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maxthecollie 31-12-2012 09:09

Windows 7 home premium
 
Does anyone have a windows 7 home premium disc I can borrow to reinstall it on my laptop as it is going silly, not booting up properly or shutting down.

entwisi 31-12-2012 09:47

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Hmmm, third person I know today who's win 7 won't boot up or it's having issues...

maxthecollie 31-12-2012 09:50

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Mine started yesterday when it wouldn't shut down

Neil 31-12-2012 10:20

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This link tells you how to legally download Windows 7 and create a bootable install USB stick for people who's PC came without one. Quite a few laptops now don't come with DVD drives

How to Install Windows 7 Without the Disc | PCWorld

Restless 01-01-2013 05:06

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Try linux??? a new start for 2013 at least?

maxthecollie 01-01-2013 08:49

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035066)
Try linux??? a new start for 2013 at least?

Hi Rob Happy New Year thanks for the info.What is Linux? I am a pc novice and only know windows.I bought my laptop from pc worls]d over 12 months since and it had windows 7already installed along with a load of bumf about hewlard packard. Mymain problem is that it wont shut down, I have to power it off with the on/off switch
Cheers
Frank

Neil 01-01-2013 09:38

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Linux is for geeky people who don't mind that things that used to work on their laptop/pc with Windows doesn't work on Linux but accept it as ok because Linux is better and they will probably fix it on the next update.

If your not very techie and could do what you wanted in Windows 7 then I suggest you stick with Windows 7. Yes I agree Windows does have problems but it is still the most commonly used and compatible operating system for PC's/laptops

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 09:39

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Linux is an operating system.......like Windows but without all the glitches that you can get with a microsoft operating system(just telling you what I was told about it)....and it is less memory hungy(if I have got this wrong I am sure someone on here will enlighten me).

Check this out Frank.
Linux.org | Resource for Linux | How to Linux guide | What is Linux
and this might help too.
Download | Ubuntu.

I had a laptop with Vista on it. I hated Vista with a passion and was going to download(Ubuntu) it to the laptop, but then I gave my laptop away(with a view to replacing it at some point)

You can run Ubuntu from a flash drive/memory stick if you want to try it first before doing the download onto your laptop.
Many netbooks run Linux operating systems and there are a couple of members on here who would not use a microsoft system if you paid them.
Hope this helps Frank.

Neil 01-01-2013 11:03

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I don't think many new netbooks use Linux any more (if any at all). When netbooks first cam out they used Linux because it was free so did not add to the cost of the netbook. Many people were unhappy with being unable to use the software they were used on their Linux netbooks. Most if not all netbooks dropped Linux and came with Windows XP then Windows 7 starter and I assume some form of Windows 8 now.

This link talks about Linux netbooks Why the Linux netbook crashed and burned

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 11:28

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See...just as I said...someone would put me right :D

Neil 01-01-2013 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035106)
See...just as I said...someone would put me right :D


You were not wrong at all, the netbook thing was right until a few years ago.

Linux is fine for many people if all you do is use the internet you would be ok. Ok that is if it works on your PC straight away. I have tried it on a few laptops/netbooks/PC's and found things that did not work like touchpads and graphic cards. After a lot of messing about with the command line and typing long command in I managed to get most things working.

Yes its getting better all the time but why make life hard, if you know how windows works and are happy with it then just use it.

Your Vista example is a good one because Vista was rubbish. You would have been better changing the OS to Windows 7, much cheaper than buying a new laptop and I suspect you are not a power user so would not have had a problem with your old laptop and Windows 7.

I changed my dads Vista laptop to windows 7 and it made it much nicer to use.

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 12:12

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Well, Neil, it went to a good home, my daughters laptop gave up the ghost and I mainly use my desktop(don't laugh - I really do prefer it to a laptop).
I used my laptop to show himeslf things in the internet...e-bay and such like.
Now, if he wants to look at something he has to stir his stumps and come upstairs.
Technology moves on all the time(I don't need to tell you this - I'm sure you know that as soon as you leave the shop your bit of kit that you have handed over good money for, is already.....not quite obsolete, but there is certainly something better).
I used to think I was a technophobe, but I have realised that no matter how old you are....you can learn almost anything...all it needs is the desire to learn...this old dog, new tricks, thing is rubbish...it just takes us old 'uns a bit longer.

susie123 01-01-2013 12:21

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Margaret knowing your fondness for techy stuff I'm surprised you haven't treated yourself to a tablet by now...

