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Must say its rather snappy!

And lets be honest, 50 mins on my Laptop to do the full upgrade and I didn't even lose a stored password or anything......


If only Windows could manage such an upgrade.... ( Think XP to Vista is equivilant level of upgrade)

Once again, I'm sorry to rub it in but this is how it should be.

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Whats that?

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I will be at weekend :D

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They are talking in geek for upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu :D

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Upgraded desktop and the netbook, both went smoothly and everything seems Ok

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aye, seems good, you finding it any snappier or is it just me?

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Yeah things do seem a little quicker

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The Ubuntu text and the bar on the start/shut down screens are far too small though don't you think

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Runs pretty well, will do until I make another attempt at arch when my exams are over. Last time I got as far as installing openbox but just couldnt be bothered configuring it from there :P Year on and a lot more UNIX knowledge I'm hoping it'll go better because I'm loving the rolling release.

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Splash screens on mine seem OK but tbh its a splash screeen so of nbo importance to me. You can always replace it with a custom image of your own. :D

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have they released a live cd version for it?

Last live CD I found was years ago, just wont run on my laptop.

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All ubuntu releases since at least 8.04 and I'm pretty sure well before them have been live cd's

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Yep, they have been Live CDs for ages. I have on really low spec stuff had to use the Xubuntu version a couple of times but its not difficult.

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I don't know who you are and I don't care, but when the real entwisi comes on and discovers an imposter has been posting under his user name your life won't be worth living.

Would you like to know how I know you are a fraud? Very simple, the REAL entwisi has been coming on here telling us that Linux is best and Ubunto is the perfect platform to run on a P.C. and yet you claim to have done not just an update but a full upgrade.

Well let me tell you, your claim is blindingly fraudulent, perfection cannot be improved upon so whoever you are stop using entwisis' name in vain and could the mod's please remove this thread that is blackening the reputation of one of our most popular contributers!

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The last time I ordered a cd there was no live cd available.
I think that was around V7

I can't see a live cd now either and I am downloading the 64 bit version.

And the 32 bit version.

IS the download a live CD?

I'd really like to be able to use this on my laptop instead.

I dont use even a 1/4 of the crap thats in Vista.

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yes, all CDs are Live CDs

it has the option on boot to run as a live CD or to be an install CD. If you load as a live CD you then also have the option to install from the running system


Re Less....

Perfection is based on current vision, how can you know what other wonders are available untill you experience them. it still stands as perfection on todays knowledge irrespective of any potential improvements that could be there.


as it is it does a full release in less time than Vista can copy 2 files across a network..... :D:D:D:D

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Oh dear a man of selective memory, may I ask you to cast your mind back a few years and you will remember that I was setting up a Compaq dual core Computer to run Fedora 4 core, So I have had experience of linux in fact that Computer is still with me and working fine on that platform.

It was around the time when someone set up accy linux site to assist those of us just starting the great adventure of reaching the computer equivalent of Nirvana.
I had a problem though after my first install the P.C. would boot but end up with a blank screen, the expert from the above site offered to call over and set it up for me,.
When he arrived I told him I suspected the drivers for the grotty Compaq graphics card, I was poo, pood for even thinking such a thing and after 20 minutes the expert announced that the platform I was trying to mount was far too complex for a beginner such as I and he would supply me with an all singing all dancing copy of Ubunto that would be better suited to my needs.

Well I can tell you I'm still awaiting his return with the disk(s) but between myself boldly going where a Windows 98 guy, (yes it was that long ago), shouldn't foolishly go and a very patient Mick we fixed the drivers for the graphics card.

Perhaps the moral to this story is NEVER rely on someone that claims to be a Linux Guru they could just be a false technical God and we should all sometimes work with our own natural abilities and go for the first logical suspicion and fix the darned thing ourselves!
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woo, been on the grumpy pills again Less?

My recollection of that day are rather different. suffice to say I'm not even going to argue any differences as there has obviously been many days that you could have asked again to clarify any misunderstandings........

I'm glad you are happily using said PC and are obviously happy with the reliability etc of it.

now lets get back on thread or Mick will be deleting the thread wander as he usually does.

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Bringing the thread back...

I downloaded both 32 & 64 bit, it actually runs on my laptop.

Not finding he network though, I can see I have to add it.
Is there no "search for a wireless network" function?

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And I wont even ask how to dual boot it yet :D

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So give your recollection of what happened.

I am only trying to remind you of what did happen, anyone that wishes to read the blemish about Accy linux feel free to google, but be prepared for nothing but spam and porn sites, you might have forgotten but most of us with Windows have transferred our favourites to our newer Computers.

I am not a God or a guru or anything else people claim to be, I only try to help people from the beginning which let's face it is Windows.

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And I said ages ago that it had been abandoned as I had lost teh password and the sites admins would not reset it.

Feel free to be as arsey as you want, you are just looking peevish and silly now.

I'm quite comfortable with teh amount of help I have and continue to provide to people so it makes little difference in my world.


