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Eric 22-06-2015 19:25

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that none of you football fans seem to be interested in the Women's World Cup ... the games are drawing record crowds over here. And the English girls play Norway tonite in Ottawa. Their first knockout round game. I'll be watching the game and cheering the lasses on. (If, by some chance, they should meet Canada ... well, I'll be wearing the Maple Leaf:D) I really hope they do well. They can't do any worse than that bunch of stumblebums who represented England in the last World Cup.

Margaret Pilkington 22-06-2015 19:42

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Himself has been watching and he has been shouting at the TV.....now I know nothing about football, but my impression is that he has found it interesting, exciting and this has surprised me because I thought he would be very critical of women's football.

cashman 22-06-2015 20:32

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Not even remotely interested mate.

Margaret Pilkington 22-06-2015 20:37

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Now, I thought that was what himself would say.

Eric 22-06-2015 22:53

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England win:alright: Not something one heard often at the last world cup:rolleyes: Great game too.

Michael1954 22-06-2015 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143164)
England win:alright: Not something one heard often at the last world cup:rolleyes: Great game too.

And a great winning goal!

Aussie Irene 23-06-2015 00:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143152)
that none of you football fans seem to be interested in the Women's World Cup ... the games are drawing record crowds over here. And the English girls play Norway tonite in Ottawa. Their first knockout round game. I'll be watching the game and cheering the lasses on. (If, by some chance, they should meet Canada ... well, I'll be wearing the Maple Leaf:D) I really hope they do well. They can't do any worse than that bunch of stumblebums who represented England in the last World Cup.

Hubby gave up on the England men's team years ago.
We now wear the green and gold.
Our girls beat giants Brazil, and are now in the quarter final.

Eric 23-06-2015 00:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1143168)
Hubby gave up on the England men's team years ago.
We now wear the green and gold.
Our girls beat giants Brazil, and are now in the quarter final.

Watched the game ... great entertainment ... great win.:alright: Canada, Australia and England all thru to the quarter finals.:theband: But now Canada and England meet in Vancouver. Time to put on the Maple Leaf.

Aussie Irene 23-06-2015 03:15

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143159)
Not even remotely interested mate.

Cashy, don't be a chauvinist, that's what happens when you have forgotten how real football should be played. :D

Gremlin 23-06-2015 07:30

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The ladies football was on in the background in Read con last week and I started to watch a bit.
I was surprised to see they played a decent game with some amount of skill.
I don't know what I was expecting, probably a bunch of cissies prancing about (like the men) but they were pretty good.

Eric 23-06-2015 18:04

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1143174)
I was surprised to see they played a decent game with some amount of skill.
I don't know what I was expecting, probably a bunch of cissies prancing about (like the men) but they were pretty good.

When did you last see an English team that played with some amount of skill? :rolleyes: At least against real opposition. In Canada, our top football team is the women. Men, real men, lace up their skates, grab a stick, and hit the ice. One thing you can say about the women's game: it ain't all about money, and who can hand out the biggest bribes.

On Saturday, I will be cheering for Canada. But, whichever team wins is going to be my team for the rest of the tournament.:D And my third choice: Australia.:alright: Come on the Socceroos:D

cashman 23-06-2015 19:02

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In Canada its not surprising the top team is the lasses, They have always been pretty crap at football the fellas yon.:D

Eric 23-06-2015 20:56

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143219)
In Canada its not surprising the top team is the lasses, They have always been pretty crap at football the fellas yon.:D

Get back to me when you guys dominate your national sport, like we dominate ours.:D When was the last time England beat Germany 16-0?

Eric 23-06-2015 21:51

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Looks like the Vancouver game is sold out ... There will be 50,000 at the game ... and it promises to be a loud crowd.

Aussie Irene 24-06-2015 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143212)
When did you last see an English team that played with some amount of skill? :rolleyes: At least against real opposition. In Canada, our top football team is the women. Men, real men, lace up their skates, grab a stick, and hit the ice. One thing you can say about the women's game: it ain't all about money, and who can hand out the biggest bribes.