Restless 01-01-2013 13:47

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I like to use Linux for everyday use and try to keep win7 installation as clean as possible for gaming. Ubuntu12.10 has been a bit of a pain to be honest. Well its the nvidia thing. They are trying to push the opensource driver and it totally sucks. At least with my 550ti.

--If you have an official disc. An option is to reinstall and then buy the special offer windows8 upgrade(if you don't mind its horrible new start menu) They are/were doing it at tesco for £50

maxthecollie 01-01-2013 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035137)
I like to use Linux for everyday use and try to keep win7 installation as clean as possible for gaming. Ubuntu12.10 has been a bit of a pain to be honest. Well its the nvidia thing. They are trying to push the opensource driver and it totally sucks. At least with my 550ti.

--If you have an official disc. An option is to reinstall and then buy the special offer windows8 upgrade(if you don't mind its horrible new start menu) They are/were doing it at tesco for £50

I,ve just been having a play with my laptop and found a reinstall setting on it.Just wiating for it to do the job now.

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1035119)
Margaret knowing your fondness for techy stuff I'm surprised you haven't treated yourself to a tablet by now...

I have a generic tablet already. I bought it so that I could show Ma some of the pictures that I take before I put them on disk for her.
It didn't cost a lot and I take it away with me when we go away......some places have free wifi and I sometimes connect up just because I'm nosey and want to see what is going on.

I was looking at camera's in Jessops(I like to look even if I have no intention of buying) just before Christmas and the camera that Mick bought had a Samsung Galaxy Tablet with it.......but I wasn't really looking at buying a new Camera....I am quite happy with what I have at present.

I have been looking at laptops, but seeing as I don't use them much, I thought I would hang onto the money(unless I see something that is a real bargain...or has some new innovation that I can't resist)

susie123 01-01-2013 14:53

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Oh yes I remember now Margaret - you posted some pics of it when Flashy was after info on tablets.

As for me, I have a desktop PC but also a little notebook which I absolutely love - it's great for using in bed.

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 14:57

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I have recently looked at the Asus transformer.....a tablet with a docking keyboard......it runs on an android operating system.......I just can't justify buying one, they are versatile, but they are a bit expensive. I'm not sure how much use it would get.

Restless 01-01-2013 14:57

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What generic tablet is it. There is worlds difference in a cheap china one and the nexus7, kindle fireHD(of which I DO NOT reccomend if you hate marketing and advertising) etc

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 18:27

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I don't know, it doesn't have a brand (Mobile Internet Device)...it wasn't expensive.
It runs Froyo......and it connects to the internet reasonably.......I can load photo's onto it to show Ma...this is really good because my sister frequently send pic from Oz and it means she can see them as soon as they arrive(I don't have to wait for more pics to fill up a disk for her).......the children like it because they can play Angry Birds and lots of other games on it........and music too...they like the music....and they love the camera on it.
So if it conked out tomorrow, I think I have every penny of value out of it.

You can get the Kindle fire without the advertising....you just pay an extra tenner...and even if you buy it with the adverts on, you can opt out of them at a later date by paying the tenner.

Restless 01-01-2013 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035178)
It runs Froyo

:eek: must have had it a while then? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035178)
paying the tenner.

I would rather do this to myself

:microwave

hehe. I am happy waiting for stable mod and get a custom rom running on this thing. For now I shall have to put up with the obnoxiousness advertising. The full screen "lock screen" adverts...... :mad:

Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2013 20:02

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Yes, I have had it for quite a while.
I thought the advertising was supposed to be non intrusive on the Kindle Fire.
I think I would prefer to get something else if I was in the market for a tablet......not sure what, but until then what I have fits the bill for my limited requirements(and if I bought something newer the tinlids wouldn't get a look in - they would have to make do with the older one)

susie123 01-01-2013 20:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035189)
I would rather do this to myself

:microwave

Please don't Rob, fried beards don't smell very nice and anyway we want you to stick around...

