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entwisi 04-01-2008 07:48

Digital Switchover - ask your Q here
 
With the imminent switchover I thought I would start a thread where you can ask Q's relating to this major event.

If your not sure how it will affect you or just want to post up what equipment you have (tv, video, dvd recorder etc) and I/others will be happy to recommend what you need to do and how best to do it.

So let the fun begin!

WillowTheWhisp 04-01-2008 07:56

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 512285)
Unfortunately people will forget that their Video/DVDrecorders also need the digital signal converting(unless they too are digital ready). You either need to feed the decoded signal through your Video etc first or have a second digi box so you can watch one channel whilst taping another.

So if we can already record from Sky we're OK?

BTW, Yolande asked a question in Busman's original thread.

entwisi 04-01-2008 08:50

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yes to a degree you are but you need to think about how you will watch one channel whilst recording another.

Currently if you are recording sky you will probably watch your analogue TV signal or record analogue TV whilst watching Sky. Unless you have a sky+ or two sky boxes you won't be able to do this. One solution is to have a freeview box purely to record from but this won't give you your full sky package. Its possible depending on the equipment to wire it such that you can record from either Sky and freeview and watch the other.


ian

claytonender 04-01-2008 14:32

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I have a television (in the bedroom) that doesn't have a scart socket. I read somewhere that you can run a freeview box through a video into the television. But not sure how to do this. (I do have a freeview box for another television - so it would be easy to try out - providing I know what to do). Can you give me some idea what I need to be doing.

K.S.H 04-01-2008 14:54

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THIS LINK will help you set up your free-view equipment for anyone thats not sure

Neil 04-01-2008 17:13

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 512410)
I have a television (in the bedroom) that doesn't have a scart socket.

You need a freeview box that has an RF out to your TV then. Not sure how easy they are too find but the old OnDigital boxes have rf out as I use mine like that.

As you said you could scart the freeview box into a video, then you could record it or watch it through the rf to your TV

I have said rf a few times, this is the normal analog aerial connection into your TV for those not sure.

Neil 04-01-2008 17:14

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How about looking into free satellite from sky

freesat from Sky - A new way to get free digital satellite TV

Sounds expensive to me but I can put the dish up etc myself.

Not sure if you can just buy the freesat cards still from Sky. If so all you need is a digibox and dish

Neil 04-01-2008 17:19

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Or you could wait for this freesat - the new free HD digital satellite TV service from the BBC & ITV freesat from the BBC and ITV

We switch between October and December 2009. Not long really.

derekgas 04-01-2008 18:32

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I have 2 hd ready tv's, both are using an indoor aerial, and both have over 90 channels (including radio).

panther 04-01-2008 18:50

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i have a digibox in my bedroom, but like sky, if its peeing down, thats it i cant watch half the channels!
is this to do with my crappy aerial on the roof or my crappy digibox?, cuz its doing my head in!

derekgas 04-01-2008 19:26

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Digibox I would say, I had the same indoor aerial on the digibox before, and it was always freezing up, hd telly on same aerial, no problem.

Bonnyboy 04-01-2008 19:46

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If you have a HD TV is it worth connecting it with an HDMI cable, is there a visible difference ?
If it makes a difference then I might get one, they seem pricey though. Cryers in Accy say theirs range from £25 - £100, what would be the justification on going for the more expensive of the two ?

Speedy 04-01-2008 21:59

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Im normally quite good with stuff like this but the switchover has me baffled. In our house both tvs are hooked up to freeview, does this mean we dont have to change anything? Good advice will be rewarded with karma.

Bonnyboy 04-01-2008 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 512629)
Im normally quite good with stuff like this but the switchover has me baffled. In our house both tvs are hooked up to freeview, does this mean we dont have to change anything? Good advice will be rewarded with karma.

Guess we'll find out when a few of us are lookin at a blank screen one day :D

Speedy 04-01-2008 22:45

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Lol, i can just imagine it now, to be honest it wouldnt really bother me as if im inside and have the time im normally playing on my xbox rather than watching tv.

cashman 04-01-2008 23:03

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 512682)
Lol, i can just imagine it now, to be honest it wouldnt really bother me as if im inside and have the time im normally playing on my xbox rather than watching tv.

if your inside, whens the trial? are you expecting a lagging?:D:D

Neil 05-01-2008 00:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 512629)
does this mean we dont have to change anything?

You will still be able to watch your freeview after the switchover yes. If you still use a VCR it will only be able to record the channel you are watching unless you buy another freeview box just for the VCR to record from.

garinda 05-01-2008 00:14

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I have two televisions, one already set up with a digi-box. I have that connected to a DVD/Video recorder.

I can only record programmes from terrestrial TV on the video. What will happen after the change over? Will I never again be able to record programmes whilst I'm out, or watching something else?