On Saturday, I will be cheering for Canada. But, whichever team wins is going to be my team for the rest of the tournament.:D And my third choice: Australia.:alright: Come on the Socceroos:D

Eric, our girls team are called the Matildas, the men are the socceroos.

Margaret Pilkington 24-06-2015 07:32

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I know this is going to sound contentious....especially from someone who dislikes football as much as I do....but, men are never going to acclaim a women's football tournament.
It wouldn't matter if all the players had the footballing skills of Pele....or some of the other greats in football.....it would never be acceptable to them.
Men will always see the women as 'playing at it' because they see football as a male game.
Though goodness knows there are some real Jessie's playing professional football at the moment.

Someone once said that women have to be twice as good as men to be thought of as half as good. This is spectacularly true when it comes to football.

Now I will wait for the red stuff to land.

cashman 24-06-2015 07:39

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Not at all Margaret, personally i think women boxers are totally unacceptable, which is probably why it puts me off watching womens football.

Margaret Pilkington 24-06-2015 07:47

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Well, you are spot on there.....women boxing is abhorrent.
But boxing and football are totally different.
Himself has watched some of the women's football and he seemed to think it was worth watching......his feet were going.....which is what happens in matches he is engrossed in.

Personally I am not a fan of any sport.

cashman 24-06-2015 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1143245)
Well, you are spot on there.....women boxing is abhorrent.
But boxing and football are totally different.
Himself has watched some of the women's football and he seemed to think it was worth watching......his feet were going.....which is what happens in matches he is engrossed in.

Personally I am not a fan of any sport.

I know they are totally different, its the mentality of these people though to me. those who organise and run.

Gordon Booth 24-06-2015 09:30

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I'm not a sports fan either but I don't see boxing as a 'sport'.
It's the only 'sport' where the whole intention is to hurt your opponent, the more the better.
Women boxing- awful.
Women playing football- well they don't fall down in agony as often as the 'men' do so maybe they're tougher?

Margaret Pilkington 24-06-2015 09:33

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Maybe they play fairer Gordon.....don't do the dives with the intention of seeking an advantage over the opposition.
They certainly seem less histrionic than many professional football players.....perhaps it is because there is much less money involved.

Eric 24-06-2015 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1143239)
Eric, our girls team are called the Matildas, the men are the socceroos.

"Matildas" .... Cool; I like that.:D

Eric 24-06-2015 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1143242)
I know this is going to sound contentious....especially from someone who dislikes football as much as I do....but, men are never going to acclaim a women's football tournament.
It wouldn't matter if all the players had the footballing skills of Pele....or some of the other greats in football.....it would never be acceptable to them.
Men will always see the women as 'playing at it' because they see football as a male game.
Though goodness knows there are some real Jessie's playing professional football at the moment.

Someone once said that women have to be twice as good as men to be thought of as half as good. This is spectacularly true when it comes to football.

Now I will wait for the red stuff to land.

Never thought of it quite like that. Over here women's hockey is not only widely accepted; it's also popular. I don't see why it should be any different for football :confused: And someone mentioned boxing::D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aeoFvtM8OQ

Eric 24-06-2015 14:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143244)
Not at all Margaret, personally i think women boxers are totally unacceptable, which is probably why it puts me off watching womens football.

The time's they are a changin', buds. In fact they have changed. Boxing is tame. Think "Ronda Rousey.":D And in male-dominated NASCAR: Danica Patrick. Whatever: there are a bunch of English girls over here, playing their hearts out to win a world championship trophy for England. I personally can't see anything wrong with getting behind the Lionesses and cheering them on, which is something I will be doing if they beat Canada in Vancouver.

cashman 24-06-2015 14:50

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The times have changed Eric, dont mean i have to like it.;)

Margaret Pilkington 24-06-2015 20:14

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Yes Cashy, it is just that we (the oldies) are nowhere near as adaptable to change as we would like to think...well, I know that I'm definitely not.

Aussie Irene 24-06-2015 23:17

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1143291)
Yes Cashy, it is just that we (the oldies) are nowhere near as adaptable to change as we would like to think...well, I know that I'm definitely not.