Restless 01-01-2013 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035198)
I thought the advertising was supposed to be non intrusive on the Kindle Fire.

Kindle fire HD Advertisements - YouTube

Another annoying thing is... It is very heavily skinned. It is hardly recognizable as an android device. They block google apps from being installed...Playstore, gmail, youtube(why not have youtube in your app store==this is totally stupid)

Se what you make of it....Would you say this is non intrusive? and would you be happy paying £10 to remove it?

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1035199)
Please don't Rob, fried beards don't smell very nice and anyway we want you to stick around...

Cant find a way to close the door :D

susie123 01-01-2013 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035217)
Cant find a way to close the door :D

Oh right - so that why they don't put handles on the inside of the door!

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 07:01

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I would not be happy to have adverts on at all and I think I would pay the money to be without them....or better yet, buy something that wasn't so tied to Amazon apps.
Saying that, I am sure I read on one of the feedbacks for Kindle Fire Hd, that there is some way to make the Kindle accept the other android apps(someting to download that tweaks the system) and also to be able to play youtube on it.
I will have a look later and post a link if and when I find it.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 07:04

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My friend got a Kindle Fire Hd for Christmas(being a bit of a gadget freak,I was a bit envious, but now I'm not so sure) but she hasn't set it up yet....I will see what she thinks of it........I think her husband may have paid the premium to have the machine without the adverts.

Neil 02-01-2013 09:16

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I think the Nexus 7 is a better tablet but the kindle fire might be a bit bigger than 7"

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 09:46

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The display on the Kindle Fire Hd is 7 inch , but the machine is bigger than seven inch.
As far as being able to look at Youtube and other none amazon apps.......the word is to download dolphin browser and use this along with VLC for youtube.......now I can't enlighten you on if these work, but feedback from the amazon site says they do.

I found this too...maybe it will help you Rob(I know you are much more technically adventurous than me)
This guide helped me to side load How To Sideload Android Apps on the Amazon Kindle Fire in 3 Steps - Tested

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 09:53

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Another ecommendation is to download Es File explorer...so that you can find the files you have on the machine.

Le me know how you get on Rob...I will be interested.(mainly because I'm nosey...though I call it curious:D)

Neil 02-01-2013 10:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035242)
Another ecommendation is to download Es File explorer...so that you can find the files you have on the machine.

Le me know how you get on Rob...I will be interested.(mainly because I'm nosey...though I call it curious:D)

I use ES File Explorer a lot on both my phone and tablet. It is very similar to using Windows Explorer to find all the files on your device.

Just looking on Currys and the Kindle Fire HD and Google Nexus 7, both 32GB are both £199.

I think the Nexus 7 beats the Kindle hands down. You can get a kindle app for the Nexus (other Android tablets are available :) )

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 10:44

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Neil, you are right...I think the nexus is a much better deal.
I think the Kindle Fire has been over hyped. I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed in it...those who have bought it as an e-reader will find that it isn't all that(especially in bright light) and those who have bought it for its properties as a tablet will be disappointed because it won't do what they want a tablet to do.
I will stick with my Kindle for reading........and I might just buy an Asus transformer as a tablet...without the dock, it can be had for about the same price as a Kindle Fire HD and it looks like it has a lot more potential.
(although, I am happy to be corrected if anyone knows otherwise)
My generic tablet has the ES file explorer on it and the dolphin browser too

Mick 02-01-2013 13:04

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My iPad work's great on everything e-reader, browser, games
viewing accyweb will do all i want without having to muck about :p:D

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 14:52

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Yes well Mick...they are a bit on the expensive side.

entwisi 02-01-2013 16:10

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So does my tablet and siobhans generic Chinese one and Joseph's zoostorm tab. People seen to make things much more hassle than they need to be.

Restless 02-01-2013 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035247)
properties as a tablet will be disappointed because it won't do what they want a tablet to do.

Noooooooo. That ain't exactly so Margaret. It will do all the things people want a tablet to do. End of the day it is an Android tablet. Unfortunately a very heavily skinned Android tablet. More the fans of google and/or geek/nerd(seems you are getting there yourself hehe) people will be disappointed.

