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cherokee 16-12-2008 11:05

Serious security flaw found in IE
 
Saw this on news 24 this morning.
BBC NEWS | Technology | Serious security flaw found in IE

MargaretR 16-12-2008 11:11

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I stopped using Internet Explorer several months ago.
I downloaded Mozella Firefox and I notice that I have by far less spyware to get rid of.
Firefox add ons let you transfer IE favourites, so you won't feel the loss when you transfer to using it.
Pages load faster too

cherokee 16-12-2008 11:13

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That was actually my next question, which would be the next best browser to use. Im looking at firefox atm.

Neil 16-12-2008 11:30

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Try Firefox it is one of the best about and getting very popular

SamF 16-12-2008 12:10

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Mmm... this feels almost as good as when the staff at PC World wronglytell me I need anti-virus software.

K-P 16-12-2008 12:22

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You have to go on a dodgy website for it to effect you. i dont think I will be swapping browsers anytime soon... All you people who use iffy websites and passwords to get into them are at risk.... cant believe some of the people on here use those sites and need a different browser.... wow :)

beechy 16-12-2008 12:36

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i use google chrome fast reliable alternative imho
:lamer:

K-P 16-12-2008 12:42

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Originally Posted by beechy (Post 660456)
i use google chrome fast reliable alternative imho
:lamer:

heard nice things.. not seen it though

cherokee 16-12-2008 13:08

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Well Im happy to say Im not one of those who use dodgy websites and never will be, but not takin no chances and have now gon over to firefox. Thanks Neil

K-P 16-12-2008 13:09

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not taking any chances that you might end up on a dodgy website and create an account ??????

Neil 16-12-2008 13:12

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Originally Posted by SamF (Post 660445)
Mmm... this feels almost as good as when the staff at PC World wronglytell me I need anti-virus software.

And why do you think you don't?

entwisi 16-12-2008 14:07

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bacuse he uses Linux?????

:D


Also try Opera as a browser, I find its more intuitive and has some nice features that OPera needs add ons etc to match.

At the end of the day, Its about trying as many as you can find and seeing which one suits you. Each person is wired slightly differently and ones mans poison etc.

K-P 16-12-2008 14:14

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 660468)
bacuse he uses Linux?????
.

now you have stumped him.. :)

Neil 16-12-2008 15:45

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 660469)
Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 660468)
bacuse he uses Linux?????

now you have stumped him.. :)

He has yes because there are Linux viruses as well.

K-P 16-12-2008 16:14

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But Linux users 100% believe they are imune to all harm ...because.....they are linux users :)

Neil 16-12-2008 16:48

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Originally Posted by K-P (Post 660484)
But Linux users 100% believe they are imune to all harm ...because.....they are linux users :)

I know. The geeky ones are probably safer. Its the normal people who have a go a Linux because people tell them its so good and do daft things like always log in as root because they don't think there is a problem with it.

Don't get me wrong I think Linux is good, I just have a problem getting it to install on the PC's I try it on :(

lancsdave 16-12-2008 16:53

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 660490)
Don't get me wrong I think Linux is good, I just have a problem getting it to install on the PC's I try it on :(


Does it need a PC ? I thought it was so good it would run on a dumb terminal ;):D

cashman 16-12-2008 21:33

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i switched from I.E. to firefox a couple of years ago, have found it much better, defo get less crap, also faster, only ever go on I.E. very rarely when whatever i happen to be on aint compatible with owt else only I.E. which is very rare.:)

entwisi 16-12-2008 22:20

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 660479)
He has yes because there are Linux viruses as well.

Point me at one in "live".............. certainly I'd like to see one capable of affecting my core install( my own files are fair game and as they should be properly backed up!)


with root comes responsibility, look at mandriva and Ubuntu and both make it difficult to "log in " as root. in fact you can't even find out the default root password which means that unless you know command line you aint becoming root no matter what.

The fact that I can deliberately and understandingly choose to take take total control of my system appeals to me. no more annoying " are you sure", "really Sure", "absolutely positive " messages for me! If choose to take that choice its up to me. e.g windows visa, make a change to a firewall config, its painful!!! UAC has done nothing fo rsecurity as its so painful most users turn it off without understanding what its doing.



PS, for those that don't know, "root" is a God user who can do absolutely ANYTHING in linux with no safety blanket, type "rm -rf / " and you competely delete the whole disk(and any network shares that are 'attached'), no recycle bin or anything.... however consider the power and used well its a god send.

want to rename thousands of files, no probs, if you want to do some serious work on your system then unlike windows its dead simple, root can do it. You should however never log in as root unless you know what you are doing and teh latest Linux do not let you unless you know what you are doing!!!!!!!!

entwisi 16-12-2008 22:23

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 660491)
Does it need a PC ? I thought it was so good it would run on a dumb terminal ;):D

just how intelligent is a microwave then? or a fridge or DVD or router or PVR.. or any of the other thousands of embedded devices that you don't even realise run it. I know you are more clued up than most, making fun is OK, just be sure to balance them with fairness........

Royboy39 16-12-2008 22:23

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Take a minute to look at this:

Major Web browsers fail password protection tests | Zero Day | ZDNet.com

entwisi 16-12-2008 22:24

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 660490)

Don't get me wrong I think Linux is good, I just have a problem getting it to install on the PC's I try it on :(

Happy to come and do it for you or anyone else in accy.....

