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taddy 30-01-2020 14:50

been told I need a new computer
 
My Kids, (now middle aged), are telling me that I should spend some of their inheritence (Ha Ha, little do they know); on a new electrical driven computer instead of my old Windows XP steam driven one before the hard drive gives up the ghost and I lose whatever is on it.
My problem is that it has taken me hundreds of years to master the one I have got, what are the perils, (not to mention costs); of a complete new system, IE, computer, screen, keyboard, mouse, etc,etc, etc.
Any price above a few pints of real ale is not acceptable,(only half joking)

Margaret Pilkington 30-01-2020 16:05

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Taddy, it depends what you want to do on your computer.
I bought a new set up three years ago...ok, it was a factory reconditioned rig.....and I did not need a monitor.
I think I paid less than £300 for a computer that has a huge 2 TB storage space.
The same computer to buy today is £125 from a firm in Burnley....the drawback is it rins on Windows 7.... though you can get similar with Windows 10 for a little bit more.
If you are getting used to something new, then I guess that opting for Windows 10 is the better option.

If I were looking to,rplace my system I would save up and get an apple mac desk top.(don't know what this would cost reconditioned)
It is different from Windows, but as I say...if you are having to learn something new anyway.
Get your middle aged children to help you choose....and get them to show you the ropes.

Margaret Pilkington 30-01-2020 16:12

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Just had a very quick look at the cost of an Apple Mac all in one machine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-iMa...AAAOSwHF5ckUxc

It is more than a few pints of real beer....so guess that rules it out :D

taddy 30-01-2020 16:51

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236520)
Just had a very quick look at the cost of an Apple Mac all in one machine.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-iMa...AAAOSwHF5ckUxc

It is more than a few pints of real beer....so guess that rules it out :D

Thanks for that Marge, the thing that bothers me is, will I be able to transfer all the information on my current computer to the new one without losing what I have saved (as in my favorites);over the years ?

Ryewolf90 30-01-2020 17:51

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
You can export favourites/bookmarks from IE and Firefox as files which can then be imported on the new computer.

Margaret Pilkington 31-01-2020 07:07

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
You can get a special cable to link the old and the new computers and this will transfer whatever you want to keep.
Some programs may NOT be compatible with a new operating system(that's my beef with changing over the W10...well and the fact that it feels clunky)
Do you back up your computer to an external drive.....it may be possible to transfer you info from whatever you back you info up on.
As I said before....get your children to show you the way.

taddy 31-01-2020 09:40

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryewolf90 (Post 1236528)
You can export favourites/bookmarks from IE and Firefox as files which can then be imported on the new computer.

Sorry but the only export I know of is the name of a pale ale, my "search" engine is google crome, (I hope that I've spelt that right)! are the files on that capable of being transfered?
I am sorry again for being such a Ludite/pain in the nether regions, regards
Taddy.

taddy 31-01-2020 09:44

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236549)
You can get a special cable to link the old and the new computers and this will transfer whatever you want to keep.
Some programs may NOT be compatible with a new operating system(that's my beef with changing over the W10...well and the fact that it feels clunky)
Do you back up your computer to an external drive.....it may be possible to transfer you info from whatever you back you info up on.
As I said before....get your children to show you the way.

Thanks again Marge I will try to get my oldest daughters husband to sort me out with some info, my daughter reckons he is a bit of an anorak with computers.Yours, Taddy.

Margaret Pilkington 31-01-2020 09:54

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
If that is the case Taddy, use his skills...get him to show you....after all why keep a dog and bark yourself?

taddy 31-01-2020 10:10

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236561)
If that is the case Taddy, use his skills...get him to show you....after all why keep a dog and bark yourself?

Will do, by the way whilst on the subject of computers, when I had a look at my E.mails yesterday, "reminder" came up saying that my television licence expired that day; after digging it out, I found that it does not expire until July.
Thr E.mail was asking me to click on it in order to pay the licence fee. must be a scam, BE CAREFUL.

cashman 31-01-2020 12:21

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1236564)
Will do, by the way whilst on the subject of computers, when I had a look at my E.mails yesterday, "reminder" came up saying that my television licence expired that day; after digging it out, I found that it does not expire until July.
Thr E.mail was asking me to click on it in order to pay the licence fee. must be a scam, BE CAREFUL.

good job yeh looked taddy;) i never click on links that ask me to pay online, unless i checked first,

DaveinGermany 01-02-2020 17:43

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Check out you "Oldies" being tech Savvy! :D

From an insolent, disrespectful Pup.

taddy 21-02-2020 08:52

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1236564)
Will do, by the way whilst on the subject of computers, when I had a look at my E.mails yesterday, "reminder" came up saying that my television licence expired that day; after digging it out, I found that it does not expire until July.
Thr E.mail was asking me to click on it in order to pay the licence fee. must be a scam, BE CAREFUL.

