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kestrelx 12-11-2011 15:42
Kodak Printers Claims!
 
Anyone seen the TV ad for the new Kodak printers that are supposed to have cheaper printer cartridges and do more printing?

Kodak Inkjet Beautifully Cheap Printing UK TV Advert - Director's Cut - YouTube

I bought one and it seems to be the exact opposite, I hardly used it compared to my Hewlett Packard one and the meters were coming up telling me I was low on ink when I'd hardly used it!

Anyone else had this happen?

cashman 12-11-2011 17:40
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well it aint good to take any notice of ads Kestrel.

Margaret Pilkington 12-11-2011 17:43
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Perhaps the printer was sold to you with one of those small cartridges in it.
I have always preferred HP printers.....and people tell me thi inks are expensive, but I get mine from the cartridge people(not HP originals, but Hp compatibles) and have always been quite happy with both performance and price.

Mick 13-11-2011 05:56
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If its brand new the first set of cartridges will not be full they will only have enough in them for a few prints most printers come with low amounts of ink in the first set of cartridges try another set and work on there output.

jaysay 13-11-2011 09:30
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I always used HP, but this time I got a Cannon, cheap and nasty and the first cartridge lasted 9 months

kestrelx 14-11-2011 16:53
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Originally Posted by mick (Post 947328)
If its brand new the first set of cartridges will not be full they will only have enough in them for a few prints most printers come with low amounts of ink in the first set of cartridges try another set and work on there output.

Mmmm - the new HP one I got lasted ages, so the cartridges must have been full and that was the case with a Lexmark I purchased before that. Perhaps it may be the case with the Kodak - but it hasn't actually run out yet - but the meters are showing that it's almost empty when I've hardly used it that much yet compared to the HP which has gone a lot longer.

Gordon Booth 14-11-2011 17:24
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I have a Canon and the 'empty cartridge' lights start flashing long before they run out- I reckon they're half full when the warnings start.

jaysay 14-11-2011 17:54
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 948020)
I have a Canon and the 'empty cartridge' lights start flashing long before they run out- I reckon they're half full when the warnings start.
Ya I was using mine for months went it was telling me the ink was low Gordon

phil8715 14-11-2011 22:56
If I get a low ink warning I normally remove it, give it a shake then put it back in.

That normally gets a few months out of the ink.

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kestrelx 28-11-2011 16:58
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 948040)
Ya I was using mine for months went it was telling me the ink was low Gordon
I think it could be the meters reading wrong that the ink is low - perhaps it's a fault of the printer?

jaysay 28-11-2011 17:47
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 952503)
I think it could be the meters reading wrong that the ink is low - perhaps it's a fault of the printer?
Its brand new, well 11 months old

kestrelx 09-12-2011 16:54
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They have also made it so you can't use it unless both cartridges are full. So when you only want to use black ink you have to get a color one else it won't work! Never had this before on other printers!

jaysay 09-12-2011 18:01
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 954788)
They have also made it so you can't use it unless both cartridges are full. So when you only want to use black ink you have to get a color one else it won't work! Never had this before on other printers!
Ive just changed the black cartridge in my cannon and the colours still going strong, if Kodak are doing that its shooting their claims out of the sky the cheating gits

Studio25 13-12-2011 19:49
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 947328)
If its brand new the first set of cartridges will not be full they will only have enough in them for a few prints most printers come with low amounts of ink in the first set of cartridges try another set and work on there output.
I recently bought a replacement HP printer for work - the cartridges in the broken one still contained ink, so I used those in the replacement. When it came time to replace them, I used the cartridges that had been in the new printer box: They yielded the same number of prints as we get from separately-bought cartridges.

If you think about it, it's not a good idea for companies to short-change you on the ink that comes with the printer. Generally, consumer printers are cheap because the companies make their money in the ink sales. If the consumer gets the impression that the ink will not last long, the printer will be expensive to run, and it might be more cost-effective to ditch the printer and go with a different manufacturer.

I reckon that most of the time, any "loss" of ink in a new printer is down to tubes being charged with ink.

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 947177)
Anyone seen the TV ad for the new Kodak printers that are supposed to have cheaper printer cartridges and do more printing... the meters were coming up telling me I was low on ink when I'd hardly used it!
As mentioned above, if the printer is cheap, the printer company makes its money on ink. If you spent more than £80-£100 on the printer, then you're right to feel upset that it's got through the ink quickly.

kestrelx 16-12-2011 11:11
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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 955761)
I recently bought a replacement HP printer for work - the cartridges in the broken one still contained ink, so I used those in the replacement. When it came time to replace them, I used the cartridges that had been in the new printer box: They yielded the same number of prints as we get from separately-bought cartridges.

