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lancsdave 04-11-2006 10:07

Football Banning Orders
 
Somebody posted this on the Clarets board but I thought it might be of interest on here. Probably a generalisation but the higher the arrests the more problems you will have going to away grounds or from visiting clubs.

The first thing I noticed is that Man Utd & Leeds fans obviously think they need to be drunk to watch their teams :D

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documen...06?view=Binary

maccawozzagod 04-11-2006 10:14

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I'm not looking forward to my stopover in Grimsby now!! Only three clubs with 0 banning orders this season or last, Stanley, Torquay and Wycombe. That may have changed since those figures were released but well done Stanley fans.

lancsdave 04-11-2006 10:19

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The last time I went to Grimbsy was a cup match in 1974. It came very low down on my list of enjoyable away day experiences. Thankfully football hooliganism has died down a lot since those days.

mthead 04-11-2006 10:25

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

The first thing I noticed is that Man Utd & Leeds fans obviously think they need to be drunk to watch their teams :D

Sorry Dave I found thatbit quite funny.The beer doesn't always cue the trouble,as its a well known fact F.C.United's fans enoy a tipple or two(understatement:) )before and after games.The only trouble we get is with other teams 'Firms' turning up to games that thier team isn't even playing.As an example,the other week we played Newcastle Town away and a coach full of Stoke's 'Naughty Forties' decided to turn up at half time:mad: but they were delt with:D But I suppose its something we will have to get used to as we climb the pyramid.What I was shocked with was that Pompey have the highet bning orders in all 4 leagues:confused: .For a small team the perentage must be high what with having 110 of them.Even Man.Utd's was les than that.

mthead 04-11-2006 10:30

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
Thankfully football hooliganism has died down a lot since those days.

Sorry to say Dave it hasn't it just doesn't get the press it used to.It still goes on but is more secretive,all meetings being arranged ove mobile phones and internet so not alot of people find out what is going on.

Wynonie Harris 04-11-2006 10:48

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Originally Posted by mthead
its a well known fact F.C.United's fans enoy a tipple or two(understatement:) )before and after games.

Having encountered FCUoM's fans on trains and in pubs around Manchester, I'll second that! Always very good natured though, and with very positive attitudes towards Stanley (I've lost count of the number of 'em who've come up and shook my hand when they've seen my shirt). And, unlike many other fans (and Mr Wise), they seem to like our ground (and the Crown pub!).

lancsdave 04-11-2006 10:50

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Originally Posted by mthead
Sorry to say Dave it hasn't it just doesn't get the press it used to.It still goes on but is more secretive,all meetings being arranged ove mobile phones and internet so not alot of people find out what is going on.

As you say it still goes on but it is 'organised'. By being organised in this way it means the pillocks who want to get involved in it usually only involve themselves and not the general public as it was in the really bad days. I feel a damn sight more comfortable taking my daughter to away games than I used to when I was younger. There are still some grounds I would avoid though. Portsmouth is no suprise to me, I would also avoid Leeds,Cardiff and Millwall.

mthead 04-11-2006 10:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Having encountered FCUoM's fans on trains and in pubs around Manchester, I'll second that! Always very good natured though, and with very postive attitudes towards Stanley (I've lost count of the number of 'em who've come up and shook my hand when they've seen my shirt). And, unlike many other fans, they seem to like our ground (and the Crown pub!).

Yeah,it was like a second home last season for us,3 matches played there,but we was there 4 times because of the postponment of the Gt.Harwood game.

mthead 04-11-2006 10:54

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
As you say it still goes on but it is 'organised'. By being organised in this way it means the pillocks who want to get involved in it usually only involve themselves and not the general public as it was in the really bad days. I feel a damn sight more comfortable taking my daughter to away games than I used to when I was younger. There are still some grounds I would avoid though. Portsmouth is no suprise to me, I would also avoid Leeds,Cardiff and Millwall.