Neil 17-12-2008 07:19

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 660612)
Happy to come and do it for you or anyone else in accy.....

It's on a machine I am playing with at work mate but thanks for the offer.

Neil 17-12-2008 07:21

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 660610)
just how intelligent is a microwave then? or a fridge or DVD or router or PVR.. or any of the other thousands of embedded devices that you don't even realise run it. I know you are more clued up than most, making fun is OK, just be sure to balance them with fairness........

That's why I have it on 6 devices......that I know of.

One of them is even a PC :rolleyes:

K-P 17-12-2008 09:54

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 660609)
PS, for those that don't know, "root" is a God user who can do absolutely ANYTHING


I used to have ssh access with root password to a lot of major servers.. But I can tell you a situation wiht even more power than you descibed..

Stood in the middle of telehouse surrounded by the internet backbone and knowing ten minutes with a small pair of cutters would bring the country to a standstill.. an hour later same thing at redbus

On the floor with all the racks of internet servers.. they are all in what look like lockers... but on the floor in the corner are the new unused lockers waiting for servers and all have two keys taped to them.. individual and a master.. anyone could lift a master key..

Plug your laptop into one of them and download a film in seconds :)

accyman 17-12-2008 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 660445)
Mmm... this feels almost as good as when the staff at PC World wronglytell me I need anti-virus software.

lol never ever listen to anything them muppets tell you

they are very proud of norton internet security and push it on you with stories of how it can protect you completely

my brother bought norton under their advise and i slapped him hard around the head for been a thicko

i uninstalled his very expensive norton internet security and antivirus software and installed the free avast home edition antivirus which picked up 2 viruses and 56 trojans that norton quite happily let past its security

avast is also better than AVG which recently crashed thousands of peoples computers when installing a botched update from AVG deleting a needed boot file leaving computers unable to start up upon restart and also avast dosnt slow down your computers performance as much

as far as free antivirus software goes avast is becoming the more popular choice and is a lot better than a lot of expensive alternatives

if you are using norton try avast and see the difference in your computers performance increase

Neil 17-12-2008 10:39

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I have been in an IT building for one of my previous employers.

It was really 2 buildings next to each other with an extra outer wall about 3 feet from the two buildings. From the outside it looking like one. It looked like it was military except it had no machine guns.

Inside everything was duplicated. If the main or backup mains supplies went down everything was backup up by UPS rooms.

The pair of diesel generators were kept warm using oil heaters. If the batteries failed to start the diesels then they were started using compressed air which as blown down 2 of the cylinders to turn the engines over. Big air receivers held the air in case they needed to start them this way.

It was very impressive and this was only the companies backup facility. The main facility was several miles away, they would not say where as only a handful of people know the location of both. They were not happy with the distance between them and were worried a natural (or not) disaster might take them both out. There were in the process of planning a new facility hundreds of miles away to be the backup. When the first were built the technology for fast comms over that distance was not available.

cherokee 17-12-2008 11:15

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Well it looks like they been working round the clock to fix it .

BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft plans quick fix for IE

panther 17-12-2008 13:33

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Right, I have just installed Firefox on my computer, after nearly everyone boasting about it:rolleyes:

What i want to know is where is the email logo?? (outlook express)
I had in IE, but cant find it on here, where or how do i get it on, or do i have to click start and get it that way?
This is gonna get some getting used to, because at the moment it doesnt appeal to me:(

Neil 17-12-2008 14:20

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you have to go up the start menu you. You could always copy the shortcut from the start menu to your desktop to make it easy for you.

entwisi 17-12-2008 14:44

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why don't more people use the quicklaunch toolbar. At work where I am forced to use Windows I find it invaluable.

For those that don't know what it is , think a small toolbar that is part of your taskbar where you can have 'buttons' for all your regularly used applications, this way you don't have to minimise all your windows to get to your desktop to find that application shortcut, its there all the time. You can even get it to do a cascading windows explorer function to open files quickly and easily from anywhere on your PC or even network shares.

To turn it on, hover over the taskbar, right click, choose "Toolbars" - "Quicklaunch". It comes with certain buttons preconfigured, just drag a shortcut from any application to it to add them, you can arrange them however you like.

Neil 17-12-2008 15:33

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I use quick launch but at work everything is fixed so you can't

K-P 17-12-2008 15:48

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I use quick launch, always have and I ahve NO icons on my desktop.. never had... before quick luanch i used the menu system anyways... never liked icons on destops.

MargaretR 17-12-2008 18:31

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I have just downloaded and installed Microsft's emergency update

panther 17-12-2008 18:37

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cheers margaret was wandering when that will happen, is it safe to use now IE?

MargaretR 17-12-2008 18:39

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 660823)
cheers margaret was wandering when that will happen, is it safe to use now IE?

Well - Microsoft would like you to think so - but I will continue to use Firefox most of the time.

panther 17-12-2008 18:58

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Well iv just downloaded the update and went back on IE, but found now i come to think of it, IE is a lot slower than firefox, so I might stay on Firefox for now, and see if i can get used to it;)

cherokee 17-12-2008 19:22

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Well im now using firefox and Im impressed at the speed of it.
I am getting used to it so think i will be staying put.


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