Like you said earlier in the thread... You can install from sources outside the Amazon market. Option is there in the settings(thankfully they never blocked that-- I would've demanded my money back) though cannot install playstore without rooting the tablet(of which currently is somewhat unstable, so I am not going there) but I did install AndroidPIT. AndroidPIT Is a decent alternative to playstore and they take maestro debit cards where Google do not. I bought tapatalk from there....

If you have a rooted device. You can use titanium backup to back up an app you have paid for and back it up to a APK(a little like an EXE) so you can then transfer that to the kindle fire and then use a file manager like ES(of which I use) to install on the Kindle.

Restless 02-01-2013 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035242)
Another ecommendation is to download Es File explorer...so that you can find the files you have on the machine.

Le me know how you get on Rob...I will be interested.(mainly because I'm nosey...though I call it curious:D)

I already use ES. For its root capabilties on my phone :D

As for the KindleFireHD verses the nexus7...

Nexus7 Is a great tablet. I had bought one second hand (£70) but turned out to be faulty. Touch screen in a certain place and it went nuts controlling itself. Managed to get £80 for it though :D

Mum n Dad gave me and Argos voucher, so I put a little money towards and bought the FireHD. I think the screen looks a little better on the kindle. Though the nexus is QC the KFHD will give it a run for its money once devs have hacked the bootloader and a stable custom rom is made available. That is why I won't pay the £10. Eventually it will look like an android tablet. Amazon said that it is unbreakable. But that will only create challenge for Android developers and....well apple said that about the older ipads and ipods

Gremlin 02-01-2013 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1035254)
My iPad work's great on everything e-reader, browser, games
viewing accyweb will do all i want without having to muck about :p:D

Don't forget Catchup TV Mick, or the Sky Go you can watch on the iPad.
I bought myself a Kensington leather case with bluetooth keyboard for mine and use the iPad as a bed side TV, the case doubles as a stand.
I also use it as a bedside radio.

I am told that because catchup TV is 30 seconds behind real time TV you don't need a TV licence but as I have a two TV's I still have a licence.
I have installed the free Kindle app on the iPad and have dozens of books on it.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035285)
Noooooooo. That ain't exactly so Margaret. It will do all the things people want a tablet to do. End of the day it is an Android tablet. Unfortunately a very heavily skinned Android tablet. More the fans of google and/or geek/nerd(seems you are getting there yourself hehe) people will be disappointed.

Like you said earlier in the thread... You can install from sources outside the Amazon market. Option is there in the settings(thankfully they never blocked that-- I would've demanded my money back) though cannot install playstore without rooting the tablet(of which currently is somewhat unstable, so I am not going there) but I did install AndroidPIT. AndroidPIT Is a decent alternative to playstore and they take maestro debit cards where Google do not. I bought tapatalk from there....

If you have a rooted device. You can use titanium backup to back up an app you have paid for and back it up to a APK(a little like an EXE) so you can then transfer that to the kindle fire and then use a file manager like ES(of which I use) to install on the Kindle.

I am not quite sure what is meant by 'heavily skinned' so I can't comment on that........I felt sure that you would have done something about getting what you want from this machine...and that is all well and good if you can do that, but I am sure that many people will buy it from the rave reviews some media have given it, and then find out that it isn't quite what is was supposed to be.
I would be disappointed if I had to tweak something to make it more to my taste.......and some of the things I might not feel that confident about doing(not saying I wouldn't have a go...guided by youtube perhaps - on my desktop).
I feel a bit proud(only a wee bit) that you think I am heading in the direction of geek/nerd........especially considering that I used to consider my self a techophobe.:D

Restless 02-01-2013 19:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1035287)
I am told that because catchup TV is 30 seconds behind real time TV you don't need a TV licence but as I have a two TV's I still have a licence.

That isn't true. For any live broadcast you need TV Licence. Its on the TV licence website

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvlic
The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.