Re Matty lad, has it identified your wifi card? there should be an icon of 2 computers. Hover over them(if there is more than 1) and see if one looks like a wireless connection ( wlan0 )

Try left clicking them. If they are wifi it will show a list of all available networks. choose teh one you want, enter network key if required and away you go.

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Where would I find the icon entwisi ?

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Found it - posting from the 64 bit live cd :D

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Excellent!

So are you going to allow it some of your disk space?

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not quite yet. :D

I need to tackle the long list of programs that I need to run on it or how to install it on my laptop alongside Vista first.

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The latter is what I meant as in are you going to allow it to install in Dual boot mode.

If you let me know a list o programs you want and I'll try and let you know what the equivilant is in Linux.(and what choices you have)

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How about an equivalent to Visual Studio so I can write my .net software in Linux?

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but why would you want to write .net anyway :D

but in answer to your Q Main Page - Mono

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To use on Windows PC's

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heh, who'd want to use one of those :D

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People with no choice because I can't program several different PLC's with Linux

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One program I'd want is "Cadstar for Windows" and thats not available on Linux (PCB program).

Although the other tasks the laptop does is mainly web browsing so dual booting would be fine.

Oh and detecting when an SD card is plugged in & moving the images to the HDD.
I can use th installed Gimp instead of photoshop.

Can it dual boot and still use the NTFS C: drive normally (without boogering it up) ?

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Hmm, I think it's a case of start with.
Backing up.
Then shrink the volume to create space for Ubuntu.

THen follow [urlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot]thisi[/url] or this guides.

Problem will be in finding the 10gb to free up in the first place :D

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quick, you almost have a new convert here :D

would I need something like AVG/spywareblaster etc?
what about reading PDF's ?

I have found my printer driver, do I want a "Debian Linux" or "RPM Linux" driver?

what about CD writing etc?
I currently use Nero 8.

this is sounding too easy.

Maybe I'll start to backup stuff soon :D

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Easiest way is to resize C: drive making space to add the Linux partitions after the Windows partition.

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OK, in turn.

CADSTAR may work fine under Wine or crossover Office even under Linux. If you have a copy I'll happily try it on mine.

mounting memory cards works just fine unless you have some really weird card reader.

The Ubuntu disk can do all the shrinking/Dual boot/ etc for you even with NTFS. And yes, its now fully read/write safe from Linux.

AVG nope, Spyblaster - nope, no need for any of these things. If you want to be really friendly to your mates etc you can install and AV to scan so you don't accidentally forward an already infected email that you have received ( but obviously had no effect under Linux)

PDFs there are a number of PDF readers under Linux installed by default or you can run Adobe acrobat under Wine if you really must :D

Are you certain your printer driver isn't there by default? One of the differences is that Linux uses modules that can be dynamically loaded when you plug a printer etc in so you may find that its supported already without the need for 'drivers'. You may find them offered for download for the geeks that compile their own stuff from source code for everything.

For reference though Ubuntu uses the Debian .deb format for binary packages. but you are better using the Synaptic Package manager to install stuff as it will then automatically check and upgrade it when new stable versions are released.

CD writing - K3B is my personal tool of choice but there are others as well. 9.04 has Brasero as default. You may need to install the non free MP3 codecs if you want to burn Mp3s to Audio CD or to rip CDs. This is purely a licensing issue in that Linux won't install non free stuff by default and you have to do it yourself.

One thing of note is that under Linux you usually have a choice of tool very much like under Windows but without the need to install dodgy copies to see which you prefer. If you really want to you can usually do a lot of stuff very easily from Command line if you are happy with typing text.

e.g. I downloaded a load of pictures from my DSLR and wanted a 'smaller' copy for use on web pages. change to teh directory the files were in

convert -resize 800x600 *.jpg

wait 30 secs or so

done.

Happy to help if you have any more Q's either here or on MSN(details on my profile page) etc.

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It always makes me smile that you actually use MSN :D

You can't get more Microsoft that using their IM network

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Why? I don't use any Microsoft software to do it? its just a protocol to me. like speaking French or Spanish. I may be British through and through but I'm still as equally happy with the result of "deux bierres si vous plait" as I am with "same again". plus teh other choice involves teh letters A O and L and I'd even say that thats worse!!!!

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MSN id not just a protocol, it works by using Microsoft servers

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but you don't need an msn or hotmail accouint to sign on, I just use the one I've had for ~ 10 years from when I used to occasionally use Windows.

IIRC Hotmail used to run on Unix till they were found out and Bill forced them to move them. :D

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OK cheers Ian.

Now I'm armed with the info I'll leave it till I can make the space needed.
I think I'll have to do some archiving first. :D

I'm also checking if my Freecycle tool runs well under Linux etc, should do as it uses Firefox & Java. I have the guy who wrote it to help with that though. :D

Cheers.
Matty

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Java is platform independant ( I should know, I'm a java Developer by trade) and as is firefox so I don't forsee any issues unless teh java has itself been written to tie to Windows ( i.e. using windows file paths etc )

Well, let us know when you are ready to take teh plunge.!