Whilst on the computer yesterday my phone rang and a well spoken female voice informed me that Quote, "Because of your illegal use of the web, your internet access will be closed down within 24 hours; please press number one to talk to an internet technician.I simply replaced the receiver but the same thing,same voice, same message happened again a few hours later. (BE CAREFUL)
Yours an angry old, sorry, (slightly over middle aged), Taddy the Lancashire Ludite.

RainbowSix 22-02-2020 10:05

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
My wife got that call too, we laughed and waited.
and waited.
Still waiting - still working :)

RE your favorites etc.
It may be best to back them up now, save them and put it in a safe online location.
Perhaps get yourself a gmail account (comes with plenty of online storage too) and save them in the cloud.
Same with your pictures, just have eveything marked as private and not public.

Although a more secure way of dealing with it would be to get another hard drive, add that to your existing machine and copy everything to that, then you can remove it and add that into a new machine when you eventually get one.

Or buy your new machine and copy the files over to it (you can take your existing hard drive and put it in the new machine to then copy the files over).

RE learning windows 10: There are add-ons that will make the desktop look and behave like windows 7, other than that - its still windows just it's gonna be a damn site faster.
Just beware of buying a 2nd hand system thats got win10 on yet is not really capable of running it well.

Margaret Pilkington 22-02-2020 11:20

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Rainbow six, Taddy is a Luddite....he has few computer skills....so putting his old hard drive to a new machine to transfer his files would be beyond his capability.
As for Windows 10...making it look like Windows 7 does not make it act like Windows 7.
Also, it maybe that many of the programs that Taddy has been using are no longer compatible with Windows 10...for some people(me included,) this presents a problem....if I can no longer open saved projects then a lot of my work is useless....and has to be done over in new programs....incurring another expense.

I hate Windows 10....I have really considered getting the xtra pc USB....this has Linux loaded on it and can be plugged in and this might be a better option for Taddy(cheaper and removable if it does not suit....and can be used on an old computer as long as it has USB port)
I have posted a link to this product....I have no commercial link with this company by the way.

taddy 22-02-2020 18:44

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1237427)
Rainbow six, Taddy is a Luddite....he has few computer skills....so putting his old hard drive to a new machine to transfer his files would be beyond his capability.
As for Windows 10...making it look like Windows 7 does not make it act like Windows 7.
Also, it maybe that many of the programs that Taddy has been using are no longer compatible with Windows 10...for some people(me included,) this presents a problem....if I can no longer open saved projects then a lot of my work is useless....and has to be done over in new programs....incurring another expense.

I hate Windows 10....I have really considered getting the xtra pc USB....this has Linux loaded on it and can be plugged in and this might be a better option for Taddy(cheaper and removable if it does not suit....and can be used on an old computer as long as it has USB port)
I have posted a link to this product....I have no commercial link with this company by the way.

Marge, your initial sentence is spot on, as for the rest of your comments they are way above my head but I am gradually learning, (hopefully).
Yours, Taddy, (the Lancashire Luddite).

Margaret Pilkington 23-02-2020 08:33

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
That is the way to go...gradual learning....though I think you have left that a bit late.:D

taddy 23-02-2020 09:22

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1237478)
That is the way to go...gradual learning....though I think you have left that a bit late.:D

Thanks for that, I will try to take it as a complement.

DaveinGermany 23-02-2020 11:50

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1237466)
I am gradually learning, (hopefully).
Yours, Taddy, (the Lancashire Luddite).


Just ask the kids, or failing that hit it with something, works for me!:D

mind you, the hitting it bit gets pricey. :eek:

Restless 23-07-2020 06:00

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Did you ever get around to replacing the PC that is running XP?

If you're using a pc that is running XP since back in the day then its morethanlikely you should just buy a new pc! After 5 mins of using a newer pc you will be like... wow this is so much faster.

XP is a serious security risk. Do not use it online. 7 by now is prob under the same catagory as it is also longer officialy supported by microsoft.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1237427)
I hate Windows 10....I have really considered getting the xtra pc USB....this has Linux loaded on it and can be plugged in and this might be a better option for Taddy(cheaper and removable if it does not suit....and can be used on an old computer as long as it has USB port)
I have posted a link to this product....I have no commercial link with this company by the way.


you can just make your own bootable USB stick of linux!

