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according to this there will be about 15000 file sharers who will be getting letters through their door in the new year about 'illegal file sharing'

BBC News - Lawyers target thousands of 'illegal' file-sharers

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It only mentions games and films. Does it apply to music as well i wonder??

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I am sure it will yes.

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Hmm, methinks they would have to provide me with some proof and not just an IP address.

If its porn I was accused of then I'd want a copy to refresh my memory :D

Having a wireless router, which at the time of the accused offence was unrestricted I would not be able to say who it was that did the deed. ;)

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You would obviously then have to share the copy of porn :D

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nothing to worry about it here its aklll hot air and puffing out tehir chests , unless they physically get the comuter off you and prove you have the files on your computer they cant do jack sh1t .

this issue came up on whatchdog where peopel were wrongly been accused by tehir providers of downloading illigal files etc andf teh top soliciotor they got on te job stated that they have to physically catch you with teh files on yur computer because anyone could have downloaded the files wether it been a family member or somone hacking into your wireless connection

basically these letters are sent out to scare people into stopping but in reality prosecuting you is very very unlikely infact if your provider starts to give you greif just switch to another one

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so being a numpty, whats a filesharer?:confused:

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The new regulations are pretty draconian..
"including the "three-strikes" rule that allows your entire family to be cut off from the net if anyone who lives in your house is accused of copyright infringement, without proof or evidence or trial"
I not sure if the above statement is true but here is the article I got it from:

Britain's new Internet law -- as bad as everyone's been saying, and worse. Much, much worse. - Boing Boing

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most common filesharing is downloading music,films or images and then passing them on to someone or uploading them to a website etc.

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hehe file sharer being the ones making the effort for files being available in the first place hehe

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Unfortunately it is true, which is why I'm totally against it. Sharing material illegally should remain against the law, but somebody should be charged and put on trial if they are accused, not disconnected with no evidence.

In Hull we only have one internet provider. They started doing this here, just disconnecting people without warning or without providing evidence. They were forced to stop.. under this law they'd be allowed, forced.. to continue.

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it also depends on how much of a damn your provider gives about what you do on the internet, virgin i believe have tried to crack down on mainly torrent users and will threaten you with diconection but they do have a big self interest in stopping music piracey , BT simply slow your connection down at peak times if you download too much

most internet providers wont even look at your account unless somone reports to them that you are downloading things you shoudlnt and because with torrents you are opening your computer up to teh world it is very easy for them to see what you are doing once they connect to the same source as what you are and then contact your provider to complain

if you look in your torrent application it will show all the ip addresses of computers you are conected to sometimes with a countries flag next to it and one of them could be a govenment agency from anywhere in the world

peerguardian is a legal application that you run while using torrents to reduce the chances of conecting to govenment agency or suspect computers but its not %100 fool proof so if you must use open torrent sites you do so at your own risk and have no one to blame but yourself if you get catched lol

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with wireless internet dongles this law is pretty much impossible to enforce, i can get an o2 pay as you go pda sim card with free unlimited internet usage for a year and put it into a 3 pay as you go dongle for example and surf my heart out at very little cost

yes they may be able to stop somone getting a landline internet connection but they could not keep somone off teh internet for long because of all the methods there are of getting internet access these days especialy pay as you go dongles

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The other thing I find interesting is that quite a few people are using hacked modems that are almost untraceable. I say almost because they would have to trace you down to an area and then start disconnecting customers until the connection in question went down. Very time consuming so very expensive.
Also from my poor understanding of how it works they would assume it was the legal customer who was fire sharing first anyway so the wrong person could be accused.

As far as someone else using your WiFi, I am not sure if you would get away with that as an excuse.

