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The match between Inverness Cally Thistle v Celtic kicked of at 12 noon today so I watched the first have on ESPN, this was between first and second in the league, Celtic ran out 3-1 winners opening up an 18 point gap at the top. I never had much faith in Scottish football prior to the demise of Rangers, but its now a really Micky mouse league, can anybody remember the last team to win the top division in Scotland other than Celtic and Rangers, I'm having trouble, and as for Rangers in the Third Div. its about a standard below the conference

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the last 4 years the standard of football has been not very good in the spl this season has been a joke since the only show in town has not been there .the full of the spl only had 29,000 spectators today while rangers got 46,000.we will win the 3rd but next year if they dont change the leagues we might struggle as i dont rate mcoist as a manager hes a coach but management is a step too much.the standard of football aint up to much and most are part time.at least scottish clubs are starting to try and bring young players through instead of blowing wages on over rated players from abroad.the future who knows .rangers are playing mostly under 21 players.

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i asked the spugster .. he said its back in the 80s aberdeen and dundee utd territory .. he then said google it ... so i did do .. and he was right!!! :D it was aberdeen in 1984/5 season ..

List of Scottish football champions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Sevco are focusing too much on attendances rather than revenue. Every team in the world would amass capacity crowds with ticket prices like these!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8QyE-JCMAA-nJF.jpg
http://po.st/PgsRXr

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well theres a lesson to be learned cheaper prices more fans..;) there has been a difference,a lot more younger supporters are going so the futures bright.

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Rangers are very a poor team in a very poor league, my original point was, that because of Rangers mismanagement and their subsequent demise to obscurity, the Scottish Premier league is now a one horse show instead of two, Rangers and Celtic have always been head and shoulders above anything else in Scotland, in fact I can't remember the last winners of the title outside the top two. Rangers thrive off Celtic and Celtic off Rangers, pity that of it isn't about football but bigoted religious factions. I've been an honorary member of the Celtic S.C. since 1970 when I worked at their supporters club down the road from Park Head, but watching the game yesterday and the subsequent 18 point gap and virtually a place in the champions league is making Scottish football a laughing stock

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it pains for me to admit but celtic arent doing too bad in the champions league.you shouldnt tar everybody with the same brush .i support rangers because my family come from drumoyne govan.there is bad in every football support whether it be racist or sectarian .

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Och ! A Weegie then, that explains a lot. :)

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born in weegie land, brought up in ayrshire moved to lancashire and moved back up to ayrshire.

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To be a honest C'mon I didn't realise just how bad it was until I saw it for myself, the Rangers Celtic issue, puts United Liverpool totally in the shade, they're like pussy cats in comparison. the thing that really opened my eyes was when I worked at Celtic S.C. We were refitting the concert room upstairs full refit bar ceiling wall panels the lot. I was fitting the bar shutters, in those days the law only allowed a opening of 4 feet then there had to be a 12" solid pillar, which we made as a horra glass screen. There was a panel around 9" square in Blue, a committee man came over and said you'll have to change that, why I asked, it will last two minutes on opening night before somebody puts their fist through it, so we sent down to William St for another in Green. Right at at end of the job the last day the carpet fitters arrived brought in the carpet, Royal Blue, I called the same committee man over and asked him what was going on, he just said, you walk on that:eek: ya couldn't make it up. Three weeks later I was on a snagging trip around Scotland and we called at the club to replace a handle on a bar drawer, when I went in I've never seen anything like it, I just said to my mate how old do you think that carpet is, two years he said, no three weeks, I've never seen so many cigarette burns in a carpet before or since, I was looking for the sign when the floor is full of fag butts please use the ashtrays

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The myth that the old firm revolves around religious hatred is garbage in my opinion, or at least for one team anyway. Celtic were founded in 1887 with an opening statement saying "A football Club will be formed for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and unemployed", not that this club is for the Irish Catholics who have immigrated here, albeit they were the majority in need back then. Rangers however felt threatened by these immigrants and based their identity off the opposite of what Celtic were. This is why Rangers never signed a Catholic player till the 1980s when Souness signed then Celtic player Mo Johnstone, with Souness later revealing that the Rangers board had advised he didn't sign any Catholics in order to not upset any Rangers fans. Protestant manager Jock Stein summed it up perfectly:
"Jock, if there were two players, one Catholic and one Protestant. Who would you sign?"
"The Protestant"
"Why?"
"Because I know that Rangers would never sign the Catholic".

Celtic is and always will be a club open to all, no sectarian songs have been sung at Celtic Park for years and it will continue to be this way. The same cannot be said for Rangers however when they seem to content for singing 'The Famine Song' and adding the little 'F*ck the pope and the vatican' when singing Follow Follow

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There you go I rest my case

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Think you might find it was Aberdeen Jay - guess who was their manager:D

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So thats where the drunk cut his teeth then:rolleyes:

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misinformed. rangers have had catholics before the 80s johnny hubbard naming one celtic dont have anybody but catholics on the board hence why jock stein was never given a place on the board he was given the football pools to run both were as bad as each other .hopefully time away from each other will lessen the daftness. the press up here stir it the snp stir it by creating laws which just make it ten times worse by antagonising idiots on both sides ftp the famine song etc havent been sung at ibrox for 2 years as they are banned .we have moved on we have had catholic captains amuroso who went to blackburn among few gattuso arteta van bronckhurst porrini mo johnston:p most people dont care what religion players are it producing the goods on the pitch that counts.just thinking if we kept most of that team together it would have been some team.

