The Great debate.
 

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Re: Gt Harwood Show 2004
 

You're right, kippax...I never go with the flow. I advance in only one direction - and that is towards the sound of the guns.

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Yes we know.. Its a bit like you using two Ps in my name. You know its wrong.. but you want to be different. Your an attention seeker. Theres nothing wrong with that.. takes allsorts to make a world mate.. being an attention seeker isn't wrong. :)

But you go too far sometimes.. slagging off your own country to get attention is sick IMHO

But don't worry.. I just call ya a ****** and get on with life... I mean its not like you messed around with this weeks soaps or owt is it ?:)

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We are on topic..

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I agree, Kipax........we are on topic. I don't however, slag off my country - I only slag off those imbeciles in Portugal who claim to represent and support it...another nights drunken riots last night, I see. Presumably you're proud of this nonsense?

(P.S. Sorry about the spelling...that was'nt deliberate. I'll get it right in future.. :D )

Re: Gt Harwood Show 2004
 

eeerm i really have no idea how you get to that? I take offence at what you say about the English team and you think I am proud of drunks fighting in portugal.. Sorry I can't find the link ?

This is off topic... But the bit about your opinions on the gt harwood show and how they only differ to other peoples is because you like to differ (is that a real word?) is on topic in my opinion .

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Fasinating...so there is no link between drunks wearing English replica football shirts fighting in Portugal, 30,000 riot police on standby and the presence of the English Footy team.....presumably there was no link either in Euro 2000, '96, '92 etc etc....

I like the bit about me being a self-publicist.....OK, I own up - I am. All I need now is to get my own website.....any suggestions for examples where I can look?

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I said i cant find the link between me not liking your slagging england off and your assuption that I am proud of what yobs do.... Its quite amazing in fact that I can take offence at you slagging off England and you then presume I am proud of a bunch of morons... Whats the link that you presume such a thing?

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Come on girls, settle down or we'll have to have the handbags at 10 paces scenario!

Re: The Great debate.
 

tell you wot why dont you both meet up in the miners on sunday, believe me kipax YOU WILL change your mind when you meet old tea there so come on even if its only for 1/2 hr //

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I'm pi**ed off.....I spent the good part of an hour replying to Kipax's diatribe only to see it blasted into the furthest reaches of Cyberspace because Plod has moved the goalposts....now I know how beckham feels like each and every time he misses his penalty for England.

Which, of course, was the object of my earlier points. How anyone can seriously translate love of country into supporting those imbeciles in Portugal is beyond me. What's the first thing they will do when they get on the pitch? Why, mime some mumbo-jumbo to pass off for singing the national anthem.

Meanwhile, any attempt on my part to have a quiet pint and a ggod conversation will be ruined by hoards of screaming, tattooed laddettes, topped up with alcopops, while their equally obnoxious boyfriends will be "Oohhhing" and "Ahhhhhhing" for 92 meaningless minutes...

It was'nt like this in '66....we went in coldly & clinically and did the job....Ramsey puffed on his pipe & Moore raised the trophy and then we all went home. Of course, the thing is, we knew how to win in those days...Ah well.

Where's tonights riot taking place? Same place as last night?

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Cant be bothered... dont like being monitored and treated like a naughty schoolboy....

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mez? change my mind about what? are you saying if i meet him i wont like him and will stop having healthy debates with him ?

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JohnW whats your problem? why are you calling people girls... ? please explain what part of our debate you are so offended by that you wish to resort to childish name calling?

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Why are so many people so intent on telling the rest of us what to do ?

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Not quite, apparently. Did anyone see the programme on TV the other night that suggested the match was rigged? We all know about Geoff Hurst's goal that wasn't, this programme highlighted several dubious refereeing decisions to support its claim that the match was won by less than fair means. If I remember correctly the inference was that the ref had accepted a bung.

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Less of the old. He was in the same class at school and I'm not old.

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God it must be a slow news day when they have to have a program about rigging matchs in the sixtys or is just that if England do well we have to knock them down? Let me guess the reporter was from err... Scotland, Ireland, Wales or a mixture of all 3.

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didnt mean it that way, yerself, sorry it was a term used as :an old friend : ive met tea a few times now & find him great :oo eck dont tell him that :///

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What are you saying Mez that what we see on here is not the real Tealeaf, does the real one really watch football and enjoy it.

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no wot im saying is hes a nice person really ooo eck im ruining his reputation for stirring it, or liking winding people up ooo eck should never av started all this, forget it all of it hes gonna taunt my dog now i just know it hes a bully //

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Debate is now over.

Here's a shiny gold thing that a fabulous England team won.

At least it was in living memory. Eh ?

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Dont forget england won le tournoi or something in 99 i think. The tournament that was in france.

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Le Tournai! You're having a laugh........no one took that seriously...that was 3 teams having a minor kick about in the park....I think the other 2 teams gave us the cup out of sympathy for having won nowt.

This debate has only just begun....

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Why do you hate the england team so much? Are you jealous or something that you cant play at that level or something?

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the excuses are already being rolled out for tonight's match. Apparently England have never won a match that has been exclusively televised on ITV. That's according to this morning's Daily Express.

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Scott, I don't "hate the England team"..........like any other person on here I would love to see any team or individual in any sport win while representing this country.