Dazed and confused.:confused:

Neil 05-01-2008 00:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panther (Post 512507)
i have a digibox in my bedroom, but like sky, if its peeing down, thats it i cant watch half the channels!
is this to do with my crappy aerial on the roof or my crappy digibox?, cuz its doing my head in!

Give me a clue please with what you mean. When its raining what loses half its channels, your sky or your freeview through your aerial?

If Sky then your dish needs realigning, if freeview then you either need a better aerial or it needs readjusting. Your aerial might need changing for one of the so called digital aerials.

Talking about TV aerials they are tuned to match the transmitter you are on. They have a colour coding as in red, blue, green etc. Transmitters next to each other use a different section of the frequency band. I can't remember the colours but if Winter Hill was green then the little one up Royds Avenue might be blue. This is to stop interferance between transmitters. Also main transmitters are horizontally polorised and repeaters are vertically polorised. Again this is to reduce interferance.

This page tells you about Winter Hill Winter Hill digital switchover date | ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002

grannyclaret 05-01-2008 14:14

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I HAVE SKY+
I record programmes from my sky+, onto video tape using my tv/video combi unit.
I then watch my video in the kitchen on a seperate telly & video
QUESTION
Digsyboy's dog Sam, buggered up my tv/video combi and so i now need to replace it
I have seen a tv/video/DVD combi in the shop but it does not have the ticked box logo thingummyjig
Am I ok to buy this telly/vid/DVD combi thing, and feed my sky+ into it so that I can tape my sky programmes using the video function, so that I can then play the video in the kitchen.....?
I don't want the thing to pack up on me next year!!!
PLEASE HELP :-)

entwisi 05-01-2008 18:22

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goodness me one night off and look how many Q's.


I'm off out for a meal in a minute so I'll come back to each post tomorrow

Neil 05-01-2008 18:42

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 512919)
Am I ok to buy this telly/vid/DVD combi thing, and feed my sky+ into it so that I can tape my sky programmes using the video function, so that I can then play the video in the kitchen.....?
I don't want the thing to pack up on me next year!!!
PLEASE HELP :-)

I take it you can watch sky in your kitchen and so can record sky using your VCR in the kitchen.

Why do you record onto tape what you recorded onto your Sky+? Why don't you just watch the recorded program on Sky+ in the kitchen. Do you save the recorded programs to watch over and over and want to save space on the Sky+?

Neil 05-01-2008 18:50

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granny, I have just read your post again and I think you can't watch sky in the kitchen. If thats so what you need is a cable from the second rf output on you sky box to the aerial input on your kitchen TV. That way you will be able to watch sky in the kitchen, same channel as in living room though. You will also be able to watch recorded programs on your Sky+ box in your kitchen.

(I am assuming sky+ boxes have rf outputs and you can watch recorded programs on the RF out channel, I don't have a Sky+ box so I can't check)

Nickelson 05-01-2008 21:25

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whats your gamertag speedy?

Speedy 05-01-2008 22:10

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Dont have xbox live mate. Dont have internet connection at home, all my internet based shenanigans are done on my mobile.

grannyclaret 06-01-2008 00:20

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 513093)
I take it you can watch sky in your kitchen and so can record sky using your VCR in the kitchen.

Why do you record onto tape what you recorded onto your Sky+? Why don't you just watch the recorded program on Sky+ in the kitchen. Do you save the recorded programs to watch over and over and want to save space on the Sky+?

right,here goes,,,,in the living room we have 2 teles, one is a big digital one on which my hubby and son watch utter tripe ,,"NOW" poor little me has the other said tv&combi at the other end of the room with sky + with earphones on.which i can watch in comfort ..when i go to bed at night i usualy use the COPY option and put things onto tape that i have recorded over the day,such as loose women and various other programmes from sky....and watch them while i am making the tea etc,, on the tele in the kitchen which is also a combi but you can only tape what you watch,,,and dos'nt have sky ,,its worked out fine up to now ,,,,,but now i think i am going to have two redundent teles...:confused::confused::confused:

Neil 06-01-2008 01:16

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 513266)
when i go to bed at night i usualy use the COPY option and put things onto tape that i have recorded over the day,such as loose women and various other programmes from sky....and watch them while i am making the tea etc,, on the tele in the kitchen

Like I said above, you need to connect your sky+ box to the aerial input of your kitchen TV. Then you can watch sky on your kitchen TV and also watch programs you have recorded on the Sky+ box without having to tape it first. You can buy a second sky+ remote with a magic eye that will allow you to use the sky+ remote in the kitchen and control the sky+ box that is in the other room just like you do in the living room.

Here they are for sale SKY+KIT | UNBRANDED | Remote Controls & Infra Red Links | Aerials & Satellite | CPC

grannyclaret 06-01-2008 01:45

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Thanks Neil...:D

Sara 06-01-2008 13:27

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So basically does it mean if i have a freeview box my TV will be fine when the switchover arrives?