You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

TVCatchup(the site) is poorly named IMO, since Its not a catchup site. I have seen a member banned from TV Catchup forums for boasting he/she never had a tv licence and they do advise you to make sure you have one when you sign up(If i remember correctly)

Restless 02-01-2013 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035288)
I am not quite sure what is meant by 'heavily skinned' so I can't comment on that........I felt sure that you would have done something about getting what you want from this machine...and that is all well and good if you can do that, but I am sure that many people will buy it from the rave reviews some media have given it, and then find out that it isn't quite what is was supposed to be.
I would be disappointed if I had to tweak something to make it more to my taste.......and some of the things I might not feel that confident about doing(not saying I wouldn't have a go...guided by youtube perhaps - on my desktop).
I feel a bit proud(only a wee bit) that you think I am heading in the direction of geek/nerd........especially considering that I used to consider my self a techophobe.:D

I don't find the tablet lacking in speed, memory and plays games like world of goo etc no problems.

You saw the video of the launcher? (usually where you have the 4/5 screens where you put widgets etc on android...)

Skinned is where you make your own 'look' to something. A basic example is colour schemes on this forum. The different skins may change colours or move options like profile link from one place to another,

They have taken Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android and modified it to the extent that it is barely recognisable as an android device(appearance). Even the settings/options have been skinned to death.

So perhaps you have an android phone or two, you have an android tablet... Each device is alike because the OS is the same. You transcend from having phones that had gingerbread, then on to ICS,..and now jellybean. Settings etc are more or less the same, so you go and buy the Nexus7. Straight out of the box you will know how to use it. Guaranteed.

The kindle is so heavily skinned that some will have to learn it again. It looks like their own OS but underneath the crap ideas, the blocks and locks; Its the same as any android device.. Then it all comes down to Specs as with any PC.

Nexus devices are Googles flagship devices. They should always be the best or close to it. Also no real locks on bootloader. Just plug it in and a little command line(one line) unlocks it.

Quote:

and then find out that it isn't quite what is was supposed to be.
Yeah. A result of the heavy skinning. Great for people who's entire world is Amazon :D oh and the morons didn't even add a camera application and there isn't one (free) in the Amazon store...

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2013 21:00

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I don't have an android phone so my experience of tablets is just that(my only experience of Android)...but I get what you are saying now...and I guessed it was that(making your device a bit more personal by adding the decoration that you like) but thought it might have an alternative meaning...and if you don't ask then you stay dumb.

There are some huge gripes about the KFHD not having a free camera app, and there being none on the Amazon app store.......but again, I think someone has posted some solution to it...but it shouldn't happen...it should be readily available.
It is a bit like selling you a car and charging extra for the steering wheel.

Neil 02-01-2013 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1035254)
My iPad work's great on everything e-reader, browser, games
viewing accyweb will do all i want without having to muck about :p:D

Ipad - great hardware, rubbish operating system. Not to impressed by Apple reliability either. Lad at work had his iphone exchanged twice for being faulty, another had a dead on arrival Ipad 3

Yes they work well as long as you want to do things the Apple way. I can get a £200 reduction on any Ipad 3 through work. I spent £400 on and Android tablet instead because I don't want my tablet crippled by ios.

I was hoping the new Microsoft tablets might be the ideal tablet but it's not looking good.

Restless 03-01-2013 06:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1035313)
Ipad - great hardware, rubbish operating system. Not to impressed by Apple reliability either. Lad at work had his iphone exchanged twice for being faulty, another had a dead on arrival Ipad 3

Yes they work well as long as you want to do things the Apple way. I can get a £200 reduction on any Ipad 3 through work. I spent £400 on and Android tablet instead because I don't want my tablet crippled by ios.

I was hoping the new Microsoft tablets might be the ideal tablet but it's not looking good.

Id go for Google/Android over M$/Windows and Apple/Ios anyday. Well especially for touch screen only devices that is.

Restless 03-01-2013 06:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035301)
I don't have an android phone so my experience of tablets is just that(my only experience of Android)...but I get what you are saying now...and I guessed it was that(making your device a bit more personal by adding the decoration that you like) but thought it might have an alternative meaning...and if you don't ask then you stay dumb.

There are some huge gripes about the KFHD not having a free camera app, and there being none on the Amazon app store.......but again, I think someone has posted some solution to it...but it shouldn't happen...it should be readily available.
It is a bit like selling you a car and charging extra for the steering wheel.