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the ironic thing is that most of the cloned modems and chipped boxes for free virgin media comes from their employees making extra cash

their best sales pitch is buy a minimum package or reduce your already existing package and buy a second box of them that allows all channels even pay per view events for free

i know for a fact that when it was ntl an employee could reconnect the feed to a house if it had been doosonected and because it was listed as inactive teh person in that house didnt even need to be a ntl customer they could have internet and tv for free and virgin are running the same system they just took over and renamed the company

virgin media should look a little closer to home before punishing their customers lol

i dont know how they havnt solved this problem its been going on since the system was started and called cable and wireless then ntl and then virgin .

i dont find it reassuring at all that a vigin media employee can sell a list of mac addresses of active modems which coudl result in a pervert getting a cloned modem resulting in said pervert surfing and transfering kiddi porn annonymously on an innocent customers account

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The cost of sorting out I think. If they fix the system so the hacked boxes don't work they know people will have to pay for TV then and most would go with Sky :D

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true , they still dont have an interactive menu that works propperly after all these years they just simply keep trying to tweak a system that clearly dosnt work properly.Im not up to date with virgin as i moved away from their service area but it seems all they did was take ntl's menu and make it black and yellow instead of blue and white and everyone with virgin i know says the interactive stuff freezes constantly

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iplayer on the v boxes work really well. Don't use the other interactive services. I still have a Sky box because Rhonda prefers Sky News interactive. I can also use it for the free channels now analogue is dead.

It is wrong to be punished for a crime without a trial.

I told this story before on here - I used to run a direct connect peer to peer hub when I was with Pipex. My upload ran flat out for 2 years running it but Pipex did not care. One day my broadband was off so I contacted them - it was the first time in over a year it had ever disconnected (I could tell by hub uptime). They told me I had been disconnect for downloading a movie. I asked for details. A company working for one of the movie companies had told them so they disconnected me. I told Pipex they had it all wrong and that I had not downloaded that movie on the date they said - I had actually downloaded in a year earlier ;)

I told them the other person had uploaded it from me and that I was not happy they had disconnected me because of false information. I had to fax a signed letter saying I would be a good boy in the future. I am still a good boy now :D

This was at least 4 years a go.

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torrents have gotten really popular over the past 6 or 7 years but they are one hell of a quick way to get caught because movie companies etc have access to the same sites so can easily get your ip and contact your supplier

regardless of whatever law is been broken though guilt without proof or trial is not democratic and i hate to say this but shouldnt any conviction as such fall apart if taken to the european court ? Im ot a big fan of teh european court but when our govenment has become so corrupt it may be a good thing its actually there

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BBC News - Internet service providers urge changes to digital bill

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LMFAO at the part hwere they are putting new age ratings on games , anyone who has worked at game or game station will tell you that after refusing to sell an 8 year old a 18 rated game their mother or father will run up to the counter screaming at them for not doing so then buy it themselves for their 8 year old and this problem isnt related to just a few parents its teh majority of them

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Indeed. Why are there no age restrictions on books? As a 12 year old I could have quite easily got ahold of a book that probably wasn't at all appropriate, as we know books can be far more 'graphic' than video games. I think it's just an issue of an older generation of MPs not really understanding the games industry. You only need to look at the mass hysteria brought up by the recent Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 to see that.

As far the Digital Economy Bill, I have numerous problems with it.

• Disconnecting for an 'alleged' offence without evidence or trial is wrong.
• It would punish a household, not just the individual. For example a student house of 10 individuals could be disconnected from the internet due to the alleged activities of one individual.
• Wireless routers, secured and easily accessible or unsecured and many easily crackable, allow for somebody to use your line to commit the act. Who will be punished? The household who own the broadband connection, not the person who committed it.
• This problem extends to open wi-fi hotspots such as McDonalds, pubs, etc. The broadband subscriber and not the user would be the one punished.

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im not %100 sure if ths is still the case but an under 18 or possibly 21 now cant buy a knife but can go to a D.I.Y store and buy an axe, a rope and a large bucket.

as for games they need to get realistic, call of duty are war games and were suitably rated but the new one suddenly got rated an 18 which is ridiculous, however an 18 rating for grand theft auto games is definatly justifiable as in one of teh series of games one of teh missions was to get a prostitute , sleep with it then kill her and take your money back yet i bet most of teh parents demanding tehir 12 year old be sold this game were not aware of this:rolleyes:

how do you enforce ratings on computer games when parents simply buy 18 rated games for their kids for a quiet life

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It is 18 and totally stupid. You can get married at 16 but you can't go out and buy a kitchen knife.

You can work but can't buy the tools you need.

Crazy brainless Politicians. Make the punishment fit the crime don't ban every thing.