But Margaret, as oldies, we have little choice, as the saying goes, Time and Tide wait for no man. I have friends who would not use ATMs when they first came out, but they do now. I never thought i would have a computer, or have to drive a car, i was in my 50s when i passed my test, but as you know a car is a necessity over here. We have to adapt to change.

shillelagh 24-06-2015 23:21

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ive watched bits of it ... and what ive seen has been pretty good ..

cashman 25-06-2015 06:55

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Originally Posted by Aussie Irene (Post 1143298)
But Margaret, as oldies, we have little choice, as the saying goes, Time and Tide wait for no man. I have friends who would not use ATMs when they first came out, but they do now. I never thought i would have a computer, or have to drive a car, i was in my 50s when i passed my test, but as you know a car is a necessity over here. We have to adapt to change.

We certainly have choice Irene, whilst we have to adapt to certain stuff like it or not, we sure dont have to like doing it, unless were androids or summat.

Margaret Pilkington 25-06-2015 07:14

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I choose what I adapt to......and drag my feet on those that I don't want to adapt to.
I won't use the self service tills in the supermarkets.
WH Smith has installed one and there were no staff serving so I dumped my £15 woth of purchases and bought them elsewhere...once you lose a customer it is very hard to get them to come back.
This isn't to say that I don't have the nous to use those tills.....I do.....I am not technophobic. I just want to be served by someone who can answer any queries that I might have.
Why can't the staff see that these self serve tills will eventually do them out of a job?(I suppose that like us they are forced on them...but if it were me I would continue to serve the customer and let the other stuff go hang)

dotti34 25-06-2015 08:04

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Like you, Margaret, we (him and me) won't use the self-serve area of the Supermarkets. We are quite capable of doing so of course but choose not to on principle. The Supermarket giants make enough profit without reducing staff numbers - which is what the self-serve is all about, says cynical me. Also when we spend our money with them we certainly (and rightly) expect good personalised service.

As for cutting down on staff, our local Supermarket had no Express lanes open on a busy Saturday morning - and so his nibs had a long wait to be served with only a few items. Wasn't happy, sent in a complaint, and got a $20 gift voucher with an apology!!!!!

Sorry, I've wandered off-thread, as usual.

dotti34 25-06-2015 08:17

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Back on thread. The Matildas became the first senior Australian soccer team to win a game in the knockout stages of a World Cup. Whatever happens next, this is quite some achievement. NOW they will be getting the accolades and the media coverage they so richly deserve. Go girls!!!!!

dotti34 25-06-2015 08:27

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...and of course best wishes to the English team. Goes without saying. I might have been gone from England for many years but I'm still an Englishwoman at heart.

DtheP47 25-06-2015 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143272)
The times have changed Eric, dont mean i have to like it.;)

Here's an interesting piece for you Mr C, you old curmugeon. ;)


The Dick, Kerr Ladies' FC

Eric 25-06-2015 13:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1143308)
someone who can answer any queries that I might have.

No problemo ... In India, there are hundreds of thousands of folks sitting by a phone, just waiting for your call;)

Eric 25-06-2015 13:30

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Originally Posted by dotti34 (Post 1143319)
Back on thread. The Matildas became the first senior Australian soccer team to win a game in the knockout stages of a World Cup. Whatever happens next, this is quite some achievement. NOW they will be getting the accolades and the media coverage they so richly deserve. Go girls!!!!!

And watching the games is much more fun than reading about what Angel di Maria plans to do, or how much money Raheem Stirling will be making, or how many more of FIFA's top brass have been indicted.:rolleyes:

And for Canada: Switzerland was the first European team they have ever beaten in this competition; and it's the first time they made it out of the group stage. And for those English fans who don't take us Canucks seriously unless we are wearing skates and carrying big sticks, Canada's last game before the competition began was a 1-0 victory against England in a friendly.:D

Margaret Pilkington 25-06-2015 13:43

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143350)
No problemo ... In India, there are hundreds of thousands of folks sitting by a phone, just waiting for your call;)

they are not sitting in the local branch of WHSmith.......which is where I was doing my gift buyig.......and when they get on the phone to me and tell me that their name is William Smith....I tell them that my name is Mahatma Gandhi!
They get short shrift too if I haven't rung them.