ZOMBIE 06-01-2008 14:41

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This digital switch over thing. Will my microwave still work? :confused:

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:03

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Originally Posted by Sara (Post 513356)
So basically does it mean if i have a freeview box my TV will be fine when the switchover arrives?

Yes, it will be fine, The freeview box is what does the magic for you. As mentioned in previous responses you might have issues if you have a video as well.

Likewise people with Sky boxes are fine. Its not the TV's that need changing, just the bit that receives a broadcasted signal and makes a picture from it.

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 513273)
Like I said above, you need to connect your sky+ box to the aerial input of your kitchen TV. Then you can watch sky on your kitchen TV and also watch programs you have recorded on the Sky+ box without having to tape it first. You can buy a second sky+ remote with a magic eye that will allow you to use the sky+ remote in the kitchen and control the sky+ box that is in the other room just like you do in the living room.

Here they are for sale SKY+KIT | UNBRANDED | Remote Controls & Infra Red Links | Aerials & Satellite | CPC

If running a wire is too much trouble then you can use a wireless sender. You do need to be careful as they need setting up so they don't interfere with wireless networks or if you have a DECT cordless phone. good ones will send the remote signal from the kitchen top the sky box as well.

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 512735)
I have two televisions, one already set up with a digi-box. I have that connected to a DVD/Video recorder.

I can only record programmes from terrestrial TV on the video. What will happen after the change over? Will I never again be able to record programmes whilst I'm out, or watching something else?

Dazed and confused.:confused:

Simpest way is to have two Freeview boxes. one for the video so you choose what you want to record on and another for what you want to watch live.

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 512629)
Im normally quite good with stuff like this but the switchover has me baffled. In our house both tvs are hooked up to freeview, does this mean we dont have to change anything? Good advice will be rewarded with karma.

if you have one freeview box for each TV then you will be able to watch TV on either. You don't mention any video recorders so I can't comment on how it will affect your ability to record stuff

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 512533)
If you have a HD TV is it worth connecting it with an HDMI cable, is there a visible difference ?
If it makes a difference then I might get one, they seem pricey though. Cryers in Accy say theirs range from £25 - £100, what would be the justification on going for the more expensive of the two ?


It depends on what the source is. If its HD (Sky HD or a HD capable DVD player) then definately. If its a DVD player that 'upscales' ( this means it takes a standard picture and trys to 'add detail' to make it HD) then probably not. the upsacling process isn't really HD, its a best guess which at best will be mediocre.

Cables are no where near that much unless you need 10m +

CPC have 1m HDMI cables from under a tenner. You don't need fancy cables for HDMI as its digital its either there or it isn't, signal degredation is not an issue.

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panther (Post 512507)
i have a digibox in my bedroom, but like sky, if its peeing down, thats it i cant watch half the channels!
is this to do with my crappy aerial on the roof or my crappy digibox?, cuz its doing my head in!

Probably a combination of aerial and cable. get a new one and it will be fine. The fact that the box does work means the digital to analog conversion is working fine. Some boxes DO have better signal to noise tolerance than other and this is where you get what you pay for.
Derekgas, your new TV probably just has a better tuner in it, it would benefit from checking the wire/aerial as you may still suffer issues at times of marginal signal

Neil 06-01-2008 19:38

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Originally Posted by ZOMBIE (Post 513372)
This digital switch over thing. Will my microwave still work? :confused:

It will but you will need to get a new aerial for it :rolleyes:

entwisi 06-01-2008 19:43

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They don't need aerials, Old dears next door does a cracking job of wiping out TV sender signals usually just as your about to find out whodunnit!

Neil 06-01-2008 19:47

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513499)
If running a wire is too much trouble then you can use a wireless sender. You do need to be careful as they need setting up so they don't interfere with wireless networks or if you have a DECT cordless phone. good ones will send the remote signal from the kitchen top the sky box as well.

You know I am a wired freak so am not really into wireless senders. When you work out the cost you might be able to get someone to wire it for you. You don't get interferance etc with wired and you don't have to worry about next door having the same wireless one and them finding out that you like to watch porn in the bedroom at night :rolleyes::eek::D

Neil 06-01-2008 19:50

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513501)
Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 512735)
I have two televisions, one already set up with a digi-box. I have that connected to a DVD/Video recorder.

I can only record programmes from terrestrial TV on the video. What will happen after the change over? Will I never again be able to record programmes whilst I'm out, or watching something else?

Dazed and confused.:confused:

Simpest way is to have two Freeview boxes. one for the video so you choose what you want to record on and another for what you want to watch live.

