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Mancie 12-05-2010 00:06

England Provisional World Cup squad
 
No place for Rovers keeper Robinson which is a surprise to me .. I reckon he's as good as Green.
England's 30-man provisional squad for the World Cup finals:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Manchester City), David James (Portsmouth), Robert Green (West Ham).
Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Jamie Carragher (Liverpool), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Michael Dawson (Tottenham), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Ledley King (Tottenham), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham), Stephen Warnock (Aston Villa).
Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Joe Cole (Chelsea), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Tom Huddlestone (Tottenham), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Aaron Lennon (Tottenham), James Milner (Aston Villa), Scott Parker (West Ham), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City).
Forwards: Darren Bent (Sunderland), Peter Crouch (Tottenham), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham), Emile Heskey (Aston Villa), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United).

On what basis is Heskey included as a striker? Charlton Cole or even Bobby Zamorra do a better job and score goals.:confused:
No place for Neville or Brown although United have had a good defence when they have played.
Scott Parker and Matthew Upson get in from West Ham from a team that finished bottom five in the Prem!. 3 West ham players in the squad?.

Mancie 12-05-2010 00:28

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Another thought.. Michael Dawson and Ledley King ship four goals at Burnley all all places and they could be our defence in a World Cup :D..behave :D

Barrie Yates 12-05-2010 06:48

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As you say Mancie - Nearly got another warning then. No Wes Brown - the best utility defender of all, Rt Back or Central.
Heskey - a player of his size with size 6 boots - no wonder he falls over so often and even young Rafael was able to bully him.
King - can't train fully, plays alternate matches - a World Cup defender, I don't think so.

Mancie 12-05-2010 08:18

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 814104)
As you say Mancie - Nearly got another warning then. No Wes Brown - the best utility defender of all, Rt Back or Central.
Heskey - a player of his size with size 6 boots - no wonder he falls over so often and even young Rafael was able to bully him.
King - can't train fully, plays alternate matches - a World Cup defender, I don't think so.

No way should Heskey get a squeak.. like you say Barrie.. Ledley King is a risk because of injury and not training.. but then he is a good defender and gets his head in going up for corners

cashman 12-05-2010 08:26

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Heskey is a joke when yer talking world cup strikers, do not understand that at all, Symes is more prolific.:confused:

Mancie 12-05-2010 08:32

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 814137)
Heskey is a joke when yer talking world cup strikers, do not understand that at all, Symes is more prolific.:confused:

talking of strikers we don't look to strong.. Crouch has a good record but take out Rooney and our strike force looks weak for World cup winning team.:(

cashman 12-05-2010 08:53

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 814139)
talking of strikers we don't look to strong.. Crouch has a good record but take out Rooney and our strike force looks weak for World cup winning team.:(

i don't need convincing about that.:eek:

rishton blue 12-05-2010 10:17

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what really bothers me is peter crouch..not on his ability but how the foreign referees always seem to give fouls against hin when he wins headers..we cant be giving possesion away every time he wins the ball.
would also have liked to see ashley young included..

Mancie 12-05-2010 10:23

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Originally Posted by rishton blue (Post 814176)
what really bothers me is peter crouch..not on his ability but how the foreign referees always seem to give fouls against hin when he wins headers..we cant be giving possesion away every time he wins the ball.
would also have liked to see ashley young included..

Yep should be a place for Ashley Cole.. he can play on the left always looks to run at the opposition and has a good shot...rather have him than Upson

rishton blue 12-05-2010 10:29

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i was thinking more of young coming on late in games and being told to go at them.but then capello probably thinks walcott and lennon can do that.i just think there is more end product from young...

jaysay 12-05-2010 10:42

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Heskey's a waste of space, think Brown should be in and Robinson is just as good as green if not better, he's had quite a few clean sheets this season

Mancie 12-05-2010 11:26

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Originally Posted by rishton blue (Post 814184)
i was thinking more of young coming on late in games and being told to go at them.but then capello probably thinks walcott and lennon can do that.i just think there is more end product from young...