Michael1954 25-06-2015 14:17

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Invariably when I use a self-service, something goes wrong, and one of the staff has to come along with a swipe card to reset the screen.

cashman 25-06-2015 14:50

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 1143358)
Invariably when I use a self-service, something goes wrong, and one of the staff has to come along with a swipe card to reset the screen.

Thing is if yeh do use em, the machine cant tell if yer old enough to purchase wine, so yeh have to wait until someone is free to sort it out, faster? I dont think so.:rolleyes:

Michael1954 25-06-2015 15:13

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1143367)
Thing is if yeh do use em, the machine cant tell if yer old enough to purchase wine, so yeh have to wait until someone is free to sort it out, faster? I dont think so.:rolleyes:

You're right. It'd be quicker going to one of the Express check-outs. Funny thing is, the other week I was in Tesco Great Harwood, and the girl serving me was under 18, so she had to ask her supervisor for permission to serve me alcohol!

ossy kid 25-06-2015 20:04

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Germany V France and China V U.S.A. Friday then on Saturday Australia V Japan and England V Canada. Looks like a couple of busy days eh Eric. I fancy Germany V China, maybe that,s just a wish, for one semi final and Australia V doesn't matter in the other semi. I have to say I've been pleasantly surprised at the standard of play, the ladies have come a long way since the last time I watched a game.
If the U.S. don,t win the cup wait for the complaints on the pitches.

dotti34 26-06-2015 01:08

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Regarding women’s sporting achievements in most sports, whether team or individual, it is very annoying to listen to the condescending attitude of the (usually male) sports commentators. Some of the comments and the way they are delivered make me want to spew. It’s almost like ‘imagine women being able to do that’ attitude.

Also, the inequality of the pay system between women and their male counterparts is very unfair. I know the Matildas (the Australian women’s team) get a pittance when compared to the Socceroos (the Australian men’s team). Apparently this might be about to change – time will tell.

In the sporting arena so many participants (male and female) find it hard to get assistance on the way up and struggle to survive, the powers-that-be don’t seem to care, but once they achieve success, WOW! then everyone wants to get in on the act – they are feted as being ‘ours’.

OK, now I'll get off my soapbox.

yerself 26-06-2015 15:07

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Originally Posted by dotti 34
I know the Matildas (the Australian women’s team)

Shouldn't the Australian women's team be the Sheilas?

Margaret Pilkington 26-06-2015 17:12

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I think it probably comes from the old song 'Waltzing Matilda'......probably the term Sheila to mean a female, came much later....But I am happy to be educated if this is not so.

Eric 26-06-2015 20:02

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Well, tomorrow's the big day for Canada and England. There will be 55,000 at B.C. Place ... 54,999 of them cheering for Canada:D It could make it tough for the English girls; on the other hand, it might just inspire them. Whatever; let's hope for a good game.

Seems like the Germans are the team to beat. That's ok. The only time the Germans have beaten Canada at Germany's national sport was at Dieppe in 1942, and that was only because Canada's English manager came up with a lousy strategy.;)

Just crossed my mind: before the game starts the band will play both of Canada's National Anthems.:theband:

ossy kid 27-06-2015 23:24

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Just 10 mins to kick off and a "cool" 30deg in the stadium, going to be a scorcher, hope for a great game and may the best team win and let's hope the ref doesn't influence the result as she did in the Germany game.

Aussie Irene 28-06-2015 00:20

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Japan 1 Australia 0
Not this time Matildas, but you have made Australia proud.

Eric 28-06-2015 06:13

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And Canada lost to England. But the girls did great. And the competition helped bring attention to women's soccer.

Aussie Irene 28-06-2015 06:40

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143515)
And Canada lost to England. But the girls did great. And the competition helped bring attention to women's soccer.

Tough luck Eric, but in a sense we are still in it.
Japan is pretty good. But lets hope the Lionesses devour them.

