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Started as they will go on and perhaps one of the highlights was Paul Scholes - from Salford, being named as Man of the Match.
Start chasing the rest of you.:D:D:D:alright:

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Just wondering where Mancies 8 home grown young players where though, unless he was thinking of Giggs and Scholes :rolleyes:

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Not sure of the definition of "Home Grown" - honest, does it mean born within the borough where the team play, or taken on as a youngster.
But as i understand it, clubs have to name the squad of 25 soon and 8 of those have to be "Home Grown".
So, how about Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Brown, Amos, Cleverley, Welbeck & Gill?

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Read Mancies post about the mexco game, was saying the team consited of 7 or 8 young home grown talent

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8 "home grown" out of 25 will be no problem for United...but I can think of quite a few teams were it could be a problem..:D

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I see people like you sat in the pubs in Accrington when I come up on a Saturday watching football on Sky Sports. They wear Utd, or maybe Liverpool or Man City shirts or some other plastic premiership side, it doesn't really matter. No pride, no loyalty, no interest in their home town team. Meanwhile, Stanley struggle on with gates of under 2,000.

A shame, such a shame. :(

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As I live in France it is a bit difficult for me to watch any English games except on TV.
I am not aware of any requirement that you must be born in a particular town or city to support the football club of that town or city. Are you suggesting that to support Chelsea you must be born in Fulham?
I also remember the time when Accrington Stanley 1st XI was composed almost entirely of foreigners. Rather than criticise the expatriates why not have a go at the residents - less than 2,000 for a home game? That is the shame.

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No requirement, just a little thing called local pride. As for the Stanley team being composed of "foreigners", I assume you're talking about the Galbraith era. As far as I'm aware, all Stanley players at that time were British subjects, so where were the "foreigners" you refer to? But I take it you had no interest in your home town club even then. As for having a go at the residents, I do it all the time, just ask Jaysay. I'm just casting my net wider at the moment. ;)

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:D times must have changed.. no Burnley or Rovers shirts?.. may have passed you by Wynonie but things like trains, buses, cars (and the odd tram) can get you from Accy to Manchester in under an hour..Utd, Liverpool and City are local teams..this ain't 1891!

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Oh yes, plenty of them, Mancie, and they don't escape my disapproval, either. But, yes, you're right, rapid transport links, the power of big corporate companies, sophisticated facilities, market forces and all that...in fact, I put it to you, Mancie, that premiership clubs are the Tories of English football! ;)

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It's an interesting comparison..the Tories do disregard the sick, the blind, those who are cripples , and some of them end up playing for .. Accrington Stanley :D

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You might not have made that remark if you'd seen them hold premiership side, Fulham at bay for around 70 minutes last season until they somewhat unfairly had a man sent off. Typically, at the end of the match their manager decided the team were far too grand to change and shower in Stanley's changing rooms and they were whisked off to their hotel in true, elitist, Tory fashion.

Mancie, I've been to Old Trafford once a few seasons ago and I do not know how you, as a man of the people, can stomach it. It reeks of smug, self-satisfied, corporate capitalism - a place where all the traditional values of football have been cast aside in the pursuit of mamon.

You can laugh at Stanley, but I take a pride in standing on the terraces of the Clayton End in a real atmosphere with real fans, supporting my home town club.

Just like the Tories, the premiership clubs know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

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Did you get a prawn sandwich ? :D

Man Utd yesterday.. Saturday monring, had a session at Carrington training ground.. over 10,000 came to watch and all proceeds went to local charities.
I do have respect for Stanley.. many a time you would find me weeping in my pint int'u Broadway after tu'Stanley losing..but they are abit like puff the magic dragon.. little boys move on :D

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Little boys may well move on...to the rarified, artificial atmosphere of Old Trafford where they can enjoy the corporate delights therein, along with the citizens of the Home Counties, the Emerald Isle and various other locations far and wide. However, real blokes stick wi' t'Stanley! :D

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Not good enough to be asked to go for a trial at AS but OK for Burnley, same thing for all the AGS boys of the time, not even the reserve Lancashire & England schoolboy keeper was asked to go for a trial - he finished up playing for Blackpool Reserves I believe.
Scots, irish & Welsh are not English, they each have their own leagues and each qualify for the European Championship, European Cup and World Cup - therefore they must be foreigners, certainly in this context.

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Liverpool have 8 before you start:D

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cor blimey Slagpuss were did you pop up from?.. you reckon you have 8 in your 25? name them!

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I'll name mine
Cleverly, Wellbeck, Smalling, Gibson, Evans, King, Gill, Wotton..
and could include Brown,Scholes,Giggs..

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lets have some honesty here.. this season there will be more british players in the United team than anyother team in the prem.. and I'll take bets on it!

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I will not argue with that.