Yeah it is totally odd not to have camera app installed. The camera support is there of course since there is a camera. Works on facebook ETC. But. Perhaps they never bothered because they never bothered to mess with the camera at all. It looks like Stock camera to me.

Thats another thing about it. It is a bit like a kick in the balls to google. If amazon did this to a companies like m$ and Apple they would never get away with it. Thats one of the downsides to open source

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 06:56

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I am steadily veering away from either the Nexus or the Kindle......in favour of the asus transformer. It has two camera's 1.2 megapixels and 5 mega pixels(8 megapix on the newer version - but these are still costly).
I might...only might, treat myself to one of these soon.

Neil 03-01-2013 12:54

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When I was looking into which tablet to buy I saw some poor reviews on the Asus Transformer but there are a few models of them

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 14:24

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I would not buy one without going to have a look at one somewhere.......I guess it must depend on what you have been used to before.

I think some prfessional reviewers don't live in the real world...or maybe they have different expectations...comparing things with some other premium brands which cost a lot more money...you get what you pay for in this life.

Whatever I chose would probably be better than the generic tablet which I have now......and which has been good value because it has been used a lot(not just by - the children have enjoyed using it too).

susie123 03-01-2013 14:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035352)
I am steadily veering away from either the Nexus or the Kindle......in favour of the asus transformer. It has two camera's 1.2 megapixels and 5 mega pixels(8 megapix on the newer version - but these are still costly).
I might...only might, treat myself to one of these soon.

Margaret as you have had such an abstemious Christmas I think you deserve a treat. Go for it, I can tell you really really want to... and let's face it the new Kindle was really only a replacement as you thought the other one was on its last legs.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 14:35

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I am not(by any stretch of the imagination) an impulsive buyer...and I also take what some reviews say with a pinch of salt.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 14:38

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I am going over to Manchester in the next couple of weeks so it will be a good opportunity to do a bit of research...and lunch out.
I am also watching what comes up on flea bay because sometimes people get things that they don't want or can't use and then they put them up for sale....there is no galloping hurry.

susie123 03-01-2013 15:01

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Have just been looking on Amazon and there seems to be lots of good reviews of the Transformer on there from real punters.

Can't speak for the tablet side of things but I have an ASUS 10 inch netbook and the keyboard seems the same - and I love mine!

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 15:07

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Thanks Sue. It is always good to hear from someone who uses a product of a similar nature.
Most of the reviews I have read have been on the TF301 and they seem to be reasonable.
As I said previously your views will be very much dependant on what you want the thing for and what experience of other IT products you have had.
I just don't much care for Google play which seems to be where most android apps come from...maybe I will just have to bite the bullet in that respect.(If I take the plunge, that is)

Restless 03-01-2013 19:26

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
if your looking at 10" how about...

Nexus 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035407)
I just don't much care for Google play

Why not. Its pretty much the best market for android apps?. Which do you prefer ?

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 19:45

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I don't trust google, I haven't got a google account and I don't really want one.......I don't know...I just look for what I want(on the internet) and then try to download without going through google play.(and it isn't that I just want apps for free - I'm happy to pay my way)
It is getting much harder though to find apps which aren't distributed via google play.
you know how it is...you get a bee in your bonnet about a company(bing and talk talk are on my blacklist too - but I cannot give you a logical reason that you would understand)

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 19:49

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
Nexus 10" Aarrrrggghh...its got the name google attached to it.
And yes, I do use the google search engine but that doesn't require that you log in.
I know....I know it is irrational, illogical and probably downright daft...but humour me, I'm an old person:D.

Neil 03-01-2013 20:02

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If you use Android then you really do need a google account. If you don't have one on a phone you miss out on one of the best features of the phone

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 20:19

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Neil, don't be silly...I don't have a smart phone. I have an old Nokia310.....or something like that. I can phone people on it(but only in the case of dire emergency)...and I can text people on it(again, only in the case of dire need).
it is mostly switched off and a £20 of credit will last me almost a year.
I can't get the attachment to all these smartphones...for a kick off I would need to carry a magnifying glass around my neck to see anything on the internet...but if I am out and about I don't think about the internet/wifi/gadgets.
I'm just the wrong generation for all that.
If I do get something new, then I will download the apps I have on my current generic tablet....but if I am going to have to run with google I might just give it the swerve altogether. I don't actually need one..it was going to be my plaything:D

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 20:20

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See Rob...I have just taken two steps back from my nerdiness.:D
And all you techno guys will be marking my page B.O.B (batty old bird)

Restless 03-01-2013 20:51

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Hehe. Google created android.

