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jaysay 30-04-2012 08:25

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Well it looks like the FA are going to bypass Happy Harry and go for Roy Hodgson as next manager, think he'll be on a loser with the fans from the start, most England fans want Harry, except Spurs fans that is. I actually don't like Hodgson he runs out of steam easily, he failed at Rovers and Liverpool, think he bottles when the pressure is on

heth 30-04-2012 09:59

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At least he is English John, thats one good thing! :rolleyes:

jaysay 30-04-2012 10:02

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 988226)
At least he is English John, thats one good thing! :rolleyes:

The only thing

heth 30-04-2012 10:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 988227)
The only think


Think about what?! ;)

jaysay 30-04-2012 10:10

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 988231)
Think about what?! ;)

Eh:D

claytonx 30-04-2012 10:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 988218)
Well it looks like the FA are going to bypass Happy Harry and go for Roy Hodgson as next manager, think he'll be on a loser with the fans from the start, most England fans want Harry, except Spurs fans that is. I actually don't like Hodgson he runs out of steam easily, he failed at Rovers and Liverpool, think he bottles when the pressure is on

Remember the fans wanted Kevin Keegan

jaysay 30-04-2012 10:39

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Originally Posted by claytonx (Post 988236)
Remember the fans wanted Kevin Keegan

Ya and they got him, life could be very hard for Wroy:rolleyes:

entwisi 30-04-2012 10:50

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I had to check the date when I read this story on the bbc website...

I'd rather see Sir Alex F have a go

cashman 30-04-2012 11:47

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Hodgson has no personality fer my money, yeh need someone wi charisma i reckon fer that job.:( Plus he was crap at Blackburn.

lancsdave 30-04-2012 11:50

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They need a nanny not a manager, overpaid, no pride prima donnas :)

Eric 30-04-2012 14:14

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What in hell's name is the FA thinking about! Sure, Hodgson knows football. But, an inspirational leader? I don't be thinking so. I just don't get it. There is no shortage of football talent in England; so, there is no excuse for the consistently poor performances in international competition. I don't think I buy the "prima donna" argument ... well, not completely. I'm sure that there are superbly talented English footballers out there who are proud to wear the shirt.

jaysay 30-04-2012 17:53

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 988248)
Hodgson has no personality fer my money, yeh need someone wi charisma i reckon fer that job.:( Plus he was crap at Blackburn.

He wasn't or clever at Liverpool either:rolleyes:

carpon 30-04-2012 22:46

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I'd agree....it's a strange situation when the F.A. seem to have thrown all their eggs in one basket so to speak. I think the F.A. are looking at the "cheaper" option... after all they won't need to pay West Brom any compensation !!!

I may be wrong, but I can't help but think Hodgson wouldn't be in the job by the time it comes to qualifying for Brazil '14 IF he's appointed. I've no doubt that some of the hacks in Fleet Street are already dreaming up headlines for what many will probably see as the "inevitable failure" that will follow IF Hodgson is appointed & England flop at the Euro's this summer.

The England job has long been a poisoned chalice. Expectations are always raised when it comes to going into the tournament. Meaningless friendly victories like we had recently over the Spanish and the Swede's are seized upon by the press and all of a sudden...England are world-beaters again!! Maybe the recent defeat against the Dutch in February may temper expectations. :confused:

Yet upon the first signs of failure, those nice journo's round on the team and more so the manager, like a pack of hounds baying for blood !!! Personally, I don't give us much chance at the Euro's. I'd like to be wrong....but I think we don't have players who can match the likes of the Dutch, the Spanish and the Germans. Certainly not in the big games.:(

Despite the fact that Hodgson seems to be " a nice bloke " he certainly doesn't inspire me and I somewhat doubt his "ability" to motivate a bunch of players who, despite being talented never seem to perform as an " effective unit " when it comes to the big stage of the tournaments. :(

And I've never forgotten Hodgson's "prima donna" attitude when he brought Fulham to the Crown a couple of years ago when he / they neglected to use our fabulous changing rooms !!!:o:eek::rolleyes:

And given that Hodgson is almost certainly going to be an unpopular choice for many in the general public, I can't see him lasting long IF he is appointed as England boss. This situation is very reminiscent of when the F.A. appointed Ron Greenwood when the whole country seemed to want Cloughie as boss. And poor old Ron Greenwood, who Cloughie joked that "he ( Greenwood ) couldn't even win an arguement with his (Greenwood's ) own wife" didn't last long in the England job did he !!!:rolleyes:

Maybe 'Arry didn't really want the job....maybe his recent "tax" case cast doubt into the minds of the powers that be at the F.A....One things for sure....career wise 'Arry is probably better off staying with Spurs. After all ...after managing England not many who have taken the England job have a career left after taking hold of the "poisoned chalice"!!

