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woody 03-11-2005 12:19

Greatest American musician(s)??
 
Who's it gonna be? Dylan, Cash or Presley??

Doug 03-11-2005 12:59

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Now this I find difficult, I like them all………The problem with this choice is that they are all the same in the cultural context of there musical background, but play, sound and resonate differently to their followers…..Bu**er I what to say Johnny cash, I hear Dylan in my mind and Elvis Presley “I met is Cousin three weeks ago” was at the top of is particular brand of music…….

It’s Johnny cash, No it’s Dylan……… Sorry folks it is Johnny Cash. I hope that didn’t “Hurt”

woody 03-11-2005 15:22

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psst (hurt is a nine inch nails song covered by cash)

Doug 03-11-2005 17:04

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
I refer you to my previous post else where on this forum..........

woody 03-11-2005 17:50

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
who the do you think you are?
referring me 'elsewhere'
pull yer head out of yer own jacksy and smell the coffee

Doug 03-11-2005 18:06

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Yes woody, its rich roast actually…………..:)

Gayle 03-11-2005 18:12

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Woody, I realise you've arrived on this site and you want to make an impression but to stick around you're really going to have to learn to appreciate irony!

woody 03-11-2005 18:19

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
i dont have to prove anything to you , and i am most certainly not 'out to stay around'
i will say what i want - you say what you want, and we'll get along fine - just dont compare Cliff to The Beatles again :)haha

grannyclaret 03-11-2005 23:31

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
i have voted for elvis ...the one and only king...
but hey,, i loved the man in black.. with his sexy ,sultry .voice ..
dillon is just average in my opinion

woody 03-11-2005 23:49

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
i think rock n roll would be lyrically lost if Dylan wasnt on the scene - he definately aint the best musician but his lyrics are unrivalled in my opinion

...just listen to his first album; 'Song to Woody', :D

cashman 04-11-2005 12:36

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voted for elvis - but dylans the man for a differant sphere,saw him in the late 60s,brilliant artist, but not everyones looking for a message with their music.

mez 04-11-2005 12:41

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johnny cash a definite for me .............not an elvis fan never was, & i like some of bob dylans music/songs too

woody 04-11-2005 12:53

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WANTED: MORE DYLAN FANS!!!!



(cash was a legend though, always will be, RIP man in black!)

ANNE 04-11-2005 21:33

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
I voted Elvis. No hesitation.
I do like Johnny Cash though.
Woody Cliff is every bit has good has the Beatles.
Elvis No 1 Singer.
Beatles No 1 Band.
Cliff Richard up there with Elvis.

woody 04-11-2005 21:38

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ANNE
Woody Cliff is every bit has good has the Beatles.

....in your opinion.....

Graham Jones 06-11-2005 22:37

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Elvis wasn't a musician, his songs were written for him otherwise I would have voted for him. I don't like Dylan. I do like Buddy Holly. Probably Buddy Holly.

SPUGGIE J 06-11-2005 23:11

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Had to take BD as ther was no haevy metal abnds in the poll.

woody 06-11-2005 23:50

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heavy metal wouldnt be around if it wasnt for artists like Dylan and Cash

WillowTheWhisp 07-11-2005 09:04

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
A choice of 3 is very limiting. Heavy metal may not have existed if it were not for Bob Dylan & Johnny Cash? By the same token they may not have been around were it not for earlier musicians. It's a process of evolution.

If it's lyrics you go for then take a look at some of the things written by Chris Simpson (do I hear you ask "Who?") particularly in view of your comments elsewhere the irony in a song called "Isn't it funny?" Not that he's American.

Out if the three you list I'd have to go for Dylan.

woody 07-11-2005 09:22

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fair enough!
of course i hadnt heard of Chris Simpson; but i must suggest that you probably wouldnt have a clue who an artist of my generations is?!
ie Richard Ashcroft? (the man's lyrics changed my life), Graham Coxon? Dave Grohl?

WillowTheWhisp 07-11-2005 09:45

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Richard Ashcroft -

There’s nothing really wrong with the state of your ambition
The whole world is crumbling
Cos your crazy vision
All wars are boys and death is what you hate most

Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size

It’s a crazy world
For a mixed up boy and a mixed up girl
It’s a crazy world
For a mixed up boy and a mixed up girl


So you got no god
You got no love
To tell me of

But you’ve got that spirit
So please stick with it
This world wouldn’t be
A world without you in it

Please shelter me
Please shelter me
I found this crazy world

It’s chewing on my brain like a desert train locus
I find it hard to love I find it hard to focus
The whole world is crumbling
Cos their crazy visions

Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size
Come on baby
Don’t you want to get a new size

It’s a crazy world
For a mixed up boy and a mixed up girl
It’s a crazy world
For a mixed up boy and a mixed up girl

So you got no god
You got no love
To tell me off

You got to keep your spirit
you stick with it
There ain’t a world without you in it
you stick with it

So you got no god
You got no love
To tell me of


Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me
Shelter me


That the type of thing you mean woody?

woody 07-11-2005 09:49

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ok ok he did do some pretty shocking stuff lol

the lyrics i was highlighting were the ones form the verve's album 'urban hymns', ie Lucky Man, Sonnet, The Drugs Dont Work and of course Bitter Sweet Symphony

WillowTheWhisp 07-11-2005 10:11

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Lol, well funnily enough "The Drugs Don't Work" is one of my own personal favourites but then I listen to all kinds of stuff.

The Simpson lyric I find most appropriate at present is:

"I told a clean cut political man
I can change the world I can.
Oh no said he,
I let the world change me."

You mentioned somewhere else about us old fogies not understanding what it's like to be 16 or maybe we can't remember. I think the truth is probably more that we can remember. We can remember exactly what it was like to feel like we knew all the answers and could see where all the old uns were going wrong.

Some of us even had the added bonus of living our teenage years in the optimistic days of flower-power, peace, love-ins, sit-ins and all that bunk. We "knew" we were at the dawning of the Age of Aquarius and we were going to be the generation that made everything groovy.

But later experience of life brings with it the realism and that is often followed by cynicism if we aren't careful.

It isn't that we don't want the changes. We just find out how easy it isn't (hence the lyric quoted). So we have the choice of either going with the flow or fighting a harder battle and sometimes settling for a lot less than our dreams. Don't imagine that it means we never dreamed, and don't think that because we don't always acheive much that we have given up the fight.

(Apologies for thread-wander)

woody 07-11-2005 10:43

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great points and thank you.....but i must admit the 'resident waffler' under your name is very apt lol
i supose for me its just going to be a huge resistance against 'going with the flow' until i drive myself crazy and settle with a desk job and shut my trap lol
dontya just love realising the inevitable haha

shakermaker 08-11-2005 13:07

Re: Greatest American musician(s)??
 
voted for cash....basically because i'v been listening to a wide range of his stuff recently and it is absolutely fantastic...still relative today

Bad-Wolf 29-11-2005 08:35

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Paul Simon should be on the list.


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