Even this might not be good enough for the PC taddy was talking about because the hardware is going to be so old that its possible even the version of linux xtra provide might be too heavy. Might be better going for lubuntu -- but then again. The learning curve might be too steep for someone that is thinking "do i really need a new pc" when they are using a pc so old that it still has XP installed. I dunno.

Margaret Pilkington 23-07-2020 10:20

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
There speaks a man who knows his stuff.
Restless, Taddy is just in Baby school where computers are concerned.....and I say this respectfully because it is where we all started.
He even calls himself The Luddite.

DaveinGermany 23-07-2020 19:08

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1242319)
Did you ever get around to replacing the PC that is running XP?


Mate, I was right with you to this point (see above), the Tadmeister, is worse than me & that's by his own admission, so I think the answer to your question & suggestions is probably a big fat Nope! :D

taddy 24-07-2020 12:10

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
you can just make your own bootable USB stick of linux!

Even this might not be good enough for the PC taddy was talking about because the hardware is going to be so old that its possible even the version of linux xtra provide might be too heavy. Might be better going for lubuntu --but then again. The learning curve might be too steep for someone that is thinking "do i really need a new pc" when they are using a pc so old that it still has XP installed. I dunno.[/QUOTE]

HaHa, USB stick of Linux, Linux extra to heavy, lupuntu--but.
I have not a clue what you are trying to tell but thank you anyway.
I shall just put another shovel full of coal into the boiler that supplies the steam that operates my XP machine, at least for the time being.
I think that it is now time that I was back on my allotment, (no electronics needed).
Thank you all for trying to help, Your's the Lancashire Luddite.

taddy 24-07-2020 12:15

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1242345)
Mate, I was right with you to this point (see above), the Tadmeister, is worse than me & that's by his own admission, so I think the answer to your question & suggestions is probably a big fat Nope! :D

Thanks for that Dave, Oh you are awful But I like you. (as Dick Emery used to say) :D:D

Margaret Pilkington 24-07-2020 12:49

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
what I want to know Taddy is...where are you getting the coal?
Can't be from the railway embankment as the trains stopped running to Huncoat when God was in short trousers....around the same time the NCB shop at the bottom of burnley Rd closed.

I did tell him that he was talking a language that was foreign to you!

taddy 25-07-2020 10:38

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Hazel seems to recall the N.C.B. shop being on the left hand side of Little Blackburn Road, lower down than Wardleworths bookshop but will stand to be corrected; Maybe Atarah can help on this one.
As to your question "where are you getting your coal"? Wilkinson's of Great Harwood have been supplying our needs since we had a solid fuel stove fitted seven or eight years ago, burning only (smokeless) coal I must add, in case my Friendly neighbourhood busybody is reading this. You are right about "Restless's" post being a foreign language to me but then again it does not matter, my steam powered XP device serves me well enough at the moment.
Your's, Glad to be a Luddite.

Margaret Pilkington 25-07-2020 13:23

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
I used to walk down Burnley Road every school day on my way home.....and there was a coal shop at the bottom of Burnley Rd......it had baskets of different grades and types of coal in the window......now I thought it was the NCB shop, but I could be wrong...after all this would be in the region of 60+ years....I went to Peel Park until I was 11.....so Hazel could be right...but I know the shop advertised the NCB....it had the logo in the window.

Anyway as long as you get the fuel to keep your steam generated machine going...all is good.

landhusweg 12-08-2020 14:31

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
In the late forties’ early fifties, we (on Belfield road) got our coal from a guy called Matison, or Mathison. He had his business across from Mosley’s bakery on Jacob Street.
Then we got electric fires fitted, so no reason for coal.
I also seem to recall early sixties, that somebody took a photo of Accrington from the top of the coppice in the forties with all the smoke in the atmosphere, and then mid-sixties and my what a difference there was.

Cheers

Restless 14-09-2020 15:41

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
i was thinking lubuntu but then perhaps might even have to go to Puppy linux or DSL :D



Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1242362)
you can just make your own bootable USB stick of linux!

Even this might not be good enough for the PC taddy was talking about because the hardware is going to be so old that its possible even the version of linux xtra provide might be too heavy. Might be better going for lubuntu --but then again. The learning curve might be too steep for someone that is thinking "do i really need a new pc" when they are using a pc so old that it still has XP installed. I dunno.