The only one that springs to mind to buck that trend was the late, great Sir Bobby Robson.:o

ToffeeGuy 30-04-2012 23:04

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I heard that when Hodgson was Rovers boss a plane flew over the training ground and he wasn't best pleased. So he asked one of his assistants if they could get it to fly somewhere else. Dunno if this is true.

jaysay 01-05-2012 09:02

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Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy (Post 988412)
I heard that when Hodgson was Rovers boss a plane flew over the training ground and he wasn't best pleased. So he asked one of his assistants if they could get it to fly somewhere else. Dunno if this is true.

Which Dingle told you that:D

jaysay 01-05-2012 09:06

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Just touching on carpons post (13) you might have a point about Harry's involvement with HM Customs and Revenue, although he was cleared, the FA have always had that holier than though complex

lancsdave 01-05-2012 15:06

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Appointed on a 4 year deal. Good luck Woy, you're going to need it :D

jaysay 01-05-2012 18:00

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Reading on line that Happy Harry's wife stopped him from getting the job, tut women:D

steve2qec 01-05-2012 18:35

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I like RH, think he'll do a good job.

cashman 01-05-2012 18:42

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Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 988588)
I like RH, think he'll do a good job.

Yeh steve they thought the same at Liverpool n Blackburn.:eek:

jaysay 01-05-2012 18:45

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 988594)
Yeh steve they thought the same at Liverpool n Blackburn.:eek:

Ya was okay at Rovers for a time then everything started going tits up, and we ended up with rubber dingy Kiddo,

DaveinGermany 01-05-2012 18:50

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Personally I'm not sure he's the right choice, but still, let the fella have a go first to see how it pans out & then make a decision.

jaysay 01-05-2012 18:51

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 988604)
Personally I'm not sure he's the right choice, but still, let the fella have a go first to see how it pans out & then make a decision.

Four years is a long time to find out;)

cashman 01-05-2012 18:57

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 988604)
Personally I'm not sure he's the right choice, but still, let the fella have a go first to see how it pans out & then make a decision.

Fair enough, hes had a couple of hours now, get rid.:D

jaysay 01-05-2012 18:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 988609)
Fair enough, hes had a couple of hours now, get rid.:D

Far too long:D

DaveinGermany 01-05-2012 19:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 988605)
Four years is a long time to find out;)

Doesn't mean he'll stay the distance, look at the last 2 we had, Sven "the trousers" Erikson, then Cappello the Italian job ! :(

jaysay 01-05-2012 19:06

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 988612)
Doesn't mean he'll stay the distance, look at the last 2 we had, Sven "the trousers" Erikson, then Cappello the Italian job ! :(

Ya and look how much money they have to pay out in compen:rolleyes:

Mancie 01-05-2012 19:24

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 988612)
Doesn't mean he'll stay the distance, look at the last 2 we had, Sven "the trousers" Erikson, then Cappello the Italian job ! :(

And let's not forget Steve McClaren :eek:...this is the same mob (the F.A) who gave the the last load of crap the managers job.. goody two shoes Trevor Brooking and the likes have gone for the safe option .. nice bloke, good with the press, managed umpteen teams and won nowt! may as well have brought back Graham Taylor :D

Barrie Yates 04-05-2012 10:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 988594)
Yeh steve they thought the same at Liverpool n Blackburn.:eek:

He did better than both Kean and KK:p:D

cashman 04-05-2012 11:00

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 989400)
He did better than both Kean and KK:p:D

Wrong KK did much better as yeh well know.:rolleyes:

kestrelx 04-05-2012 13:19

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 988530)
Appointed on a 4 year deal. Good luck Woy, you're going to need it :D

Well they dropped him in at the deep end - only 5 weeks to get a team in shape! :eek: Beats me why they didn't pick someone months earlier? :rolleyes:

cashman 04-05-2012 13:24

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 989439)
Well they dropped him in at the deep end - only 5 weeks to get a team in shape! :eek: Beats me why they didn't pick someone months earlier? :rolleyes:

They were probably trying to see if they could get Harry,on the cheap.

jaysay 04-05-2012 18:15

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 989442)
They were probably trying to see if they could get Harry,on the cheap.