Yeah I agree with the areas you listed Dave,but I'd put the Brittannia Stadium and Vale Park in there too.

lancsdave 04-11-2006 10:58

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Have to say the FES is good for us because we get to mix with the home fans, even if it is only a pre-season friendly. :D

accymel 04-11-2006 11:36

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
Have to say the FES is good for us because we get to mix with the home fans, even if it is only a pre-season friendly. :D

Yeh thats a fun fixture of the year altho my little hooligan wanted to take on the most nortorious member of your fans :eek: :D

lancsdave 04-11-2006 11:39

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Yeh thats a fun fixture of the year altho my little hooligan wanted to take on the most nortorious member of your fans :eek: :D

He doesn't stand a chance against me :Banane47:

accymel 04-11-2006 11:44

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
He doesn't stand a chance against me :Banane47:

Well he would try as u know but i meant the gobbiest one of the Burnley crew LOL:D

ukcowboy 04-11-2006 11:46

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Originally Posted by accymel
Well he would try as u know but i meant the gobbiest one of the Burnley crew LOL:D


You have a little hooligan accymel..............I thought when I met 'em butter wouldnt melt in thier mouths...........:p :p :p LOL

lancsdave 04-11-2006 11:47

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Well he would try as u know but i meant the gobbiest one of the Burnley crew LOL:D

You mean Rocky ? He's loud but he's actually very good with the kids :)

lancsdave 04-11-2006 11:48

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy
You have a little hooligan accymel..............I thought when I met 'em butter wouldnt melt in thier mouths...........:p :p :p LOL

As I said when the thread started, the influence of alchohol is dangerous at football matches. Cut down a bit pmsl

accymel 04-11-2006 11:49

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy
You have a little hooligan accymel..............I thought when I met 'em butter wouldnt melt in thier mouths...........:p :p :p LOL

PMSL!!! yeh u met both of my hooligans - who were so busy fighting with each other we had to threaten them with the stewards LOL:D

accymel 04-11-2006 11:51

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
You mean Rocky ? He's loud but he's actually very good with the kids :)

LOL i'll get him to take the lad home with him next time :D

ukcowboy 04-11-2006 11:52

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Originally Posted by accymel
PMSL!!! yeh u met both of my hooligans - who were so busy fighting with each other we had to threaten them with the stewards LOL:D

Oop sorry mel, I thought it was YOU who was threatned with Stewards!!!.........:D :D :D :p

accymel 04-11-2006 11:54

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Originally Posted by ukcowboy
Oop sorry mel, I thought it was YOU who was threatned with Stewards!!!.........:D :D :D :p

Were i?:eek: alright who put something in my capless coke bottle:D

harwood red 04-11-2006 11:55

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Originally Posted by accymel
Were i?:eek: alright who put something in my capless coke bottle:D

Oooopss :o sorry :D ;)

accymel 04-11-2006 11:57

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Originally Posted by harwood red
Oooopss :o sorry :D ;)

PMSL!! i was groping men in shorts were i then?:eek: ;) :D

Did i eventually get round to sewing Mullys badges back on?:D

harwood red 04-11-2006 12:01

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Originally Posted by accymel
PMSL!! i was groping men in shorts were i then?:eek: ;) :D

Did i eventually get round to sewing Mullys badges back on?:D

I don't know about groping, leering maybe :p as for sewing mullins badge, me thinks you are getting slightly obsessed missy...and to keep this thread from wandering...you could be up for a banning order!!!! ;) :D

accymel 04-11-2006 12:04

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Originally Posted by harwood red
I don't know about groping, leering maybe :p as for sewing mullins badge, me thinks you are getting slightly obsessed missy...and to keep this thread from wandering...you could be up for a banning order!!!! ;) :D

LOL well leering is part of the spectatorship:p:D& obsessed... well the poor lad really does get his shirt pulled virtually every match - dont want tother players thinking he's got an old shirt:rolleyes:

Just as long as im not banned up FES im fine:D

harwood red 04-11-2006 12:06

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Originally Posted by accymel
LOL well leering is part of the spectatorship:p:D& obsessed... well the poor lad really does get his shirt pulled virtually every match - dont want tother players thinking he's got an old shirt:rolleyes:

Just as long as im not banned up FES im fine:D

we really gonna have to get our scorecards sorted out to mark the rear ends :D

lancsdave 04-11-2006 12:07

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Originally Posted by harwood red
we really gonna have to get our scorecards sorted out to mark the rear ends :D

And they say women know about football.... the truth is out :D :D

accymel 04-11-2006 12:09

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Originally Posted by harwood red
we really gonna have to get our scorecards sorted out to mark the rear ends :D

LOL i bet thats as far as Eric will go with that lol just as long as they make sure they stand in a line rear facing us ;)PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

ukcowboy 04-11-2006 13:53

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Originally Posted by accymel
LOL i bet thats as far as Eric will go with that lol just as long as they make sure they stand in a line rear facing us ;)PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


Im shocked and stunned, and not a little amazed!!!!.................How rude :eek: :eek: :p :p

Chimer 04-11-2006 18:30

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Back on thread and defending my current home town .....

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Originally Posted by mthead
What I was shocked with was that Pompey have the highet bning orders in all 4 leagues:confused: .For a small team the perentage must be high what with having 110 of them.

Note only 3 in the last year though - almost certainly the great majority came from the day Southampton (aka the Scummers) first came to Pompey when Pompey made it to the Premiership - huge riot all the way from the ground to the station and the courts busy for months afterwards.

No trouble here that's made the news since.

Outback Ozzy 05-11-2006 11:25

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
I'm not looking forward to my stopover in Grimsby now!! Only three clubs with 0 banning orders this season or last, Stanley, Torquay and Wycombe. That may have changed since those figures were released but well done Stanley fans.

I think Yeovil might take offence at that statement macca

stanerlee 05-11-2006 12:47

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Problem is with banning orders, they can be a badge of honour for some people!!!

same with ASBO's. I'd like to see ASFC keep a clean sheet on this one.

mthead 05-11-2006 13:48

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Yeah and I dont see how they work,I thought if you had a banning order you weren't allowed within a certain radius of any football ground,but regularly outside Gigg Lane we have had the pleasure of a certain well known individual with numerous banning orders trying to convert us back to Man.Utd and away from FC United.How does that work?He is in full view of stewards and the few police that are needed at our fixtures.

Scott_ASFC 05-11-2006 15:43

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depends on the banning order, you can get banned form every ground in the country, or just banned from the club either way your not allowed to go near the ground if your banend from every ground in the country you have to hand in your passport everytime england play home or away to the local police station

mthead 05-11-2006 16:27

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Trust me,this guy will be banned from every ground.Not nameing any names but he's the main leader of a 'Firm' and has published a number of books which I have going into detail of thier exploits.He is very well known in that field so how could he get away with being outside Gigg Lane in full view of officials with some of his hench men?

Scott_ASFC 05-11-2006 16:31

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i know what you mean but some people like jason marriner is an ex chelsea hooligan on a few shows ive watched on tv hes been selling is books outside chelsea's ground police didnt shift him, not saying he gets along with the police but might have gave up all ths...

mthead 05-11-2006 16:37

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No he hasn't given it up,his last book 'The Men in Black' is in reference to a campaign only the other season when'The Red Army' travelled down to West Ham,to confront 'The Inner City Firm' (I.C.F.)

SPUGGIE J 05-11-2006 16:47

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Are the police turning a blind eye in case it kicks off and as there are fans still entering the stadium it might quickly get out of control. It doesnt mater what we do or what we say these people will find a way to get into a game. The only answer would be to imprison them for the duration of the foory season but that would bring all kinds of human rights issues to the fore.

mthead 05-11-2006 16:59

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Im not sure wether they are turning a blind eye or just blind and don't realise who he is.I don't think he's there for agro(yet).It just seems like because of who he is and all us being Man.Utd fans,he thinks his fame(term used loosely) will sway us in what is a political type thing between the different factions of United supporters.We choose not to give a penny piece to Malcolm Glazer.I just started talking about it because I don't think the banning orders work and he is proof.

SPUGGIE J 05-11-2006 17:27

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Considering that Glazier thinks that MUFC are a cash cow to line his own pockets then in the same situation I wouldnt give him my hard earned money either.