However, what I do have is contempt for English football as played at the premiership and national level. I object to the incomes the players receive, I object to the coverage on the TV and in the media, I object to the England team's miserable performance, I object to their lack of skills and leadership, I object to the fact the manager is a foreigner, I object to the England Captain because he is a complete waste of time....

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tea you did, BULLY :s_spit: leave my dog alone//

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Tea you are going a little CRAZY now....................... The england captain a WASTE OF TIME ?????????

Your contempt for the higher level's of football is ruining your EYESIGHT and Judgement

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No, it's everyone else who's following these idiots who's crazy (I acknowledge my eyesight is'nt to good)....do you seriously believe Beckham as a captain is any good? So you really think that the opposition are going to respect an English Captain who wears his wifes underwear....they're going to be pi**ing themselves with this joker. Get real, Simon.

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Trust me Tealeaf I am RAEL.. On one level I agree with you.. That is why my money support's real football "ACCRINGTON STANLEY" But the chelsea disease(money) can affect this level too :(

But I must take point about beckham....

Any team who face Beckham, like you say must be pi**ing themselves but out of fear for his skill and not laughter..

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Skill? Skill? Beckham has one talent and that is in the set piece free kick...he can sometimes cross the ball, he can't take penalties nor can he tackle...mind you, he's very good at lying on the ground and kicking out when he thinks the ref ain't looking (even then he was useless...if you're going to kick someone, kick 'em hard)....

The only skill that Beckham has is in being a complete and utter ******...as for bending the ball - give me a weeks practice and I could do better.

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We will meet up in a week then Tealeaf .. Next week thursday evening at hyndburn sports centre 9.00pm it is already booked :) I look forward to seeing you "bending it better than Beckham"

Ps - Dont wimp out on me ;)

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Unfortunatly, Simon, I can't cover 250 miles between leaving work and getting to the Sports Centre on Thursday night for 9pm.....However, it might be worth contacting Beckham for him to give you a display of his "skills"...he'll be back in the country by then.

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Was that a chicken that just ran past my window????? :)

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No, David Beckham

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:rose8: Got to agree about Beckham
1. Apparently the off-the-field antics of Beckham don't matter. Wrong. You ask any top manager and they will tell you that the way a player behaves off the pitch is pivotal to his performances on it. Thierry Henry does a few adverts, but basically he goes home after training, rests up and thinks about improving. Look at the level Roy Keane got to when he stopped letting stuff get in the way. Achieving potential is all about putting football first. Beckham does not do that. He spends too much time and energy jetting around generally being a prat and getting silly tattoos and haircuts. It would affect anyone.

2. The Greece game. Beckham did what he does. Ran himself ragged and took loads of free-kicks. Most of them were rubbish. One was good and long overdue. This game against a very average team is cited again and again when anyone criticises Beckham. It's pointless. It was three years ago. It's gone. Focus on what you see before you now. A good player but with an average touch and limited technical ability. No \ pace, no dribbling skill. Out for himself over the team. A prima donna.

3. Beckham told everyone to calm down when we scored. Thanks for that David. Let's keep you in the England team forever. Beckham is not a good motivator on or off the pitch. The other players, despite what they might say in public, don't like him. He is so insecure that he constantly requires special treatment instead of standing up as first among equals. On the pitch he has very limited organisational or communication skills.

4. The Istanbul penalty. Yes, his standing foot slipped. But this was because he was putting far too much weight on it as his penalty technique is rubbish. He takes them like a 30-yard free kick. Leaning back, no control or direction. He is rubbish at them. A less vain player would realise this and be selfless enough to pass the responsibility on to Lampard whose technique is miles better. But Beckham cannot pass up the chance of personal glory, even if it means the team will suffer.

With Beckham a penalty is a flip of a coin, whereas it should be 95%. Even the one he scored against Argentina was rubbish. And no, this unfortunate slipping routine does not happen to all players. It does not happen to Zidane. It never happened to Klinsman, Lineker, Van Basten, Gascoigne, Wright, Shearer,
Le Tissier etc etc. That is because they were taking them properly. They may have missed sometimes, but not through a lack of technique.

5. The major tournaments. Beckham let everyone down in 98 against Argentina. In 2000 he was okay but uninspiring. In 2002 he bottled a challenge that led to Brazil's equaliser and was rubbish throughout the tournament. Even when we went out, he was more concerned with how the picture of him would look consoling Seaman than anything else. It's pathetic.

Beckham had a good first half season at Madrid, but he is limited. He has a great right foot. He is an excellent passer and one of the best crossers in the game. His stamina until recently has also been excellent. That's it.

A good England manager would tell him to shut it, stay on the right wing and concentrate on covering G Nev and putting crosses in. Do what you can do and don't try what you can't.

Whinge over. And I will be right behind him on Thursday, come what may.

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Put it this way there careers last 10- 15years, then thats it finished. They have to get as much as they can.


So i take it you also despise of singers who get more money for doing less.

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:rose8: Scott I think you have the wrong end of the stick, Tealeaf does'nt like the England captain not Brittany Spears.

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Calm down lads.At least all the other favourites are out, and as for football violence there was a German jailed for his part on killing a German Policeman in the 1998 World Cup