I was thinking of Ashley Young.. I would not make a good manager.. so I'll shut up for a while :D

Mancie 12-05-2010 11:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 814197)
Heskey's a waste of space, think Brown should be in and Robinson is just as good as green if not better, he's had quite a few clean sheets this season

Robinson is as good if not better than Green.. James is the best keeper but we all know he can be dodgy.. all said we have no decent goalkeeper.. no brilliant midfield.. no attack..:rolleyes:.. oh god it's all gone tits up! :)
PS (and when the Tories take over the players will be kitted out with plastic boots from Asda)

jaysay 12-05-2010 15:05

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 814245)
Robinson is as good if not better than Green.. James is the best keeper but we all know he can be dodgy.. all said we have no decent goalkeeper.. no brilliant midfield.. no attack..:rolleyes:.. oh god it's all gone tits up! :)
PS (and when the Tories take over the players will be kitted out with plastic boots from Asda)

Its not the boots that make the player:D

jaysay 12-05-2010 15:08

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Things are going belly up, JT has his leg in plaster after a training ground accident, must be is metatarsal, as I write is just come on Sky Sports that JTs metatarsal is causing concern:D

Mancie 24-05-2010 22:11

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Nice win for England tonight against Mexico..don't want to be to critical but our defence looked lazy.. Mexico defence was even worse.. looks like Capello will play 4-4-2 in most games so I reckon Crouch and Rooney upfront.

cashman 24-05-2010 22:16

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i will be critical, thought defense was asleep first half, mexico were by far the better side first 45 mins, simply not good good enough if ya expect to do well in South Africa.:eek:

jaysay 25-05-2010 10:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 817414)
i will be critical, thought defense was asleep first half, mexico were by far the better side first 45 mins, simply not good good enough if ya expect to do well in South Africa.:eek:

I'm sad to say but we did mist John Terry, Ashley Cole and Fat Frank last night, Crouch certainly is a better prospect up front with Rooney, Heskey is to much of a liability injury wise

Mancie 27-05-2010 01:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 817572)
I'm sad to say but we did mist John Terry, Ashley Cole and Fat Frank last night, Crouch certainly is a better prospect up front with Rooney, Heskey is to much of a liability injury wise

Terry, Cole and Lampard will all be in the line up for the World Cup.. can't say we missed Lampard because apart from his shooting power he does not create anything..as far as the defence goes Ferdinand has gone of the boil this season and his injuries have not helped... we have not got a decent English goalkeeper ... the South American teams have faster better midfielders and strikers than us..Spain have the lot.. we are doomed!:D

cashman 30-05-2010 23:21

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gonna be very difficult leaving 7 out, most of em were crap this aft.:rolleyes:

jaysay 31-05-2010 09:59

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 819223)
gonna be very difficult leaving 7 out, most of em were crap this aft.:rolleyes:

Easier to keep 7 and leave 23 out cashy:)

Mancie 01-06-2010 22:16

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Heskey is in the final 23 man squad as a striker... he get's the nod over Darren Bent.
goal scoring record this season Bent 24.. Heskey 3.
OK I'm no expert but to take Heskey to the WC ahead of Bent as a "striker" don't add up.. or have i missed something?

cashman 01-06-2010 22:27

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well they go on about what he gives the team, it sure aint goals, unless i'm totally numb, always thought that was a strikers primary function?:confused:

Mancie 01-06-2010 22:47

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 819575)
well they go on about what he gives the team, it sure aint goals, unless i'm totally numb, always thought that was a strikers primary function?:confused:

same here... maybe it's some brilliant new tactic the likes of you and me ain't qualified to understand :confused: :D

jaysay 02-06-2010 09:25

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 819591)
same here... maybe it's some brilliant new tactic the likes of you and me ain't qualified to understand :confused: :D

Must be an Italian thing Mancie:rolleyes:

cashman 02-06-2010 14:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 819646)
Must be an Italian thing Mancie:rolleyes:

Ya mean like there tanks wi 3 reverse gears?:confused:

jaysay 02-06-2010 14:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 819694)
Ya mean like there tanks wi 3 reverse gears?:confused:

Ya cashy and one forward, incase of an attack from the rear:D


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