Simplest is really to get a freeview box with twin tuner and built in hard drive recorder. They are getting very reasonably priced now, look in Asda. Then you can record without using the VCR. You can still keep the VCR for when you want to watch your old Soft Cell video's.

Neil 06-01-2008 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513499)
If running a wire is too much trouble then you can use a wireless sender. You do need to be careful as they need setting up so they don't interfere with wireless networks or if you have a DECT cordless phone. good ones will send the remote signal from the kitchen top the sky box as well.

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513544)
They don't need aerials, Old dears next door does a cracking job of wiping out TV sender signals usually just as your about to find out whodunnit!

Enough said on wireless senders I think.

entwisi 06-01-2008 20:04

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To be fair I reckon its because its an old one, Ours downstairs doesn't do it and its fine teh vast majority of teh time

entwisi 06-01-2008 20:06

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 513550)
Simplest is really to get a freeview box with twin tuner and built in hard drive recorder. They are getting very reasonably priced now, look in Asda. Then you can record without using the VCR. You can still keep the VCR for when you want to watch your old Soft Cell video's.

I don't do videos at all, even DVDs I only ever rent. Siobhan has a load but me, Nope

Neil 06-01-2008 20:12

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513566)
I don't do videos at all, even DVDs I only ever rent. Siobhan has a load but me, Nope

I was refering to Gary mate. Last night I suggested that you could use another freeview box so you could record onto a VCR. In reality it is not much more expensive to buy one box that does it all compaired to two freeview boxes.

One point worth mentioning is that if you buy 2 freeviwe boxes, one for the TV and one for the VCR the remotes will operate both boxes at the same time if they are the same model of freeview box. Even if you buy different freeview boxes the remotes may still use the same codes. It is something worth thinking about if you are after another freeview box to use with a VCR in the same room as your TV's freeview box.

WillowTheWhisp 06-01-2008 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOMBIE (Post 513372)
This digital switch over thing. Will my microwave still work?

Oooh there's a thought! What about our alarm clocks!!! ;)

Bonnyboy 06-01-2008 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513508)
It depends on what the source is. If its HD (Sky HD or a HD capable DVD player) then definately. If its a DVD player that 'upscales' ( this means it takes a standard picture and trys to 'add detail' to make it HD) then probably not. the upsacling process isn't really HD, its a best guess which at best will be mediocre.

Cables are no where near that much unless you need 10m +

CPC have 1m HDMI cables from under a tenner. You don't need fancy cables for HDMI as its digital its either there or it isn't, signal degredation is not an issue.

Thanks for taking the time to respond

garinda 06-01-2008 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 513501)
Simpest way is to have two Freeview boxes. one for the video so you choose what you want to record on and another for what you want to watch live.

Thanks for that Entwisi.:)


Still a little confused though. On the ads on TV re: the change over, it said that you will only be able to record the programme you're watching.(?)

Nevermind. l have two TVs, so somehow I'll get to watch/record what I want to see.:rolleyes:

Neil 06-01-2008 22:29

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 513673)
Still a little confused though. On the ads on TV re: the change over, it said that you will only be able to record the programme you're watching.(?)

Nevermind. l have two TVs, so somehow I'll get to watch/record what I want to see.:rolleyes:

You would be better of buying a freeview box with built in recorder. One that can record one program while you watch another. They sell them in Asda, have a look next time your in (unless you are an M&S shopper).

Then you would have a freeview box for each TV and will be able to record what you want as well.

garinda 06-01-2008 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 513679)
You would be better of buying a freeview box with built in recorder. One that can record one program while you watch another. They sell them in Asda, have a look next time your in (unless you are an M&S shopper).

Then you would have a freeview box for each TV and will be able to record what you want as well.

Thanks, that's what I needed to know.:)

I make a point of not doing supermarkets, but will plan a little excursion, just this once.:D

Neil 07-01-2008 00:30

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Have a look at these mate

DAEWOO Digital Set Top Box DSD9503T - ASDA Electricals

Currys - Shop for Personal Video Recorder - Sagem DVR62160T DIGITAL TV RECORDER

You would need to check you can watch one and record another channel at the same time. Have a look round everyone is selling them know.

entwisi 07-01-2008 07:01

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Also keep your eye on hotukdeals.com as they come up on there quite often.

Retlaw 10-05-2008 22:24

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Hi Zombie
You want going with, Ive just spayed an insect with Raid that appeared on my monitor, and its you and your bugs. <GGGGGGG>
Retlaw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOMBIE (Post 513372)
This digital switch over thing. Will my microwave still work? :confused:


Lampman 01-11-2009 12:19

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Apologies if this has already been posted,this link helps with connecting varies TV equipment together.
Digital connection wizard, indoor digital aerial, best indoor tv aerial, Digital TV, recommended iDTVs, recommended set top boxes, Digital Switchover, Digital UK, Ricability


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