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Heres a good list of alternative programs to use Windows and OS X Software Alternatives | Linux App Finder

For back ups I use Quickstart QuickStart • Index page

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No, No, No, I can't resist, which trade? Mechanic? Chef? I.T.? Cellar Man? Etc, Etc?

I only learnt one, and I didn't think I came top of the class at that one but...
:confused:

Sorry entwisi, I tried not to be tempted!
:o

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HOw do we go about reducing the partition size in XP?
will the Ubuntu install do it?

My son wants to install it too but he is on XP.

He has bags of space to spare :D

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I usually do it manually with a g parted live cd but ubuntu will do it

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Personally I'd let Ubuntu do it.

Re Less, not really sure what yuo are trying to say there!!! :D

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So it can shrik the already installed volume/partition on XP OK?

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Yes, if you use it correctly.

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yep, as Neil confirmed it can shrink etc all fine.

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OK, might experiment on my sons pc first.

He can stand a mishap, I cant otherwise Freecycle would collapse :D

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I have run it off a 2gb usb key and also on a partition on an sdcard and also the livecd, faultless apart from some problems with continuation whilst putting it on the sd, i should really spend more time in it but have been testing win7 of late which i cant fault yet;)

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Wow!! have they managed to cure the virus and spyware issue that plagues every other version of windows?

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You're talking silly now. Only Linux could do that!:rolleyes:

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Is there a linux guru on here that can help me create an image of a hard drive & save it onto DVD?

I have a Lacie Network Drive (500gb) that was el cheapo when Asda were selling them off that I have removed the drive from the case so my son can use the drive on his PC, however I want to create an image so that I can put another drive in the case & use it myself.
Its a SATA drive.

I have had a look with the Linux Ghost boot disk but am at a loss to understand it and am getting desperate to do this before he goes off to uni in a couple of weeks.

Cheers,
Matty

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How much data is there on the disk? Will you need to span several disks? Is there a logical folder structure you could use as partitioning?

If you can it would be easier if you could fit the source disk inside a PC as a slave and squirt the image directly to the new disc in the case.

If you aren't bothered about a flashy gui program the command line "dd" tool is the tool of choice.

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There is 700mb of data on the 500gb drive, but 670mb of that is taken up by an AVI file that can be deleted (only I dont know how to - ubuntu wouldnt).

So when thats gone I want to fit it onto a DVD so that it can then be put back on a replacement drive
and the replacement drive put in the box for me while my son gets the 500gb drive in his PC.

I have a ubuntu pc in my sons room but none of us are that clued up on Linux.

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30 meg? is that all? have you not got a usb stick or anything? I'd even say it will be quicker to email than faf around with burning a DVD.

Do you know how to use FTP? if you do I'dd create an account on some webspace and you can dump it up there.

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Did you miss this bit Ian "I have a ubuntu pc in my sons room but none of us are that clued up on Linux."?

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what bit of using FTP is Linux mate? or even USB or email?

not clued up on Linux doesn't mean they wouldn't know about FTP :D

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Running the client :rolleyes:

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err, windows do clients and teh CLI one in DOS is prettymuch identical to CLI one in Linux....

it was more about if he knew how to put and get files from an FTP Server.

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I do not want to copy the data off, I want to clone the entire setup so that it can be copied to a new disk
so that a new disk will act as a server as the existing one does.

It is one of these and there is a forum here devoted to them.

But they are linux people & us windows users cant talk that ling :D

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I'll have a shufty tomorrow and come back to you, its far more than teh data you mentioned,

I may need to ask you some other Qs as I investigate what you need


Ian

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second attempt---- Dam you work internet proxy authentication

basically its a mini linux PC running a weird/unhelpful config which will make your life a little harder. its not a single 'image' that can be copied across as per your original thought

basically the disk is partitioned with 4 'main' partitions

one for your data ( listed as /dev/sdb2 in teh partition table on teh wiki )
3 for the OS

/dev/sdb7 is teh 'core OS'
/dev/sdb8 is the custom interface etc

teh above 2 stay static and never change

/dev/sdb9 is where all your config and teh day to day stuff 'runs'

so to achieve what you want to you will need to do teh following

get a blank disk
partition it as per the listed part table
format ( for safety I would use teh same ext3/xfs mix they did )
then you need to deal with each of teh partitions in their own right

if you have a PC that can take both source and target disks in addition to its own host ( LINUX/ OSX/*NIX needed ) OS then you can do it easily on teh fly using teh dd command specifying source and target partitions.

it sounds quite complex but isn't really, just a bit fiddly and time consuming and you need to be critically careful when doing the copy or you could splat the good disk with teh empty one and lose it all.

all in in a decent desktop PC you probably couild do it in a couple of hours


maybe not what you wanted to hear and with disks being relavitely cheap it may not be worth your time/effort it all depends on how much you value 2-3 hours of your life at.

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Thanks for that but yes your right, it does look complicated.

An external USB HDD case is only about £15 so I may as well go for that option instead... lol
Maybe one day someone else will have an image & I'll have a spare SATA drive & maybe we can get together with them .... lol