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and may i add im not falling for it mr stone roses :p:D:D:D take your fishing rod home lol

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Hip Hip hurray something we can agree on C'mon, its a complete nonsense like you said, its not about where you go to church its about watching a team playing on a football field, from what I saw when I worked up there in both catholic clubs and Orange houses (mind you this was in the early 70s)they were both as bad as one another, its my belief that things HAVE improved immensely since those days but as you say there are always nutters on both sides of any argument who don't like to see peace both on and off the field. I honestly don't think that the present situation that exists is doing Scotish football any favours, Rangers in the forth tier of football, and as you said its not cut and dried that they will get automatic promotion next season, but the sooner the Status Quo is returned to the SPL football is the real looser

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Who gives a flying, six of one half a dozen of the other, end of argument, remember "no poppy on our hoops stunt";)

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very well, can I ask what was wrong with it? :confused:

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it was an insult to all our troops past and present, and remember I'm pro Celtic

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What troops?
The ones who killed innocent men, women and children in Ireland?
The ones who are in Iraq and Afghanistan aiding America in their search for oil whilst killing civilians on their way?

Remember Celtic was founded by Irish immigrants who were more than likely affected by the British armies involvement in Ireland, or know someone who was, and seeing how Celtic are always consistently told to keep politics out of football until Poppy season comes along where they are forced to have a Poppy on their shirt, they have a reason to protest.

I will remember the troops who I think fought and died for a worthy cause, but I will remember them in my own way, I don't need no Poppy to prove this. I believe that nowadays the Poppy has gone astray from its original agenda, as I now see it more as a way to garner support and glorify any wars the British army becomes involved in. Just my opinion.

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And your opinion sucks:mad:

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:rolleyes:

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Are you really here to talk about Jock footy or just cause an argument ?

Should you wish to discus British military intervention through the ages try the search facility, or better still, start a new thread.

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he is fishing,;) dont fall for his bait

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I'm a Catholic and I won't swallow his crap;)

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I wear a white poppy which remembers all who died in wars, not just the soldiers.
Obviously you do not know your history either
http://www.irishholocaust.org/1024-m...attredirects=0

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I know enough to shun a white poppy, for what it is, conscientious load of bull crap, there's only one poppy and people who died and gave so much in all wars are remembered by them, the red poppy, any others are a poor attempt to gain credibility. I remember some Hyndburn councilors who walked around with the white poppy on their lapels and refused to walk on remembrance day, it only ever happened once

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Okay, each to their own SR.

Hang on I thought you didn't "need no poppy to prove this." yet in your second statement you categorically & clearly state you wear a white poppy ?????? Which incidentally came about in the 1930's & it was the Womens co-operative guild that first issued them in 1933 as "a pledge to peace that war must not happen again."

Whereas the more common Red Poppy came into being in 1921 & was adopted by the RBL with the intention of supporting veterans, their families, widows & orphans of the "Great war".

Anyway lecture on Poppies over & onto my grasp of History, I think you'll find my understanding of history & British history in particular is quite wide ranging & encompassing, making your statement moot.

So once again I suggest that we return this thread back to Jock footy & if you want to discus this further start a new & relevant thread. :)

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I was putting myself in the shoes of the Green brigade (the group who protested the poppy being forced onto celtic teams shirts).

Also I wouldn't keep going on as if you're some genius, i'll assume you've got all them quotes from wikipedia? ;)

Also my last post might not have made sense because this picture was supposed to follow it up, for some reason it didn't post -- http://www.irishholocaust.org/1024-m...attredirects=0

Anyhow. I do believe this should return to SPL chat. Although this probably shows what the SPL is, more politics than football.

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Thanks Dave, this was never supposed to go down the road of sectarianism, it was all about the very poor quality of football as a whole over the border, can't believe how poor it is, ESPN are even showing 3 division games because Ranger are playing in that league, but they aren't the Rangers of old they will be in the wilderness for a very long time

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To be honest I've never really rated Scottish football, it was always between the big 2, plus the numbers never allowed for the variety that can be found in English or for that matter European football.

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Aren't they restructuring the leagues to make it 12-12-18? + Celtic have a young hotbed of talent at their team right now, players the EPL are dying to get their hands on. Ki has already gone, they're after Wanyama, Hooper, Forrest, Izaguirre was being looked at pre-injury, also Forster is on teams targets, especially with his performances against Barca

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Well if it was any good Dave the big two wouldn't have been trying all they can to get into the English Premier League, it won't happen it would have to be ratified by all clubs, even if it was ever considered and can you see anybody agreeing, well maybe the like of the plastic mancs who don't give a toss for football anyway

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Hot bed in Scotland, Crew are like that in England:rolleyes:

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If we can shift these players for the same money we got for McGeady we'll be set for years

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Deary me, you really are making assumptions SR. No, not a genius, but fairly well educated with an interest in happenings internationally, especially those of a historical nature. I am also very well read having a large personal library covering many topical & factual subjects (somewhat more cerebrally challenging than a collection of Viz & Playboy). :)

Wikipedia ..... I wouldn't touch it with yours my friend. I glean my information from other more reliable sources & the internet is an ideal vehicle for searching for such resources. So, are you going to start a new thread or not ? ;)

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in the words of a fellow poster..

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Touche! I was merely replying to your last off topic comment.

Truce & Jock footy it is then. :)

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Again the quality of the "futba" is apparent in Scotlands consistent failure at the national level, limited resources due to lack of players to choose from. Bit like an "English" speaking San Marino. :)