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Some discussion about how many we have but looking at the rules we will be ok as the 8 don't have to be British players if they are under 21:confused:

Would you believe Insua counts as one of the eight.

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Insua ..who is he.. Argentino? no sorry mate this is about British/English lads in the first 25.. he sounds like a right orrible bastard...he's dad probably had it on his toes when the Paras turned up at Goose Green :D

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Ah, so now we get down to the crux of your antipathy towards your hometown team...bitterness. A helluva long time to carry a chip on your shoulder, Barrie!

As for foreign players, I thought the whole controversy was over the number of players in each team who are non-UK citizens and therefore have to apply for work permits and all the other rigmarole? As far as I'm aware, that doesn't apply to Scottish players (yet).

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You might be better off asking how many times a season Mancie actually graces the stands of the Theatre of Merchandising, very few if ever;)

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Was that Goal Keeper David Johnston by any chance Barrie

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Smalling don't count he ain't been at the club betwen the ageof 18 & 21:p

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There again Mancie not having a clue what he's on about, each team has to have 8 players registered who have been at the club minimum between the ages of 18 & 21 irrespective of their country of birth:p i. e Fagrigas at Arsenal

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Well, we both know who the "foreign player" was, who was donning the green jersey for Stanley at the time, don't we, Jaysay? A mutual friend of yours and my old fella's, I believe. I wonder if he regards himself as a "foreign player"? ;)

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Well you can call him a foreign player if you want, I'll pass thank you:D
Oh by the way he lives in At Anns on Sea, now Wyn

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I certainly wouldn't call him a "foreign player"...he's a big bloke, if I remember rightly. Barrie can, if he wants to. ;)

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[quote=jaysay;835317]Was that Goal Keeper David Johnston by any chance Barrie[/quote

Sorry Jay but no, never heard of David Johnston.

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[quote=Barrie Yates;835379]David Johnston was born in Ossy stood 6' 8" tall and played for Blackpool, in the 70s

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[quote=jaysay;835413]20 years or so before that Jay.
Anyway Wyn, IMHO, I am allowed freedom of choice, be it religion, politics, the teams of whatever sport I wish to support, where I live/work, whatever I do within the laws of that particular country, a freedom of choice that i have given almost a quarter of my life attempting to guarantee for myself and many people of "foreign nations".
No bitterness towards AS, just sadness, particularly that after all your efforts you can still only get 2,000 or so spectators to a home game - I suggest youi look for another challenge, you have obvbiously failed inyour attempts to increase the gate to a viable commercial number.
You have your freedom to choose Wyn without criticism from me - allow me the same courtesy.

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[quote=Barrie Yates;835470]The fact remains that Stanley's support is so low exactly because of people like you - people with no regard and no loyalty towards their home town football team. People who choose a football club to support in a town with which they have no connection simply because they're more successful than their hometown club. As for "looking for a new challenge"
I don't regard it as a challenge, I regard it as a privilege to support my home town football league club, even if the majority of Accringtonians adopt your uncaring, indifferent attitude.

As for not criticising your choice, I've got every right to criticize your choice just as you've got every right to criticize mine - that's what democracy's all about, isn't it?

I'll tell you something, Barrie, when the club had reached their lowest ebb around 1965, I was still there on the crumbling terraces of Peel Park, along with around 50 others and I would've carried on even if I'd been the only one. I've left instructions with my missus to have my ashes scattered on the Clayton End (just as my old fella's are on Peel Park) because it's in my blood. So I'm not going anywhere looking for new challenges, I'm here till the death, literally, and I'm on your's and every other stayaway's case in the meantime!

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One suspects that Mancie is more than adverse to the concept of local loyalty because his team is, of course, Millwall which a) started off north of the river b) is supported by no more than a collection of fourth-rate wannabe hoodlums, c) followed by trendy yuppy faggots and finally d) has won nowt, will win nowt and has been nowhere and will go nowhere.

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Thats why he supports United:cool:

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Ah yes .the story of the man that ventured to the hate capitol of Old Trafford.. did you go there in the 70's when it was all non ticket and you could only buy the match programme inside the ground?.. in them days the match programme had a token to collect for any cup games.. the only dream was to get within a few points of Liverpool and stop off for a pint in Hassy.. in short the same sort of support you have in Accy Stanley.. no more no less.

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No, I went about four or five seasons ago, Mancie, and the scenario you describe has been left far behind, replaced by an artificial, sanitised atmosphere. A rootless sort of place, a temple to the ethos of football as a corporate product, rather than the game of the people. In fact, the sort of place I thought you'd despise. Still, perhaps you do and dreams of the 70's are all you've got left.

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As I've said in another post Wyn when it comes to football Mancie becomes the worst sort of money grabbing capitalist, nothing is to good for this Southern living Blackburn Born, United hanger on;)