If you think about it, it's not a good idea for companies to short-change you on the ink that comes with the printer. Generally, consumer printers are cheap because the companies make their money in the ink sales. If the consumer gets the impression that the ink will not last long, the printer will be expensive to run, and it might be more cost-effective to ditch the printer and go with a different manufacturer.

I reckon that most of the time, any "loss" of ink in a new printer is down to tubes being charged with ink.


As mentioned above, if the printer is cheap, the printer company makes its money on ink. If you spent more than £80-£100 on the printer, then you're right to feel upset that it's got through the ink quickly.
Especially when they have and advert on TV claiming you get more printing out of less ink in their new printer system!

kestrelx 17-12-2011 14:25
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 954803)
Ive just changed the black cartridge in my cannon and the colours still going strong, if Kodak are doing that its shooting their claims out of the sky the cheating gits
Jaysay I have tried several times to print a letter and the printer always says "you need a new color cartridge!" and then tells me there is some black ink still in black cartridge! That's the first printer I've ever had that does this - so your are right - cheating gits!

kestrelx 30-12-2011 16:09
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Kodak are now offering me free Printer Cartridges.

jedimaster 30-12-2011 16:20
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I swear by my epson, I buy cheap replacement cartridges from the market (£8.00 a full set- all individual colours) I only have to replace the individual colour when it runs out and the photo quality printing is as good as lab printing. by making sure i have the right settings on the printer for the job the ink lasts ages too

katex 01-01-2012 21:19
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Whoops, just bought a Kodak scanner and printer ... well, it has this pretty yellow stripe which colour co-ordinates with my room... :)

Retlaw 01-01-2012 22:22
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 956502)
Jaysay I have tried several times to print a letter and the printer always says "you need a new color cartridge!" and then tells me there is some black ink still in black cartridge! That's the first printer I've ever had that does this - so your are right - cheating gits!
If you look on the back of a printer cartridge, there is a gold dooffer, that resembles a miniature sim card, thats where the problem lies, try gently cleaning it with a bit of paper tissue, same with the contacts it touches in the printer, a minute amount of verdigris will give a false reading.

jaysay 02-01-2012 09:04
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 959667)
Whoops, just bought a Kodak scanner and printer ... well, it has this pretty yellow stripe which colour co-ordinates with my room... :)
Typical woman:rolleyes:

kestrelx 04-01-2012 15:47
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 959675)
If you look on the back of a printer cartridge, there is a gold dooffer, that resembles a miniature sim card, thats where the problem lies, try gently cleaning it with a bit of paper tissue, same with the contacts it touches in the printer, a minute amount of verdigris will give a false reading.
Too late now I replaced them. I have never had the problem before with numerous other printers! :D

davebtelford 04-01-2012 18:32
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HELP! - my Lexmark printer started playing up. If I try to print a letter it sounds like it's working but just chucks out a blank sheet. For a crossword it will print the grid but misses out the numbers and the clues. It will photocopy OK so I don't think it's a problem with the ink. ANY IDEAS?

Retlaw 04-01-2012 19:22
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 960127)
HELP! - my Lexmark printer started playing up. If I try to print a letter it sounds like it's working but just chucks out a blank sheet. For a crossword it will print the grid but misses out the numbers and the clues. It will photocopy OK so I don't think it's a problem with the ink. ANY IDEAS?
Find your disc & try reinstalling as a new printer.

davebtelford 04-01-2012 19:32
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I think the black ink cartridge is duff - it will print colour. The thing I copied looked black but on closer inspection is probably just a dark colour shade.

(Think I'll ditch it & get an Epson - refills are cheaper & the factory is just up the road from me.)

entwisi 05-01-2012 12:56
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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 960147)
Find your disc & try reinstalling as a new printer.

or even better go to the manufacturers website and download the latest version of the drivers, the ones on the discs are often ancient versions.

MUMMIBOO 11-01-2012 19:20
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I bought one of the Kodak printers, I've done loads of printing off from photos to sticker charts and pictures for the kids and I'm still on the original cartridge I got with the printer!
Maybe yours was a faulty one (either the cartridge or the printer) ??

kestrelx 20-01-2012 16:30
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Originally Posted by MUMMIBOO (Post 961838)
I bought one of the Kodak printers, I've done loads of printing off from photos to sticker charts and pictures for the kids and I'm still on the original cartridge I got with the printer!
Maybe yours was a faulty one (either the cartridge or the printer) ??
Which model did you buy?

