a blank screen with a HDML message noting 'No Signal', now.

About 30 seconds ago, after I undid the tower and made sure things were attached properly, it looked as if it was okay.

I had a message prompting a reboot, which I have done, and then back to this screen!

Do you see anything at all when first switching on? any manufacturers logo`s?
Why type of keyboard, wireless or wired? If wired is it USB?
Which things did you check were attached? Did you check the RAM and Video Card?

gpick24 19-01-2014 20:28

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091008)
*Update* windows screen back on, startup repair screen.


('Startup repair is checking your computer for problems. If problems are fund startup repair will fix them automatically. Start your computer to repair')

Is this sounding promising?:confused: :)

Depends if it finds any problems, the jolt could have damaged the hard drive, leave it to do it`s thing and hopefully it will be OK.
Is the keyboard working again?

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 20:40

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1091010)
Can`t be too careful, I`ve made the mistake thinking someones joking and they weren`t.:)



Do you see anything at all when first switching on? any manufacturers logo`s?
Why type of keyboard, wireless or wired? If wired is it USB?
Which things did you check were attached? Did you check the RAM and Video Card?

Actually yes that's true, I've made that mistake too misjudging how daft people are!
I checked the vid card, and yes It's a USB keyboard.

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1091012)
Depends if it finds any problems, the jolt could have damaged the hard drive, leave it to do it`s thing and hopefully it will be OK.
Is the keyboard working again?

It looks to have sorted as I've been typing!It's working now!

Thanks so much for your help gpick, really appreciated.

It was my dog that caused this issue... It was knocked over when she, for some unknown reason, decided to suddenly dart under the desk. She's never been interested in the desk before, I have no idea why she did this and then I heard this crash...

I was about to make her into a rather nice rug :D;)

Margaret Pilkington 19-01-2014 20:43

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Oh No you weren't Jen...I know you better than that!

Glad it is working again.
I hate it when things go wrong...it always happens when you are skint too.

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 20:47

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1091002)
I'm hopeless when my pc goes wrong I have to rely on my son

I'm better than I used to be, just because I got fed up of calling up my 'techy' peers and asking for help with things which they obviously found very simple.

I'm still pretty useless though as this thread demonstrates!

I admire people (like gpick!) who have the patience to get very good with computers, probably because I find the whole subject of I.T incredibly boring! But each to their own, I wish I didn't-it must be very useful to be good at it!

gpick24 19-01-2014 20:53

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Glad it`s sorted itself out.

Pooch needs putting on the naughty step for a while.

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 20:56

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1091014)
Oh No you weren't Jen...I know you better than that!

Glad it is working again.
I hate it when things go wrong...it always happens when you are skint too.

Everyone's patience stops somewhere, Margaret! :D:D

You're right, about money and, when things go wrong it always seems to happen all at once doesn't it.

Funnily enough, this computer has only been set up a day,and up until a couple of days before that it had been with a computer repair man, for about 3 months!! Said man had ordered a part for it which took so long to arrive, and then was wrong when it came, he was very good and apologetic, although not his fault, but my t'other half was fed up and very pleased to get it back, and then this happens! I thought he was going to cry!

gpick24 19-01-2014 21:19

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091017)
Funnily enough, this computer has only been set up a day,and up until a couple of days before that it had been with a computer repair man, for about 3 months!! Said man had ordered a part for it which took so long to arrive, and then was wrong when it came, he was very good and apologetic, although not his fault,

That`s terrible service, most computer parts are available with next day delivery. I get most parts from ebuyer and even with economy delivery it`s here within two or three days.

Margaret Pilkington 19-01-2014 21:28

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yes Jen, you are right ......patience isn't inexhaustible, but pets and children...well they look at you with those big eyes and you forgive them...maybe not right away.......:D

As for mending computers - well, I'm not that brave.
I once bought myself a book about fiddling with computers...one of those 'Dummies' books.
I looked at it, but that was as far as I got...the book went to the charity shop in one of my rare 'fling outs'.
I guess it is best to leave it to those who know what they are doing.

Sunflower49 19-01-2014 21:29

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To be fair, I have used him before and he's always been very good. He said this supplier is one he's used for years and often, he was very annoyed with them and very apologetic, I didn't nag at him because he's always given good service before. I passed it off as 'One of those things' but it was a relief to get it back.

Sod's law that my dog then sends it flying.

She was in the naughty corner for definite! She's a strange dog-now and again she'll just randomly go pottering about the room as if looking for something to mess about with! As I said never has she gone under the desk before, though.

It's working now so we're both happy, I'd have hated to have had to call the guy up again and tell him this !lol

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1091022)
yes Jen, you are right ......patience isn't inexhaustible, but pets and children...well they look at you with those big eyes and you forgive them...maybe not right away.......:D

As for mending computers - well, I'm not that brave.
I once bought myself a book about fiddling with computers...one of those 'Dummies' books.
I looked at it, but that was as far as I got...the book went to the charity shop in one of my rare 'fling outs'.
I guess it is best to leave it to those who know what they are doing.