HaHa, USB stick of Linux, Linux extra to heavy, lupuntu--but.
I have not a clue what you are trying to tell but thank you anyway.
I shall just put another shovel full of coal into the boiler that supplies the steam that operates my XP machine, at least for the time being.
I think that it is now time that I was back on my allotment, (no electronics needed).
Thank you all for trying to help, Your's the Lancashire Luddite.[/QUOTE]

taddy 15-03-2021 10:03

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
My son and grandson turned up yesterday whilst I was firing up the boiler for my steam operated, belt driven computer.It is about time that you got shut of this and updated it; I can get you a brand new all singing all dancing set up for less than £500 my lad said;
I almost (ALMOST) agreed, until I found out that was purely for the hardware. When I questioned about "Windows Office Word",Google Earth, Etc, Oh that is a whole new ball game he said, they will cost over and above the £500. at this my Luddite skills kicked in (ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE), I gasped. By Eck I came very close to abandoning my ultra Luddite principles.

gpick24 16-03-2021 14:30

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Seems a bit expensive Taddy, Google Earth is free nowadays and depending on what version of office you have you might be able to take your licence to a new computer, if not there are free alternatives to office anyway.

taddy 16-03-2021 15:29

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
[QUOTE=gpick24;1251660]Seems a bit expensive Taddy, Google Earth is free nowadays and depending on what version of office you have you might be able to take your licence to a new computer, if not there are free alternatives to office anyway

Thanks for that gpick, when I got this computer, (at the turn of the 21st Century), or it seems that long ago; The lad who installed it for me used an external hard drive to remove the software on my old woodburning computer and then transfered it to my new coal fired one. I presume that is what you refer to when you say that I may be able to take the licence to the new computer.
However when I mentioned this to my 52 year old ex army youngster all I got was some (good natured) abuse about my being known as the "Lancashire Luddite), followed by the title, Tight person,or words to that effect.
However I have decided that the more I spend on a new computer, the less I will have to carry on pursuing my other (chief) passion of Hobgoblin tasting.
All said in the best possible taste, Yours, the self confessed, Lancashire Luddite.

taddy 22-05-2022 09:52

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
I am typing this on my new all singing, all dancing nuclear powered machine, as was said in the first of the Christopher Reeves Superman movies, it is " faster than a speeding bullet". For those of you who know about such things it is a Lenovo computer with Windows 10 and Dolby audio system, a Lenovo wireless keyboard and an Acer twenty two inch monitor. What a difference to my old coal fired machine, I could well get more than a little interested in this new fangled technology with this fancy piece of electronic ware.
Thanks to all Accy Webbers for dragging me out of the Victorian Age and into the new electronic age.

taddy 22-05-2022 09:54

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
But it still doesn't beat a couple or three Hobgoblins

Margaret Pilkington 22-05-2022 12:40

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Well Done that man!
I am so pleased that you are finding it interesting and there may be glitches along the way, but you are going in the right direction...forward). Do not lose that curiosity...it will take you to places that you have never been...and there is nothing wrong with taking a few hobgoblins along with you for company.

taddy 23-05-2022 08:15

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Thank you Marge, at least now I have something of interest to while away my time when the weather stops me from being Mrs. Taddy's Fruit and vegetable supplier.
Yours, the graduated from infant school to junior school Lancashire Luddite.

Margaret Pilkington 23-05-2022 09:17

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
The bit that impresses me …..and gives me hope is ‘I have something of interest’……keep that in your mind.

Less 23-05-2022 10:52

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Here's the test, I know your old computer couldn't, can your new one play this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHaBH4LqGsI

;)

taddy 23-05-2022 16:35

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Thanks Marge, As long as my "75 year old brain/mind) allows me to do so then I will, this new fangled electronic wizardry is already teaching me how to spell and punctuate without having to look up words in my paper bound "Oxford English Dictionary", Yes that is as old as my steam driven computer was. Maybe in a few months I will be able too enter into the secondary modern or even the Grammar school class. Even some of the words in this post were corrected by this all knowing machine. Yours, the ever ready to learning Lancashire Luddite.

taddy 23-05-2022 16:40

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
[QUOTE=Less;1266774]Here's the test, I know your old computer couldn't, can your new one play this:-

Yes, no problem but what does that imply, that is a serious question. yours, Taddy.

cashman 24-05-2022 17:48

Re: been told I need a new computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1266780)
Thanks Marge, As long as my "75 year old brain/mind) allows me to do so then I will, this new fangled electronic wizardry is already teaching me how to spell and punctuate without having to look up words in my paper bound "Oxford English Dictionary", Yes that is as old as my steam driven computer was. Maybe in a few months I will be able too enter into the secondary modern or even the Grammar school class. Even some of the words in this post were corrected by this all knowing machine. Yours, the ever ready to learning Lancashire Luddite.

dont go grammer school taddy i passed my 11 plus and was refused entry.


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