I have replaced the cartridges and they work but I left if for a couple of week without printing anything and the text was then unevenly spread! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED ON ANY OTHER PRINTER I'VE EVER HAD AND SOME I'VE LEFT STANDING FOR LONGER THAN THIS! :)

katex 20-01-2012 18:07
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The assistant in the store told me that all printers were sold with low inks ? Mind you, he was texting at the same time he was attending to me. :rolleyes:
Haven't installed yet ...sent for more patient and knowledgeable brother. Mine's an ESP C315.

kestrelx 23-01-2012 17:35
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 963706)
The assistant in the store told me that all printers were sold with low inks ? Mind you, he was texting at the same time he was attending to me. :rolleyes:
Haven't installed yet ...sent for more patient and knowledgeable brother. Mine's an ESP C315.
Today I got the free replacement cartridges. All printers I've bought previously had full cartridges and lasted a long time so I don't think it's right what he said. This is the first time I bought a Kodak; an ESP C110. Note: last week news reports came out saying Kodak are close to bankruptcy!

kestrelx 02-02-2012 19:32
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I bought new cartridges in December and put them in and printed one document!

I left them till 19th Jan and printed 2 letters which came out with patchy black ink but acceptable!

Today I went to print a photo and it comes out with all streaky lines on it. Obviously the cartridges have dried up - WHAT JUST AFTER A MONTH! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED WITH ANY PRINTER I HAD BEFORE!

I have tried remedy this and it's made it worse now the black ink won't print at all! Anyone had this problem before and have a solution with Kodak printers - WHICH ARE CRAP!

Gordon Booth 02-02-2012 19:57
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kestrelx, I had a quite expensive Canon which was excellent for printing and photos.We moved house and I didn't set things up for about 4 months.
When I tried to use it I had exactly the same problem.Bought new cartridges-just the same.
I took it in and they said the jets(printer heads?) had dried out and it would cost more to repair than replacing it so think before you spend a fortune on new cartridges.
My solution-threw it away and bought a much cheaper one- if that goes wrong I won't feel so bad about throwing it and it does the job although not quite as good on photos.

kestrelx 02-02-2012 20:38
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967368)
kestrelx, I had a quite expensive Canon which was excellent for printing and photos.We moved house and I didn't set things up for about 4 months.
When I tried to use it I had exactly the same problem.Bought new cartridges-just the same.
I took it in and they said the jets(printer heads?) had dried out and it would cost more to repair than replacing it so think before you spend a fortune on new cartridges.
My solution-threw it away and bought a much cheaper one- if that goes wrong I won't feel so bad about throwing it and it does the job although not quite as good on photos.
I only put these cartridges in at Christmas - brand new! They shouldn't have dried out by now! And now after I have been trying to get them to work the printer is now telling me "Black cartridge needs replacing!" What a joke - I've hardly used them! I think it's the crap design of Kodak - the cartridges are weird they have sort of open sponges where there is ink, on the color one there is 3 and on the black just 1! :enough:

Gordon Booth 02-02-2012 20:55
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As I said, with mine it wasn't the cartridges drying out, I put new ones in-no improvement. I would imagine the jets on the actual printer head are very small, if not used the ink dries in them and the whole printer head is scrap.

kestrelx 02-02-2012 21:06
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967375)
As I said, with mine it wasn't the cartridges drying out, I put new ones in-no improvement. I would imagine the jets on the actual printer head are very small, if not used the ink dries in them and the whole printer head is scrap.
Yes I get your point. Difference is this is a new printer and has hardly been used! I have one more set of cartridges to put in. But I think Kodak may be trying to be to clever and the intelligence on the printer itself is too sensitive! Because it's already telling me that my cartridges have run out of ink - when i havn't used any hardly! This must be some kind of sensor that it appears to me, I don't think it allows you to keep taking the cartridges out!

kestrelx 02-02-2012 22:00
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967375)
As I said, with mine it wasn't the cartridges drying out, I put new ones in-no improvement. I would imagine the jets on the actual printer head are very small, if not used the ink dries in them and the whole printer head is scrap.
I've just pulled out my old Hewlett Packard F-4280 with half a full cartridge of black ink but an empty color cartridge havn't used it for over 6 months - printed off a black and white photo and it's IMACULATE!!! So how come this crap Kodak doesn't even work with brand new cartridges!!!