Scott_ASFC 05-11-2006 18:49

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Originally Posted by mthead
No he hasn't given it up,his last book 'The Men in Black' is in reference to a campaign only the other season when'The Red Army' travelled down to West Ham,to confront 'The Inner City Firm' (I.C.F.)


Ah rite fair enough.... some of the books that have been written are good reads.

mthead 05-11-2006 18:54

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Originally Posted by Scott_ASFC
Ah rite fair enough.... some of the books that have been written are good reads.

Yes they do make good reads i've three,'Red Army General' 'The Men In Black' and 'Suicide Squad'.Haven't read the Burnley one yet though.I will get around to it.

Scott_ASFC 05-11-2006 18:58

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the suicde squad book is a good read, talks alot about england away and about when hes inside prison. the first few chapters are good talkign about from when he was at school till he was 18 what he used to do on matchday...

before any of you start sending bad karma saying "wannabe hooligan" etc get down to local libary and borrow one of these books.

lancsdave 05-11-2006 18:59

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How can a book about a bunch of overgrown bullies be a good read. Even more so when they do it pretending to be football fans ?

mthead 05-11-2006 19:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
How can a book about a bunch of overgrown bullies be a good read. Even more so when they do it pretending to be football fans ?

No i dont think its a matter of that Dave,it gives you a bit of whats thier motive for doing these acts.Like why?what for?

ZOMBIE 05-11-2006 19:04

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I'll move this to General Sport, as it's not Stanley related (or isn't anymore)

mthead 05-11-2006 19:07

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Originally Posted by ZOMBIE
I'll move this to General Sport, as it's not Stanley related (or isn't anymore)

Yeah I thought that myself mate.But it wasn't Stanley orientated at the start.It was just about banning orders in general:)

lancsdave 05-11-2006 19:09

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Originally Posted by mthead
No i dont think its a matter of that Dave,it gives you a bit of whats thier motive for doing these acts.Like why?what for?

Isn't it the same motive that people go mugging old ladies then ? :)

accymel 05-11-2006 19:10

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Originally Posted by mthead
Yeah I thought that myself mate.But it wasn't Stanley orientated at the start.It was just about banning orders in general:)

well honest mistake it can get confusing where to put things where - we all do it:rolleyes:

lancsdave 05-11-2006 19:12

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Originally Posted by accymel
well honest mistake it can get confusing where to put things where - we all do it:rolleyes:

Oh ******, that blows my theory that I'm perfect out of the water :D

mthead 05-11-2006 19:13

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
Isn't it the same motive that people go mugging old ladies then ? :)

When have you heard of an old lady getting done over at a footie match or outside the ground it dont happen.If you read the books you would know its organised between themselves away from the grounds.And usually not involving 'Scarves' which in thier terminology is the everyday footie fan.

mthead 05-11-2006 19:14

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
Oh ******, that blows my theory that I'm perfect out of the water :D

LOL:D :D :D ............

accymel 05-11-2006 19:16

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
Oh ******, that blows my theory that I'm perfect out of the water :D

LOL Even perfect people make mistakes hehehe:D

lancsdave 05-11-2006 19:17

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Originally Posted by mthead
When have you heard of an old lady getting done over at a footie match or outside the ground it dont happen.If you read the books you would know its organised between themselves away from the grounds.And usually not involving 'Scarves' which in thier terminology is the everyday footie fan.

So why do it in the name of football and let every decent football fan be tarred with the same brush. Why couldn't they just call themsleves The Bash St Gang or similar names ?

accymel 05-11-2006 19:19

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Mmmm i wouldn't like to go where theres hooliganism about certainly not take the kids anyway gee bad enough with the lanky from fc versus gobby leeds fan in a pub one time:rolleyes:

mthead 05-11-2006 19:20

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Originally Posted by lancsdave
So why do it in the name of football and let every decent football fan be tarred with the same brush. Why couldn't they just call themsleves The Bash St Gang or similar names ?

They do 'Red Army' 'Inner City Jibbers'= Man.Utd. 'Suicide squad'=Burnley 'Bushwackers'=Millwall etc etc


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