Gremlin 28-06-2015 07:44

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Well done the girls.
Let's hope the men follow suite.
I'm very impressed with the lass's, they play proper football and it's not a joke anymore.
My condolences to Eric.

Eric 28-06-2015 17:06

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1143519)
Well done the girls.
Let's hope the men follow suite.
I'm very impressed with the lass's, they play proper football and it's not a joke anymore.
My condolences to Eric.

Sure, a victory would have been great; but we ain't like the Yanks for whom anything but first place is a defeat. The girls and the competition organizers put on a first class show. There's no shame in losing a hard-fought game to a good team. Hope to see England play in Van next weekend.:alright:

Gremlin 28-06-2015 17:15

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Spoken like a true sport enthusiast Eric.
It was a good game closely fought and somebody had to win.
There's no gloating from me mate.

ossy kid 28-06-2015 19:07

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A great game from both teams, pity somebody had to loose, Canada certainly gave England as much as they could handle, on chances they could have won but it's goals that count. I think I fancy England against Japan but it's going to be tough.

south aussie 01-07-2015 08:32

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Blatter shows his true colours by not attending the Womens World Cup final.

Michael1954 01-07-2015 09:48

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Originally Posted by south aussie (Post 1143753)
Blatter shows his true colours by not attending the Womens World Cup final.

Probably because they are not wearing tight shorts.



Soccer chief's plan to boost women's game? Hotpants | UK news | The Guardian

AccyMad 02-07-2015 09:08

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The England ladies team have done their country proud - such a shame to go out of the competition in that way, the poor lass who scored the o.g. must be devastated bless her

Margaret Pilkington 02-07-2015 09:51

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They have indeed...and it has raised the profile of the womens game and has shown how football should really be played.....honourably, honestly and fairly.

Gremlin 02-07-2015 21:35

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That poor lass who hit the OG must be absolutely devastated. I just hope the team supports her.
They proved a point though, they are not just a bunch of prancing cissies but a good well organised team. Better luck next time.

ossy kid 03-07-2015 01:44

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I don't think anyone suggested they were a bunch of prancing cissies Gremlin, everyone said how well the ladies game has improved, they played well and were desperately unlucky to lose like they did. Good luck to them against Germany on Saturday.

Eric 03-07-2015 03:11

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 1143880)
I don't think anyone suggested they were a bunch of prancing cissies Gremlin

I think he's talking about the Premier League and all the other major men's leagues.

Gremlin 03-07-2015 06:26

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1143882)
I think he's talking about the Premier League and all the other major men's leagues.

Correct.

ossy kid 03-07-2015 23:43

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Gee thanks Eric.??

Eric 04-07-2015 17:48

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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 1143919)
Gee thanks Eric.??

Yr welcome;)

AccyMad 04-07-2015 22:41

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Well done to the ladies, beating Germany & winning the bronze medal - we have an England team who can take penalties �� Congratulations to them well deserved

ossy kid 04-07-2015 23:06

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Agree, excellent game, both teams played hard, could have gone either way. A bit harsh on the penalty but what a great shot, the ref was a bit scarey but all's well in the end.
The ladies played great the whole tournament and deserved to go home with a medal, made us proud. Oh yes and well done Canada, a great show, well organized and not bad weather either!! Nearly forgot, there's another game tomorrow.

cashman 05-07-2015 08:01

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Well watched me first ever womens football match last night, Glad they won, but dont know what all the fuss is about.

AccyMad 05-07-2015 08:56

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At least you watched it Cashy, big step from your post on the first page of this thread when you said you weren't remotely interested :) - who knows, by the time the ladies compete in their next tournament you might be right there in the crowd waving your union jack & wearing your Fara Williams t.shirt :D

cashman 05-07-2015 09:06

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1143994)
At least you watched it Cashy, big step from your post on the first page of this thread when you said you weren't remotely interested :) - who knows, by the time the ladies compete in their next tournament you might be right there in the crowd waving your union jack & wearing your Fara Williams t.shirt :D

To be honest,only watched cos missus had gone to bed boiled, n sat nights telly is nowt to write home about.:D but thought they fought very hard fer the win, Germany to me were far more dangerous when they did go forward.;)


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