Retlaw 02-02-2012 22:14
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967368)
kestrelx, I had a quite expensive Canon which was excellent for printing and photos.We moved house and I didn't set things up for about 4 months.
When I tried to use it I had exactly the same problem.Bought new cartridges-just the same.
I took it in and they said the jets(printer heads?) had dried out and it would cost more to repair than replacing it so think before you spend a fortune on new cartridges.
My solution-threw it away and bought a much cheaper one- if that goes wrong I won't feel so bad about throwing it and it does the job although not quite as good on photos.
That is one of the problems with inkjet printers. I had one once, used to reuse them with the refill kits, one of the bottles in the kit contains a solvent for the ink, when mine reported ink problems, I took the catridges out and stood them in the solvent for about 10 mins, dabbed them dry with a tissue, then set it to print a test page, couple of test pages & it worked ok, untill it dried up again, doesn't take long standing idle in a warm room to dry out the heads.
Got fed up in the end. and bought a colour laser printer, lot cheaper, to run than ink jets.
Retlaw.

jaysay 03-02-2012 09:13
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967368)
kestrelx, I had a quite expensive Canon which was excellent for printing and photos.We moved house and I didn't set things up for about 4 months.
When I tried to use it I had exactly the same problem.Bought new cartridges-just the same.
I took it in and they said the jets(printer heads?) had dried out and it would cost more to repair than replacing it so think before you spend a fortune on new cartridges.
My solution-threw it away and bought a much cheaper one- if that goes wrong I won't feel so bad about throwing it and it does the job although not quite as good on photos.
I bought a new cannon printer Gordon about 14 months ago, it cost £35 and I have replaced the black ink cartridge once, the original colour cartridge is still going strong

entwisi 03-02-2012 12:35
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Some printers have fixed heads and just replaceable Ink "pots" whereas some have them integrated to the cartridge. The former are best for people who print a lot as they dont worry about drying up blocking them and replacement cartidges are cheap, the latter are better for those who print occasionally as a new cartridge replaces the lot, the carts are more expensive obviously but you know that replacing one will give you back full printing again...

Gordon Booth 03-02-2012 13:31
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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 967503)
Some printers have fixed heads and just replaceable Ink "pots" whereas some have them integrated to the cartridge. The former are best for people who print a lot as they dont worry about drying up blocking them and replacement cartidges are cheap, the latter are better for those who print occasionally as a new cartridge replaces the lot, the carts are more expensive obviously but you know that replacing one will give you back full printing again...
I didn't realise that, entwisi. So if you don't print a lot(I don't) you're better with the integrated head/cartridge?
But are the printers and the new integrated heads very expensive? With the price of a cheap printer for an irregular user would it be worth it?
To make sure my (cheap) printer doesn't dry up as the last one did I just print a page every few days.

nick4u1 09-02-2012 12:18
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Like others I've got an HP now and it uses link up far less than the Epson I had before. Also the ink on the HP is a lot cheaper than the Epson.

Neil 09-02-2012 12:43
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Originally Posted by nick4u1 (Post 969184)
Like others I've got an HP now and it uses link up far less than the Epson I had before. Also the ink on the HP is a lot cheaper than the Epson.

You have to compare like for like so need to look how much ink is in the cartridge as they vary a lot.

I have just bought 14 ink cartridges for £7.99 which is 57p each. These are for an Epson. I don't think you would pay less for HP ones.

jaysay 09-02-2012 18:09
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 969187)
You have to compare like for like so need to look how much ink is in the cartridge as they vary a lot.

I have just bought 14 ink cartridges for £7.99 which is 57p each. These are for an Epson. I don't think you would pay less for HP ones.
Which waggon did they fall off:D

Neil 09-02-2012 18:41
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 969254)
Which waggon did they fall off:D

That is the price they are on ebay. Used them before and they have always been ok.

kestrelx 24-02-2012 21:12
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 967375)
As I said, with mine it wasn't the cartridges drying out, I put new ones in-no improvement. I would imagine the jets on the actual printer head are very small, if not used the ink dries in them and the whole printer head is scrap.
Kodak have now sent me new printer heads and the printer is working now! :rolleyes:

jaysay 25-02-2012 09:06
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 972533)
Kodak have now sent me new printer heads and the printer is working now! :rolleyes:
How much was this printer in the first place, maybe they'd have been better holding their hands up and sending you a new printer, a lot better Google Page Ranking

kestrelx 25-02-2012 22:37
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 972613)
How much was this printer in the first place, maybe they'd have been better holding their hands up and sending you a new printer, a lot better Google Page Ranking
Yes I see your point! Well it works now anyway - thanks for your concern! :)

jaysay 26-02-2012 10:15
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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 972911)
Yes I see your point! Well it works now anyway - thanks for your concern! :)
This day and age, printers are so cheap, my Cannon printer scanner copier cost me about £40 including delivery, my first All-in-One, which included a fax, cost me nearly £300, that was an HP, even they're all-in-ones are now less than a £100


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