Yes I guess so-I know she didn't mean to do it and doesn't understand what she's done..I'll give her a cuddle in a bit, not sure himself has forgiven her yet though!

As for the book, well, you tried! I'm sure I'd not even understand a book on computing let alone be able to learn from one!

davemac 19-01-2014 21:42

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My problem is the reverse of what has occurred here, something will be working champion and I decide to hoover out the inside or I delete a file that I think I don't need, and before you know it its 3 in the morning and I just managed to get it back performing like it was at 9 in the previous evening. You've got to laugh haven't you,............. or perhaps not

Margaret Pilkington 19-01-2014 21:44

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Been there done that, got the certificate of insanity for it :D

gpick24 19-01-2014 21:47

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Originally Posted by davemac (Post 1091032)
My problem is the reverse of what has occurred here, something will be working champion and I decide to hoover out the inside or I delete a file that I think I don't need, and before you know it its 3 in the morning and I just managed to get it back performing like it was at 9 in the previous evening. You've got to laugh haven't you,............. or perhaps not

Vacuuming inside your PC is not a good idea, it generates static and can kill components. A can of compressed air is the way to do it.

davemac 19-01-2014 23:14

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1091036)
Vacuuming inside your PC is not a good idea, it generates static and can kill components. A can of compressed air is the way to do it.

It occurred to me at 2.45am in the morning that vacuming out the computer was not a good idea, I haven't done it since, I didn't have a can of compressed air so I used an air freshener, it still doesn't work, but it smells nice..............only joking.

shillelagh 20-01-2014 00:00

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when something goes wrong with mine I ring accyman ...

Studio25 20-01-2014 10:20

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Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091023)
...It's working now so we're both happy...

Just while you're in the frame of mind that you might have lost it forever, consider what problems it would have caused if you had lost it (other than financially, through replacement).

I mean emails stored locally, photos, documents, passwords, licences etc.

If you would have lost something important, forever, then it's time to consider your backup options. For most people, a USB stick or external drive is good enough, but maybe that's the basis for another thread.

Margaret Pilkington 20-01-2014 10:57

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Yes.....that is so true.
I lost a lot of stuff when one of my computers decided to commit suicide.....my current computer reminds me weekly to do it...and I always put it off for later. I must do it...NOW!

Sunflower49 20-01-2014 12:33

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 1091050)
when something goes wrong with mine I ring accyman ...

If it hadn't have sorted itself out last night I would have done the same!

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1091076)
Just while you're in the frame of mind that you might have lost it forever, consider what problems it would have caused if you had lost it (other than financially, through replacement).

I mean emails stored locally, photos, documents, passwords, licences etc.

If you would have lost something important, forever, then it's time to consider your backup options. For most people, a USB stick or external drive is good enough, but maybe that's the basis for another thread.

Very good point-this has happened to me before. It wouldn't have mattered so much with this particular computer in this case (most of my work docs are stored on my netbook and photographs are stored electronically) but I remember being gutted when I lost all my music a few months back. Some of it totally irreplaceable!

gpick24 20-01-2014 12:42

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There are ways of retrieving lost files, even from formatted drives, not guaranteed to work, but worth a shot.

Restless 20-01-2014 21:39

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Bare foot on tiled floor and touch taps before touching components :D

Studio25 21-01-2014 08:11

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1091099)
There are ways of retrieving lost files, even from formatted drives, not guaranteed to work, but worth a shot.

Those utilities are no good if the drive has been physically damaged by being knocked over by a dog. Recovery then involves specialist "forensic level" attention at the cost of thousands.

For most users, even home users, the data on their computer is more valuable (financially or sentimentally) than the hardware.

gpick24 21-01-2014 08:42

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1091257)
Those utilities are no good if the drive has been physically damaged by being knocked over by a dog...

I don`t think that was the situation with the lost music.:)

Studio25 21-01-2014 21:48

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...but it is the OP's situation.

gpick24 21-01-2014 22:04

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1091355)
...but it is the OP's situation.


Same person Studio.:) Just offering a suggestion for files already lost, if it`s the same PC the files may still be recoverable.:alright:

Studio25 21-01-2014 22:45

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Ah, right. I missed the bit where the lost music was the result of a soft-delete. Must be in another thread, or I'm just being blind in this one.

gpick24 22-01-2014 06:42

Re: Computer been knocked over
 
Doesn`t say how the music was lost, here`s what i was going off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091098)
...I remember being gutted when I lost all my music a few months back. Some of it totally irreplaceable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunflower49 (Post 1091017)
Funnily enough, this computer has only been set up a day,and up until a couple of days before that it had been with a computer repair man, for about 3 months!!

Made me think this may be the same PC and if it`s just a format or reinstallation of windows that lost the music, then some may be recoverable.


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