Or Cheep if he was going for a song:D

Barrie Yates 05-05-2012 11:22

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 989404)
Wrong KK did much better as yeh well know.:rolleyes:

Think you will find his record at Liverpool is better than KK is doing this season and his record at Blackburn can't be any worse than Kean's:D

jaysay 05-05-2012 13:40

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 989734)
Think you will find his record at Liverpool is better than KK is doing this season and his record at Blackburn can't be any worse than Kean's:D

Kean is the worst manager in history although the states don't actually show it, the top ten worst managers only have a few games on their states before they got the chop, since Venky's gave Kean the job he's been their 18 months and his win ratio is below 20%, if he'd have been at any other club in the country he'd have been sacked long ago, but he's just on an ego trip, which could come to an end tomorrow afternoon but certainly on Monday

Barrie Yates 06-05-2012 10:18

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 989764)
Kean is the worst manager in history although the states don't actually show it, the top ten worst managers only have a few games on their states before they got the chop, since Venky's gave Kean the job he's been their 18 months and his win ratio is below 20%, if he'd have been at any other club in the country he'd have been sacked long ago, but he's just on an ego trip, which could come to an end tomorrow afternoon but certainly on Monday

I can't see Kean walking out as he wouldn't get paid up and Venky's will have to pay up his contract if they sack him. From the tightwad attitude they have shown so far I cannot see them being prepared to pay up his contract. But if he goes, whichever way, then who will be prepared to step into the abyss. The big concern has to be that if they do go down they could go into free fall. Keep the faith Jay, things can only get better - sometime:D

jaysay 06-05-2012 10:34

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 989924)
I can't see Kean walking out as he wouldn't get paid up and Venky's will have to pay up his contract if they sack him. From the tightwad attitude they have shown so far I cannot see them being prepared to pay up his contract. But if he goes, whichever way, then who will be prepared to step into the abyss. The big concern has to be that if they do go down they could go into free fall. Keep the faith Jay, things can only get better - sometime:D

I think your analogy is spot on Barrie, the useless git won't quit, seeing he's very little chance of getting another job, dignity or no dignity, nobody will touch him with a 10' barge pole, and who the hell will work for Venky's, knowing what's gone on since they took over, all they want is a yes man, that's why they got rid of BFS, he wouldn't have taken the crap this shower have dealt out, that sometime won't be anytime soon and I doubt I'll be around to see it:mad::mad:

Barrie Yates 07-05-2012 11:35

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 988604)
Personally I'm not sure he's the right choice, but still, let the fella have a go first to see how it pans out & then make a decision.

One never knows, I feel he must be given a chance although I can't see England progressing too far - but after all he has only what he was left with.
As for 'arry, well, perhaps there is still a bad smell around from the alleged tax offences upon which he was cleared, but wasn't there also an alleged involvement in "bungs" a few years back?
One must also look at his credentials - what has he won?

cashman 07-05-2012 11:38

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 990249)
One must also look at his credentials - what has he won?

Goodwill from the majority of fans i speak too, Summat R.H. aint.;)

phil8715 07-05-2012 19:23

I think Woy could be just what England want. Ok he plays dull and boring football but I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 2-1.

I think if Arry was going to be England manager the FA would have asked him before now. He carries too much baggage.


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jaysay 08-05-2012 09:35

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Originally Posted by phil8715 (Post 990345)
I think Woy could be just what England want. Ok he plays dull and boring football but I'd rather win 1-0 than lose 2-1.

I think if Arry was going to be England manager the FA would have asked him before now. He carries too much baggage.


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Ya we thought that at Ewood and again at Anfield, he'll end up another wally with the brolly

phil8715 18-05-2012 22:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 990474)
Ya we thought that at Ewood and again at Anfield, he'll end up another wally with the brolly

It was a very strange appointment indeed.


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