Really? we have a a google hater? hehehehehee

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 20:54

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Yes I know they did...that is what makes it so damned irritating.

Like an itch you can't scratch.
Anyway glad it made you grin Rob.

Restless 03-01-2013 21:01

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In serious mode... I am still in hopes that Google will one day take out m$... somebody needs to do it!! now that company is the ultimate scum.

You mentioned Bing... to my knowledge, m$ have never successfully made a decent search engine.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2013 21:06

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Bing came on a new computer as a default search...I hated it...wiped it off right away.
And my phone is not a nokia 310 it is a nokia 6310i......as old as the hills(well in phone terms) and has a battery that lasts forever.

susie123 03-01-2013 21:38

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035502)
And my phone is not a nokia 310 it is a nokia 6310i......as old as the hills(well in phone terms) and has a battery that lasts forever.

This is mine - £15 in Morrisons about five years ago. Great battery life, cheap as chips on Virgin PAYG when you use it as little as I do. And I neither know nor want to know how to do texts. The best thing about it is it's tiny and weighs nothing at all. I love it.

Nokia 1200 review - Mobile Phone - Trusted Reviews

Restless 03-01-2013 21:41

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035502)
Bing came on a new computer as a default search...I hated it...wiped it off right away.
And my phone is not a nokia 310 it is a nokia 6310i......as old as the hills(well in phone terms) and has a battery that lasts forever.

Ah yes. My Nokia 6300 lasted well over a week.

susie123 03-01-2013 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035506)
Ah yes. My Nokia 6300 lasted well over a week.

What, before you got fed up and bought something else? ;) or are you talking about the battery?

entwisi 04-01-2013 07:08

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
there are other app stores, how do you feel about amazon? Their app store is 'nearly' as good as Play store

go to this link from your tablet

http://www.amazon.co.uk/appstore-web

Margaret Pilkington 04-01-2013 07:25

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Yes I might consider Amazon.

Margaret Pilkington 04-01-2013 07:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1035506)
Ah yes. My Nokia 6300 lasted well over a week.

It lasts six (or more) weeks for me.

I have had other phones......my daughter once bought me one for Christmas(thinking she would upgrade me to a camera phone) I didn't use it more than I use my nokia, and certainly didn't use if for pictures(I have a camera for that)...the battery life was abysmal....and most times when I came to turn it on the battery was either dead or taking its last breaths....so I go back to the good old Nokia...second hand and bought from my sister in law. (who seems to upgrade her phone every two minutes)

Restless 04-01-2013 16:36

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1035511)
What, before you got fed up and bought something else? ;) or are you talking about the battery?

:O haha. Had two of the 6300. it was a nice solid phone. The first was out of my mates mothers cataloge, had no insurance, and a few weeks after owning it I had dropped it into a cup of coffee :(
Liked the phone that much, I got one on contract and got a 1500Inspiron laptop as part of the deal. 2 years later I got my first 'smart phone' it was A samsung pixon... turned out it wasn't that smart.

Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 1035548)
Their app store is 'nearly' as good as Play store

Dude its no where near 'nearly'.....

....well perhaps if seen from anything other than on a KindleFireHD :)

Best thing about the amazon appstore is they give a free app away everyday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1035551)
It lasts six (or more) weeks for me.

:o great uptime!!

I used to think, back in the day, that Nokia made the best phones. If they paired with Google to make a nexus phone I would be all over it! However they do windows phones.... :sick:

susie123 04-01-2013 17:09

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Rob I like your new signature - I think Marvin (the paranoid Android?) suits you...

Restless 04-01-2013 17:12

Re: Windows 7 home premium
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1035626)
Rob I like your new signature - I think Marvin (the paranoid Android?) suits you...

I started the audiobooks a week or so ago. I had never seen or heard/read of it before. :D


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