Bl....y Speed Bumps!!!!!
 

They may call them the gas guzzlers of the road, but the amount of speed bumps they are putting down is getting beyound a joke, give me a 4+4 anytime. just came along queens road west and what they doin putting more bl....y lumps in the road,do the council not think that the roads are in such bad repair that we dont need anymore lumps to slow us down.come on H.B.C give us a break.

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I live on queens road west and think the speed bumps are a good idea. You get a lot of speeding on there so surely any thing that helps motorist to slow down has to be a good thing.

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SURELY Janet they cant be doing anybodys car any good, as for the need for speed boy racers, you will never stop them! its the innocent that end up getting hurt.

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Last year my daughter was almost killed crossing Queen's Road West on her way to school.

The car driver who ran over her (and that is ''ran over'' as opposed to ''knocked down'') claimed to have been doing only 20mph but I find that difficult to believe considering she was dragged along the road under the car and was crushed under the wheels when the vehicle (a 4x4) finally stopped. I really would love to know if the injuries could have been caused by a vehicle travelling at 20mph. (I remember ads on TV showing what happens at 30mph, 20mph etc and I'm sure the 20mph option the child is only pushed along the road in front of the car)

Requests were sent to HBC for a pelican crossing in the vicinity of the school gates (Moorhead and St. Christophers) but HBC's answer at the time was that they were looking into traffic calming measures which they felt were all that was required.

Presumably the humps in question are the traffic calming measures they referred to. If the driver was only doing 20mph I fail to see how traffic calming measures are going to make any difference, but I would hate to see any other child injured as badly or even killed on there.

We still haven't got the full story of what happened that day as my daughter cannot remember, the police will not take statements from children and adult witnesses are not willing to comment which is very frustrating.

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Plain & Simply Janet,

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The car driver who ran over her (and that is ''ran over'' as opposed to ''knocked down'') claimed to have been doing only 20mph but I find that difficult to believe considering she was dragged along the road under the car and was crushed under the wheels when the vehicle (a 4x4) finally stopped. I really would love to know if the injuries could have been caused by a vehicle travelling at 20mph. (I remember ads on TV showing what happens at 30mph, 20mph etc and I'm sure the 20mph option the child is only pushed along the road in front of the car)


:( (sorry about your daughter willow!!) but when an accident occured outside the pub a traffic officer got in the car and actually measured whilst in the car the length of the skid mark on the road and thus was able to work out the speed the driver was doing.

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I was under the impression they always did that but apparently on this occasion they didn't.

At the time I was far more concerned about what was happening in the hospital than what was happening at the scene of the accident and just assumed that the police were doing their duty.

It was ages before a police officer even spoke to me. And when I finally made contact ( i had to make a concerted effort myself to get in touch with them) I felt very "fobbed off" so I asked a firm of solicitors to look into it for me. We are still awaiting the police report. Apparently the officer who attended the scene asked for his original report to be returned to him. I find that very odd too.

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Is it still on going then willow,they seem to be taking there time! if the solicitors are involved get them rung up and tell them you want some answers.

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Don't expect any answers any time soon.

I came off my motorbike just over a year ago - there are at least 2 witness reports to say that it wasnt my fault, but it is still not resolved.

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I'm not holding my breath.

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I agree with you Janet, anything that slows motorists down is a good idea, surely Less you must agree that there is a need to drive more slowly or is it just speed humps you are against?

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Putting bumps in is not the answer. Educating people is what is required. They always say treat the cause not the symptoms. Bumps do nothing to stop the speeders as they will just find a new rat run to terrorise. At least on the main roads there is decent visibility. On the back roads with double parked cars the chance for a kiddie to see them coming is non existant. Confiscate cars for a period( 4-12 weeks) from people speeding above a certain limit. Give out short term bans( 1 week or so) for those just over the limits. Once people realise how slow and inconvienient public transport is they will be glad to travel at 30 at a time of their choosing. This Gov say they want to do something about this problem but they are too scared to put a punishment that would have the desired effect.

And before anyone asks, I travel over 30K a year in my car and ride a 1000cc motorcycle as well so I'm not some non motorised fanatic.

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I have a more permanent solution.

If a motorist kills someone through speeding, shoot them in the head. If it was one of my family that they killed, I would do it myself.

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Speeding doesn't always cause death.

One of the problems on QRW is the bend in the road. Something travelling quickly can be hidden round the bend and the road appear totally clear when one starts to cross near Moorhead. If a car is travelling at a reasonable speed you can be across the road before it arrives from round the bend but if it's going fast that's a different story.

I do think a crossing would be more use than road humps. There are road humps in Ormerod Street which doesn't stop idiots trying to speed up and down it, not to mention the screeching of breaks as they pull straight out into Willows Lane, where others ignoring the mini roundabout still act as though they automatically have right of way.

I'm amazed there hasn't been a death there yet. There have been plenty of "bumps"

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Maybe a speed camera instead would be the solution

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All speed humps do is cause extra wear & tear on the vehicles, people that drive sensibly do so wether there are speed humps or not, the people that don't drive sensibly just look on the humps as a challenge to get over as quickly as possible. A similar outcome can be seen on Charter street where the chichanes were introdruced, before them people would drive carefully between the two rows of parked cars and would politely give way if necessary to other road users, now, as well as losing several car parking spaces (causing greater congestion), often people are seen racing for the gaps playing 'chicken' with each other just to try & get through first.

Traffic calming? It now looks like the traffic is having a nervous break-down!

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In a similar vein there's a stupid "peninsula" at the top of Ormerod Street on the corner. If you are coming up Willows Lane and turn into Ormerod Street there's this stupid lump of pavement jutting out immediately round the corner prior to the bus stop which has the effect of forcing you into the opposite lane and face to face with anything which might be coming uphill. I cannot for the life of me see how that is a safety measure as it causes potential head-on collisions.

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Take a look at the roads that have generously been given speed humps etc. by some form of EEC grant I believe, all that lovely tarmac in one lump & the road itself absolutely worn out! Most of the grip for slowing vehicles down is given by a well maintained road surface, but rather than improve the quality of ALL the road these lumps appear & cause excessive wear & tear to the remaining untouched road that should have been repaired years ago!

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A classic example of that is Richmond Rd. You'd have thought it already had speed bumps on it the state it was in. Travelling along there was like riding a switchback.

One day we saw men with tarmac and we were naive enough to think that they were filling up the holes and levelling it off.

Far from it. They were adding "traffic calming measures" consisting of aforementioned peninsulas but worse than that these sort of extended speed humps which are neither one thing nor another but extend the full width of the road junctions.

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Perhaps when you consider the cost each year to motorists the insurance companies should add a little section to the claim form along the lines of & what was the condition of the road surface? Then if as I suspect would often be the case, the answer was in ill-repair the insurance company could take the local authority to court for some of the liability caused by their bad maintenence or design!

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Going back to willows daughters accident, i agree that people travel too fast on queens road west. It's a very wide road and people sem to want to go faster on wider roads, i find i do it myself. But as for placing speed humps on the road, lets just say the same happened again, god forbid!! how much would those speed humps slow down the emergency services??

There is a county in the south, which at the moment slips my mind, that proved that speed humps had actually slowed emergency services enough in some cases from getting to places in time to save lives.
So there not all good..

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dill hall lane another fine example!!!!!!! put in parking bays but people still park on either side, they do not work!!

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I think I'll mention this point to my solicitor next time. I still say the only sensible solution on Queens Road West is a pelican crossing.

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Now THAT makes sense!
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